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Who has better coverage for true GSM

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Bradley Moser - 18 Jul 2004 17:07 GMT
Who has the better coverage in the Washington DC area.
I have T-Mobile now.
My contract ends in December.
The coverage where I live in Germantown Md, sucks.
I have to have true GSM to talk to my Girlfriend overseas and SMS.
Is ATTWS any better.
When she moves here sometime next year I going to get her a phone on GSM so
she can sms and call back home.
Thanks for any help
Brad
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 18 Jul 2004 19:44 GMT
> Who has the better coverage in the Washington DC area.
> I have T-Mobile now.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Thanks for any help
> Brad

I don't know how T-Mobile roaming works, but I do know that ATT Wireless
has roaming agreements with T-Mobile and Cingular; that is, if you have
a GSM America plan and there's no ATTWS GSM signal nearby, but there is
a Cingular or T-Mobile GSM signal nearby, your phone will switch to
that--and will show the carrier--and will allow you to make a call, and
will charge you based on your plan.  For GSM America, if you're still
within your plan minutes, such roaming would be no cost.

So maybe T-Mobile customers won't roam to ATTWS towers, but I know that
ATTWS customers will work fine on T-Mobile towers as necessary.
Cyrus Afzali - 19 Jul 2004 12:54 GMT
>> Who has the better coverage in the Washington DC area.
>> I have T-Mobile now.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>So maybe T-Mobile customers won't roam to ATTWS towers, but I know that
>ATTWS customers will work fine on T-Mobile towers as necessary.

The AT&T roaming agreement is rather limited. It affects only specific
territories and corridors, and was really a better deal for AT&T
customers at the time it was announced than TM customers.
yeltrabnhoj@email.com - 19 Jul 2004 19:02 GMT
>Who has the better coverage in the Washington DC area.
>I have T-Mobile now.
>My contract ends in December.
>The coverage where I live in Germantown Md, sucks.
>I have to have true GSM to talk to my Girlfriend overseas and SMS.

There ain't no false GSM.  

Why would SMS from a decent CDMA provider (wlel, that lets out Sprint right
there), like Verizon, not work?

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Mark O'Brien - 27 Aug 2004 17:12 GMT
On 7/18/04 12:07 PM, in article MexKc.4541$Iz3.4305@nwrddc01.gnilink.net,

> Who has the better coverage in the Washington DC area.
> I have T-Mobile now.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Thanks for any help
> Brad

I have a T-Mobile account and used to have an AT&T account. At a friend's
house in Springfield VA, I couldn't get *any* kind of signal on my AT&T
phone. Then one day a few months ago (Dec '03/Jan '04?) I received a phone
call there. Finally, I thought, they've added a tower nearby! Then I
received my bill the next month and saw they had charged me .25/min roaming.
As it turned out, AT&T had made roaming agreements with T-Mobile and
Cingular, but on my plan at the time I would be charged.

In February, I switched that AT&T number to Cingular (mobile number
portability, hurray!) because on the Cingular nationwide plan all calls
would be subtracted from my monthly minutes, regardless of which carrier I
was on. When roaming, it simply says "Cingular Extended" on the display.
Additional advantages to Cingular include rollover minutes, and for
$2.99/month and a one time $39 purchase of a Fast Forward device (doubles as
a charging cradle) I can forward incoming calls to my home or office phone
and not be charged for the minutes. Yes, I know you can use GSM codes or the
phone's menu to forward calls on other carriers, but they charge you for the
minutes.

Finally, AT&T charged .25/min for international SMS (outgoing), where
T-Mobile and Cingular charged less. I don't remember how much at the moment,
as I'm not at home and don't have past bills handy.

HTH,
Mark
Joseph - 28 Aug 2004 01:57 GMT
>Additional advantages to Cingular include rollover minutes, and for
>$2.99/month and a one time $39 purchase of a Fast Forward device (doubles as
>a charging cradle) I can forward incoming calls to my home or office phone
>and not be charged for the minutes. Yes, I know you can use GSM codes or the
>phone's menu to forward calls on other carriers, but they charge you for the
>minutes.

Make that *some* do.  T-Mobile does not charge you for forwarded
minutes if you use conditional forwarding but uses your forwarding
bucket which includes 500 minutes per month.  Unconditional forwarding
uses plan minutes.  I believe AT&T charges the per minute rate for
forwarding that you would pay if you went over your allotted minutes.
I don't know how ¢ingular charges for forwarding minutes.

>Finally, AT&T charged .25/min for international SMS (outgoing), where
>T-Mobile and Cingular charged less. I don't remember how much at the moment,
>as I'm not at home and don't have past bills handy.

T-Mobile charges 5 cents per message.  I think you've got something
wrong there as how can you be charged "per minute" for sending SMS????

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JOHN SMITH - 28 Aug 2004 19:46 GMT
I currently have both AT&T and T-Mobile.  The T-Mobile account is almost
2 years old and the AT&T is still in the 30 day trial.  It's starting to
look like I will send the AT&T phone back.

T-Mobile's plans seem easier to understand.  Plain English.  Also if you
have T-Zones, they are unlimited.  mMode is metered

As pissed off with T-mo as I get some times, the plan and coverage is
really good.

The grass is NOT greener on the other side of the fence
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 28 Aug 2004 20:01 GMT
> T-Mobile's plans seem easier to understand.  Plain English.

Hmmmmm, I had no trouble understanding ATTWS's plan.  What does yours
say?
John Navas - 29 Aug 2004 05:47 GMT
>I currently have both AT&T and T-Mobile.  The T-Mobile account is almost
>2 years old and the AT&T is still in the 30 day trial.  It's starting to
>look like I will send the AT&T phone back.
>
>T-Mobile's plans seem easier to understand.  Plain English.  Also if you
>have T-Zones, they are unlimited.  mMode is metered

There are both metered and "unlimited" mMode plans.

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John Groseclose - 29 Aug 2004 06:52 GMT
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> There are both metered and "unlimited" mMode plans.

T-Zones appear to be a lot easier to customize and navigate (and, yes,
I've used both - but I've only got about a week on T-Zones since my
port from AT&TWS.)

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spam delenda est

John Navas - 30 Aug 2004 00:02 GMT
>> >I currently have both AT&T and T-Mobile.  The T-Mobile account is almost
>> >2 years old and the AT&T is still in the 30 day trial.  It's starting to
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>T-Zones appear to be a lot easier to customize and navigate ...

Point taken.

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John Navas     <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/

John S. - 29 Aug 2004 14:21 GMT
>The grass is NOT greener on the other side of the fence

And be sure that you always add -

YMMV

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