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What will happen to TDMA customers???

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SpiceBall - 13 Apr 2004 18:06 GMT
I am not going to make the move to GSM, mostly because I am happy with
TDMA and AT&T wants to charge me a lot and make me sign a 2 year
contract.  So my question is what is going to happen to the TDMA
customers on month to month?

Do they have the right to cancel you if you are on Month 2 Month?  Or
will they eventually just make it more attractive for you to go GSM?

Thanks
Robert M. - 13 Apr 2004 18:08 GMT
> I am not going to make the move to GSM, mostly because I am happy with
> TDMA and AT&T wants to charge me a lot and make me sign a 2 year
> contract.  So my question is what is going to happen to the TDMA
> customers on month to month?

Over time TDMA coverage and service will degrade. After a while
you won't want to stay with TDMA.

> Do they have the right to cancel you if you are on Month 2 Month?  Or
> will they eventually just make it more attractive for you to go GSM?
Paul Cardoza - 13 Apr 2004 23:18 GMT
>I am not going to make the move to GSM, mostly because I am happy with
>TDMA and AT&T wants to charge me a lot and make me sign a 2 year
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>
>Thanks

If you're happy with TDMA, you'll be able to stay with it for many
years to come.   However.........   The GSM plans offered now are much
cheaper and contain many more minutes and promos compared to plans of
several years ago.   What plan are you on that offers more value than
you can have today?   And........   AT&T will offer you a one year
contract to convert if you wish.  

My bottom line is that if GSM coverage in areas you frequent is
decent, there is no reason not to change today.
Robert M. - 14 Apr 2004 01:04 GMT
> My bottom line is that if GSM coverage in areas you frequent is
> decent, there is no reason not to change today.

If you never have to roam in an Analog (AMPS) area.
SpiceBall - 14 Apr 2004 04:00 GMT
I have $35 for 500 Min + N/W Nationwide Network.  N/W starting at 9
PM.

They offered me t616 for $199 + 1 year contract or $9.99 for 2 year
contract.
The 39.99 plan for Nationwide is 650 min + N/W.  No major difference
to me because I only use 500 minutes.  I really wanted 7 PM N/W but
can't get that because I don't want to move up to $59.99

I'd take it for $9.99 and 1 year contract.  But I refuse to sign a 2
year contract because it's more important for me to have a new phone
and be able to switch to carriers with better deals than be locked
into one carrier.

I'd rather switch to T-mobile for 1 year and switch back to AT&T 1
year later if necessary since that time I'd be considered a new
customer again and get the 1 year contract new customer deals.  I can
get the t610 for free with T mobile and get 1000 + N/W from them. I
will likely do that or keep TDMA coverage.  I have to see how T-mobile
works in my apartment, if it works, then I will port my number to
T-mobile. I live in downtown Philly so all carriers give me good
signal.  I travel to major cities (NYC, Houston, LA)

AT&T offered me no deal to sign another 1 year contract with TDMA, so
they may be phasing this out. I would happily sign 1 year again if I
can get at least 8 PM N/W

I don't use data, I only use my phone for voice. So if you see another
solution let me know!

> >I am not going to make the move to GSM, mostly because I am happy with
> >TDMA and AT&T wants to charge me a lot and make me sign a 2 year
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> My bottom line is that if GSM coverage in areas you frequent is
> decent, there is no reason not to change today.
Todd Allcock - 14 Apr 2004 05:18 GMT
> If you're happy with TDMA, you'll be able to stay with it for many
> years to come.   However.........   The GSM plans offered now are much
> cheaper and contain many more minutes and promos compared to plans of
> several years ago.   What plan are you on that offers more value than
> you can have today?

Define value.  Perhaps the value of TDMA to the OP is the knowledge
that his phone will work virtually everywhere there's cell service.
AT&T (and Cingular) are doing dandy jobs of converting their entire
coverage areas to GSM, but they also partner with various smaller
companies nationwide to offer nnationwide service.  Not all of these
partners may be converting as quickly, if at all.

> My bottom line is that if GSM coverage in areas you frequent is
> decent, there is no reason not to change today.

AT&T GSM has no equivalent to DOR, do they?

(I'm not knocking GSM, by the way- I'm a T-Mo customer.  But I do
carry a CallPlus prepaid TDMA/analog phone in the glovebox as a backup
because it's cheap $3/month "insurance" that I'll have service
virtually anywhere I'll go.)
Dan Albrich - 14 Apr 2004 06:45 GMT
What plan are you on that offers more value than
you can have today?
--> How about a location that requires an external antenna (i.e. there is
good support for Nokia 5160/6160 with external antenna connection), coupled
with 600 peak minutes, nationwide long distance, no roaming in local two
state area (OR/WA) unlimited nights and weekends at 8pm for $39.99.

This is at Oregon coast where even TDMA coverage is spotty at best, and I
sincerely doubt GSM would do better.  I could see it having equal coverage
once they migrate folks from 1900 to 850Mhz but I don't know how far that
has come.

-Dan
ben skversky - 14 Apr 2004 19:19 GMT
What exactly is the difference between GSM & TDMA?

> I am not going to make the move to GSM, mostly because I am happy with
> TDMA and AT&T wants to charge me a lot and make me sign a 2 year
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>
> Thanks
yeltrabnhoj@email.com - 15 Apr 2004 17:50 GMT
>What exactly is the difference between GSM & TDMA?

The differences are too numerous to mention here.

Both use digital transmission using time division multiplexing.  However,
'GSM' is the Euro standard. TDMA has no one pushing it,, and although it's
a decent system, it's largest provider, ATT Witless, offered a crippled
implementation without data service (unlike other smaller carriers who knew
what they wer edoing, e.g., Rogers).

Data is key to revenue growth, so ATTWS suffered. Finally, new management
decided they would offer GSM side by side with TDMA.  Their GSM service
still is not offering coverage as good as the TDMA side in my area.

However, the value of a networking (networking used in the telephony sense
here) is how many connections it can make, so TDMA with its dwindling user
base is less and less useful when compared to what GSM can do, that folks
are switching.

Phone makers are focusing on GSM and CDMA 2000 phones, and TDMA is being
left behind in the dust.

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