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SC/NC/VA roaming SIDs

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GeorgeB - 24 Nov 2004 20:07 GMT
I drove from Greenville SC to Waynesboro VA and back,
Alltel, with PRL 1204.  This was an I-85/I-77/I-81/I-64 trip.  I never
lost coverage at any time.

SID, from-to, SID Owner
116, Greenville SC to Gaffney SC, Alltel-Greenville
114, Gaffney to I77 NC mile 45, Alltel-Charlotte
1546, I77 NC mile 46 to I77 NC mile 74, Alltel-Statesville
142, I77 NC mile 74 to I77 NC mile 81, Alltel-Greensboro
1522, I77 NC mile 81 to I77 VA mile 2, Carolina West
Wireless-Wilkseboro
502, I77 VA mile 2 to I77 VA mile 22, Verizon-Roanoke
74, I77 VA mile 22 to I81 VA mile 84, Alltel-TriCities TN
502, I81 VA mile 84 to destination, Verizon-Roanoke

I'd like to know what SID Verizon subscribers get for that portion
of I77 that Alltel roams (solid) on Carolina West.

Very interesting occurence, 3rd time, 3rd visit, 3 different PRLs.
My phone, in Waynesboro, turns itself off ... signal strength is
ok, 2-3 bars, digital.  This is the only place this has ever
happened.  Phone is a Motorola Startac 7868W.  Battery was full.
royc - 25 Nov 2004 04:11 GMT
[snip]

> Very interesting occurence, 3rd time, 3rd visit, 3 different PRLs.
> My phone, in Waynesboro, turns itself off ... signal strength is
> ok, 2-3 bars, digital.  This is the only place this has ever
> happened.  Phone is a Motorola Startac 7868W.  Battery was full.

What version of software does your StarTAC have?
(Main Menu, Phone Options, Phone Info, Software)

My StarTAC turned itself off several times during a visit to
southwestern MA this past March.  I was on Verizon SID 119 inside a
metal building where signal conditions were very poor.

More often in about the last year or so I have noticed my StarTAC
rebooting occasionally, and it's almost always in a Verizon area.  I
also know of one place where Sprint changes from a partner's system to
their own system that my phone will also reboot everytime (in that one
location).  I wonder if it was an unintended effect from the CDMA 2000
(1X) upgrade on certain base stations.

The reboots happen rarely in Pittsburgh (maybe once a day) and
Columbus, OH (very seldom).  This summer I traveled in western New
York and spent several days at Niagara Falls.  I don't remember any
reboots during that trip.  I was in the Dallas area last week. The
phone rebooted inside the plane right after I turned it on after the
plane landed and we were taxiing to the gate.  The phone never
rebooted again while I was in Dallas (about a day).  It's never
rebooted while I was at the Atlanta airport.

I've been to Baytown, TX twice this fall.  In the vicinity of the
Garth Road exit along I-10, my phone reboots every few minutes.  I can
still make a call, but the constant rebooting makes receiving an
incoming call difficult.

During my first Baytown trip, as an experiment I switched my phone to
NAM 2, set the SID for the home system to 12 (Verizon, Houston) and
set the phone to "home only".  It worked flawlessly thereafter on NAM
2.  I was back again last week and the same thing happened (reboot).
Switching to NAM 2 made the phone stable.

I have suspected that software version 7659 is to blame for this
behavior.  Alltel was the only carrier to use 7659 software, to my
knowledge.  I have not heard Verizon StarTAC owners complaining of
power-off's or reboots.  I know Verizon's last software for the
StarTAC was 7654.  Alltel released version 7659 in the summer of 2002
to make the StarTAC hang on to a digital signal longer before
switching to analog.  I think they tweaked some setting too far for
optimum stability, but the tweaking was only done to NAM 1 settings.
It looks like NAM 2 through 4 were left at earlier defaults.

I've toyed with the idea of trying to load a PRL into NAM 2 (there is
no PRL on NAM 2, 3 and 4)and see how the phone operates.  But if I
successfully do that, I would loose the manual control I now have with
NAM 2.  Of course there's always NAM 3 and 4 if I botch up NAM 2.  If
anyone else has had experiences with these issues, I'd like to hear
about it.

royc
GeorgeB - 25 Nov 2004 13:22 GMT
>[snip] [more by george]
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>
>What version of software does your StarTAC have?

7654, sorry

>My StarTAC turned itself off several times during a visit to
>southwestern MA this past March.  I was on Verizon SID 119 inside a
>metal building where signal conditions were very poor.

It is possible that I got into a really weak spot, but I carried on
several conversations while there.  However, it is not unusual for me
to get into an area where it goes to "sleep" when it cannot find
anything, even analog.  THAT I would understand; powering off I don't.

>More often in about the last year or so I have noticed my StarTAC
>rebooting occasionally, and it's almost always in a Verizon area.

I've never seen mine rebooting, but I'm not sure how it would look,
especially if on my hip.

>The reboots happen rarely in Pittsburgh (maybe once a day)

wow, I wouldn't call once a day "rarely" ... but I typically power
mine off every night, so it MIGHT do that if left on.

>I have suspected that software version 7659 is to blame for this
>behavior.  Alltel was the only carrier to use 7659 software, to my
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>to make the StarTAC hang on to a digital signal longer before
>switching to analog.

Mine was flashed to 7654 in November of 2001 ...
royc - 25 Nov 2004 21:14 GMT
[snip]

> >What version of software does your StarTAC have?
>
> 7654, sorry

No need to apologize.  If you aren't seeing any reboots, that still
kind of points to 7659 as my problem.

> It is possible that I got into a really weak spot, but I carried on
> several conversations while there.  However, it is not unusual for me
> to get into an area where it goes to "sleep" when it cannot find
> anything, even analog.  THAT I would understand; powering off I don't.

If my phone completely loses a signal it will display "Power Save"
while it goes to sleep for 2 minutes.  Then it will scan again for a
signal.


> I've never seen mine rebooting, but I'm not sure how it would look,
> especially if on my hip.

If you are watching the display, it will suddenly blank out for a
couple of seconds, then go through the usual startup routine (Alltel
logo, etc.).  I have the service tones enabled, so I hear the
beep-beep from that even if it's on my belt.  Incidentally, it's not
just this one phone.  I carry a spare StarTAC with me when I travel.
While I was in Baytown, I turned on the spare (also 7659 software) and
it behaved the same way (reboots on NAM 1).

royc
Stanley Cline - 26 Nov 2004 12:43 GMT
>I'd like to know what SID Verizon subscribers get for that portion
>of I77 that Alltel roams (solid) on Carolina West.

The same one...1522

-SC
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