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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Alltel / July 2003What cities is Alltel in?
This is one carrier I've never heard of? It was Tue, 01 Jul 2003 22:51:32 -0700, and bg <bg@sd.com> wrote in alt.cellular.alltel: | This is one carrier I've never heard of? http://www.alltel.com/ Alltel's is #7 in the nation (has been for several years). JL It depends on where you are at....I am in eastern NC and Alltel has coverage basically in all the major cities. Chekotay > This is one carrier I've never heard of? >This is one carrier I've never heard of? Alltel is big throughout the state of Florida. Al in Jacksonville Beach, Florida Forum for Florida Road Warriors at http://www.wireless-florida.com Forum for Nextel Users at http://www.nextel-user.com ALLTEL has offices in Florida, Michigan, South Carolina, North Carolina, Ohio, Arkansas, Louisiana, Arizona, and a slew of other states. We have roaming arrangements with other major carriers to provide a large national footprint as well as a "no roaming/coverage everywhere" plan. bg <bg@sd.com> wrote in article <3F0272E4.BAE59694@sd.com>: > This is one carrier I've never heard of? I'm a Verizon customer, anxiously awaiting number portability. Verizon HAD in-market roaming over to Sprint PCS first, then Alltel on a tri-mode phone. But, quietly without notifying the customers, that roaming was deleted from all PRLs in all plans a year or two ago. The phones now say NO SERVICE in the holes in Verizon's coverage in their own markets, even though you can see the Sprint or Alltel tower from where you're standing. It sucks. FCC should do a broadcast-style "Proof of Performance" test on every carrier, every year, to ensure they are providing smooth coverage over their licensed area, handing out fines and forcing them to buy the necessary resources from other carriers until they are in compliance. The "build-out-excuse" time is well past for all carriers, especially old 800 Mhz carriers on the air for 20 years. Failure to comply simply results in failure to renew their licenses. It's NOT "their" airwaves, you know. After being a customer in Charleston, SC, since the 2nd Cellular One tower was installed and I gave up my beloved IMTS mobile phone spending thousands and thousands of dollars on airtime and equipment since cellular's introduction, I'm ready to take my number and churn, soon that I can. QUESTION - Does Alltel permit CDMA roaming to other carriers INSIDE its licensed coverage area in Eastern SC when Alltel's system fails to provide service to its customers? If the answer is yes, there is absolutely no reason to stay with Verizon Wireless after the number portability shenanegans it has flip-flopped on becomes a reality. I don't care which provider I use for my telephone service. I do care, and have put up with a lot, to keep my number thousands of my customers know by heart. Number portability will give me the opportunity to find something that's better for me. If Alltel will provide service in Charleston, SC, AND allow roaming into Sprint PCS and Verizon Wireless where IT fails to provide service, there is no downside to churning to Alltel, whatsoever. As Verizon's system is larger, if Alltel refuses to in-market roam in holes in its coverage, there is no reason to switch because Verizon DOES have a larger, more extensive system. >ALLTEL has offices in Florida, Michigan, South Carolina, North Carolina, >Ohio, Arkansas, Louisiana, Arizona, and a slew of other states. We have [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >[posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups] Larry Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe. You can tell because they never tried to contact us. My family and I were visiting Charleston, SC a couple of weeks ago, Alltel phones, always had a good signal. Pretty much from the water to Goose Creek, never had any trouble using Alltel. Same thing goes for Savannah, it worked fine there too. I don't remember what kind of coverage we got in Yemassee/Beaufort though. I don't recall any trouble. > I'm a Verizon customer, anxiously awaiting number portability. > Verizon HAD in-market roaming over to Sprint PCS first, then Alltel on [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe. > You can tell because they never tried to contact us. Alltel also blocks access to Sprint, US Cellular, Verizon and other small CDMA carriers in some markets. I believe your area is tightly controlled by Alltel's PRL to use only Alltel. For specific answers for your home area, go to: http://www.justalurker.com/00603.html Find the group of SID's for your area and note the ones that are marked NEG. The PRL will not use these (NEG) carriers even if their signal is strong and Alltel's is absent. Your phone will simply say "no service". In fairness to Verizon, they have removed some other carriers SID's from their PRL, but none are marked negative. Most Verizon phones can be manually switched to A or B band to find a carrier when service is not available through the PRL. I'd rather be able to make a call and pay roaming than not be able to make the call at all. royc > I'm a Verizon customer, anxiously awaiting number portability. > Verizon HAD in-market roaming over to Sprint PCS first, then Alltel on [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > in-market roam in holes in its coverage, there is no reason to switch > because Verizon DOES have a larger, more extensive system. It was 3 Jul 2003 20:20:30 -0700, and clouston@sprynet.com (royc) wrote in alt.cellular.alltel: | Alltel also blocks access to Sprint, US Cellular, Verizon | and other small CDMA carriers in some markets. ... | Find the group of SID's for your area and note the ones | that are marked NEG. To be fair, marking a PCS system as NEG has the same basic effect as not including it at all. If a PCS system is not in the PRL, your phone won't find it and (unless one sets up the phone specifically for that system) can't use it. There are a lot of cellular SIDs marked NEG. In Larry's Charleston area the preferences are: AllTel's Own Systems (equally preferred): 01652, 00156, 03226, 00350, 00116, 00182, 01640, 01650, 00114, 00578, 01540, 00100, 00376, 01542, 01544, 01536, 01532, 01534, 02038, 01538, 01528, 00144, 00142, 01530, 00368, 01546, 00074 Verizon Wireless (in this GEO): 00179, 00093 *** THE REST ARE MARKED NEG *** NEG PCS carriers: 05386, 05586, 05618, 04395, 04857, 04693, 04381 plus 04376 SprintPCS - Charlotte NC NEG Cellular Carriers: Triton PCS License Company LLC 01645 United States Cellular Corporation 00599, 01541, 00393 Western Wireless 01643 Verizon Wireless 00069, 00095, 00299, 00349, 02115, 00189, 00127, 00377 So I suppose that's the answer to Larry's question: | QUESTION - Does Alltel permit CDMA roaming to other | carriers INSIDE its licensed coverage area in Eastern | SC when Alltel's system fails to provide service to | its customers? No. Larry's favorite SPCS is out, plus other systems. JL Thanks Lurk. 00127 is the Charleston Verizon system so they are blocking roaming just like Verizon is.......dammit. Lied to again...... >It was 3 Jul 2003 20:20:30 -0700, and clouston@sprynet.com > (royc) wrote in alt.cellular.alltel: [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > >JL Larry Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe. You can tell because they never tried to contact us. It was Fri, 04 Jul 2003 16:18:33 GMT, and nospam@home.com (Larry) wrote in alt.cellular.alltel: | Thanks Lurk. 00127 is the Charleston Verizon system so | they are blocking roaming just like Verizon is....... No, Verizon isn't blocking Alltel's system, they are just not including it. There is a difference. Not including the system allows for it to be used absolutely last. Marking it NEG (as Alltel did with VZW's 00127) means no use even if it were the last SID on earth. | Lied to again...... Really? When did Alltel tell you you could roam on VZW 00127 in the Charleston area? JL >Really? When did Alltel tell you you could roam on VZW 00127 >in the Charleston area? > >JL Yes, they did.....a sales wienie 73 de Larry W4CharlestonSC RF radiation hazards since 1957... Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, you can't force the Verizon V60i to STAY in a working system so you can RECEIVE calls when Verizon's service is useless. I still say all carriers should be subjected to yearly "proof of performance" testing in their licensed areas and given notification by FCC of the deficiencies and given a reasonable, but not infinite, time to correct these deficiencies. During the rectification period, they should be forced to buy airtime on other carriers for their screwed customers to use until they can come into compliance. It's way past time for the damned FCC to start DOING ITS JOB for the customers who pay their salaries. >Alltel also blocks access to Sprint, US Cellular, Verizon and other >small CDMA carriers in some markets. I believe your area is tightly [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] >> in-market roam in holes in its coverage, there is no reason to switch >> because Verizon DOES have a larger, more extensive system. Larry Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe. You can tell because they never tried to contact us. you can check out their coverage maps as well as the coverage maps of most other major service providers at www.cooltechgear.com Sincerely, Webmasters @ www.cooltechgear.com > This is one carrier I've never heard of? Your section on AMPS service is laughably inacurate. AMPS is more reliable than digital. It works when your cheap "camera phone" says "NO SERVICE." .6 watt is no match for 3 watts. Nice try though, it was very entertaining. > you can check out their coverage maps as well as the coverage maps of most > other major service providers at www.cooltechgear.com [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > This is one carrier I've never heard of? Enjoy it while it lasts in your area. Service providers are eliminating it, making it's coverage laughable now. You can still use it in rural areas where service providers don't wish to invest money into upgrading their towers, but in many metro areas, you will find yourself unable to place a call on an analog-only phone. Sincerely, Webmasters @ www.cooltechgear.com > Your section on AMPS service is laughably inacurate. AMPS is more reliable > than digital. It works when your cheap "camera phone" says "NO SERVICE." [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > > > This is one carrier I've never heard of? No, I'm pretty sure that the FCC says they have to continue offering it until at least 2008. Sorry. > Enjoy it while it lasts in your area. Service providers are eliminating it, > making it's coverage laughable now. You can still use it in rural areas [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > > > > > > This is one carrier I've never heard of? |
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