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New ATTWS phone reports "SIM card registration failed"

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MikeJ - 26 Apr 2004 16:55 GMT
Greetings;

On friday, I decided to take advantage of the "Upgrade your phone"
option on the ATTWS Online Customer Service section of ATT's site.

I was originally on a TDMA plan, but the site offered GSM phones as
well, which is what I chose to go to (a Nokia 6800).

The site checked my eligability for changing the account from TDMA to
GSM (at least it said it did) and I selected the phone and placed the
order.

The phone arrived today. The nokia box had a sticker with my name, and
my mobile number on it.

However, with the SIM card installed, when I power up the phone it
says the SIM card registration failed.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to contact customer service for a
couple days due to my work schedule, otherwise I wouldn't be posting
this message. :)

The ATTWS site currently does not show the new phone and plan under my
account.

My question is, am I still waiting on ATTWS to do something, or did
something get screwed up along the way? Perhaps the phone arrived
earlier than it should, and ATTWS hasn't run the changes yet?

Thanks for any info.
Robert M. - 26 Apr 2004 18:43 GMT
> Greetings;
>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Thanks for any info.

No, At&t starts the meter running on your account the day they stick the
SIM card in the phone for you, BEFORE you receive it.

Good luck getting this straightened out. Sounds like their Convergys GSM
software is still problematic.
Eddie Haskel - 27 Apr 2004 03:09 GMT
I would bet you don't have a GSM signal from AT&TWorthless in your area. #1
reason for SIM card registration failures....Eddie

> > Greetings;
> >
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> Good luck getting this straightened out. Sounds like their Convergys GSM
> software is still problematic.
Mike Cook - 27 Apr 2004 15:06 GMT
I have a good GSM signal in my area and I got that error until AT&T
activated the phone.  It happens because you have not yet called to have the
phone activated.

> I would bet you don't have a GSM signal from AT&TWorthless in your area. #1
> reason for SIM card registration failures....Eddie
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> > Good luck getting this straightened out. Sounds like their Convergys GSM
> > software is still problematic.
Scott Nelson - Wash DC - 27 Apr 2004 15:26 GMT
They activated the SIM on account in the system.
It is on hold in the system until it's activated.
Since it wasn't active when you tried the first time, the system denied
access until you called in and had it turned on.

Scotty

> I have a good GSM signal in my area and I got that error until AT&T
> activated the phone.  It happens because you have not yet called to have the
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> > > Good luck getting this straightened out. Sounds like their Convergys GSM
> > > software is still problematic.
Tony Clark - 27 Apr 2004 15:06 GMT
SNIP

> No, At&t starts the meter running on your account the day they stick the
> SIM card in the phone for you, BEFORE you receive it.

Don't see how they could do this. My SIM card was attached to a plastic
credit card and had to be dettached before it could be inserted into the
phone. They may have started my account billing when they shipped the phone
but the SIM card was definitely not inserted by ATT for me.

TC
Robert M. - 27 Apr 2004 15:20 GMT
> SNIP
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> phone. They may have started my account billing when they shipped the phone
> but the SIM card was definitely not inserted by ATT for me.

BELIEVE ME THEY DO IT.
John S. - 27 Apr 2004 15:43 GMT
>Don't see how they could do this.

They don't!

You might want to put RobertM in your spam filter. His iterations are little
more than that! NEVER does he say anything that is correct.

--
John S.
e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
Robert M. - 27 Apr 2004 16:35 GMT
> >Don't see how they could do this.
>
> They don't!
>
> You might want to put RobertM in your spam filter. His iterations are little
> more than that! NEVER does he say anything that is correct.

And you do?

AT&T has been known to start charging from the day they assemble a phone
to ship out, rather than the day one starts using it.

Sorry you want to apologize for AT&T Wireless and insult me.

AT&T Wireless most certainly does charge prematurely.
John S. - 26 Apr 2004 20:22 GMT
>My question is, am I still waiting on ATTWS to do something, or did
>something get screwed up along the way? Perhaps the phone arrived
>earlier than it should, and ATTWS hasn't run the changes yet?

My guess is is that AT&T WS is waiting on your to call customer service and
tell them that you got the phone and the SIM.

Typically there is something in the box that should tell you how to activate
the phone.

--
John S.
e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
MikeJ - 26 Apr 2004 21:11 GMT
>My guess is is that AT&T WS is waiting on your to call customer service and
>tell them that you got the phone and the SIM.
>
>Typically there is something in the box that should tell you how to activate
>the phone.

I guess that's what I'll have to do. It did come with a short
activation guide which explained how to install the SIM into the
phone, and then said to power it on and wait a bit for a welcome
message. Unfortunately, the "failed" message isn't mentioned in the
little pamphlet.

Thanks.
Robert M. - 26 Apr 2004 21:46 GMT
> >My question is, am I still waiting on ATTWS to do something, or did
> >something get screwed up along the way? Perhaps the phone arrived
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Typically there is something in the box that should tell you how to activate
> the phone.

No, typically the phone is preactivated so they have an excuse to start
charging you then.
Eric - 26 Apr 2004 22:08 GMT
rmarkoff@msn.com (Robert M.) wrote:
<<No, typically the phone is preactivated so they have an excuse to
start charging you then. >>

And you know this from 1st hand experience?? Odd, considering that you
have never been an AT&T wireless customer.... its a wonder how you know
the innerworkings of AT&T's company, billing service, etc.
LithiaSpgs - 26 Apr 2004 23:00 GMT
>No, typically the phone is preactivated so they have an excuse to start
>charging you then.

That is only if you are a new account ro changing phone numbers. This customer
is changing a number from TDMA to GSM if I read his post right. ATTWS cannot
have  2 phones with the same number so he will have to call and have them
deactivate the old phone first and them the new phone should accept the SIM.
MikeJ - 26 Apr 2004 23:19 GMT
>That is only if you are a new account ro changing phone numbers. This customer
>is changing a number from TDMA to GSM if I read his post right. ATTWS cannot
>have  2 phones with the same number so he will have to call and have them
>deactivate the old phone first and them the new phone should accept the SIM.

I'm betting you and John nailed it. I figured the process was handled
automatically, as nothing said on the site, in the email or in/on the
box to "call us when you get this" (to my knowledge).

But on 2nd thought, it wouldn't make much sense to just deactivate the
old TDMA phone when they figured I got the new one. So, it probably is
a job for Customer Service after all (who I intend to call as soon as
I have the time).

Thanks again.
Mike Cook - 27 Apr 2004 02:08 GMT
> >That is only if you are a new account ro changing phone numbers. This customer
> >is changing a number from TDMA to GSM if I read his post right. ATTWS cannot
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> a job for Customer Service after all (who I intend to call as soon as
> I have the time).

Yes, mine did exactly the same thing when I ordered it.  There should be a
flyer or brochure that tells you to call and activate the phone. Until that
time, you will get that error message.  Your billing will start when the
phone is activated (at least mine did).
 
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