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Sprint Leads in data ARPU, Verizon passes Cingular in Subscribers, according to IDC Report

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SMS - 05 Apr 2007 19:20 GMT
See "http://www.itnews.com.au/newsstory.aspx?CIaNID=49296&src=site-marq"

Sprint leads Verizon by 41¢ in data ARPU.

Verizon passed Cingular in retail subscribers by half a million.
"Verizon became the new market leader in terms of total direct retail
subscribers/customers, with a total of 56.8 million, against 56.3
million for Cingular," said IDC's Julien Blin in a statement.

Cingular still leads in subscribers when you include wholesale MVNO
customers that sell under a variety of brands.
John Navas - 05 Apr 2007 19:52 GMT
>See "http://www.itnews.com.au/newsstory.aspx?CIaNID=49296&src=site-marq"
>
>Sprint leads Verizon by 41¢ in data ARPU.

Thanks to Nextel.

>Verizon passed Cingular in retail subscribers by half a million.

That's just a guess.  Only time will tell whether it's true or not.

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John Navas - 06 Apr 2007 05:57 GMT
>[SNIP]

Reality check:

Sprint still struggling to make Nextel merger work
Revenue expected to remain flat and big layoffs
coming for wireless carrier.
By Denise Pappalardo, NetworkWorld.com, 01/09/07
<http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/010907-sprint-nextel-earnings.html>

 The honeymoon period is clearly over for Sprint and Nextel. Their $36
 billion marriage at the end of 2005 was supposed to result in a
 wireless powerhouse with strong average revenue per user (ARPU). But
 Sprint Nextel Monday said its earnings for 2007 will fall below
 earlier expectation; its revenue will be flat and that it will lay
 off 5,000 employees to cut costs.

...

 Industry watchers say the carrier's ARPU sipped even further in the
 fourth quarter after three consecutive months of decline, yet strong
 ARPU was one of the reasons Sprint bought Nextel.

 Back in 2004, when the merger was proposed, Nextel’s ARPU was $69
 while Sprint’s was $63, Verizon’s $51.58 and Cingular’s $49.78. But
 Sprint Nextel hasn’t been able to maintain Nextel’s ARPU let alone
 Sprint's. The combined company reported ARPU of $61 in the third
 quarter.

 On the other hand, Verizon and Cingular’s figures have remained
 steady. Verizon reported ARPU of $50.59 and Cingular reported ARPU of
 $49.76 during the same period.

 In an attempt to cut expenses, Sprint Nextel is slashing its
 workforce to 59,600, about an 8% reduction expected to happen mostly
 this quarter.

 Trimming its payroll is one way it’s attempting to fix its financial
 problems, but the company clearly is betting its future on wireless
 broadband services, namely EV-DO Revision A and WiMAX.

 The company says its capital expenditures will be about $8.5 billion
 in 2007, $1.4 billion more than in 2006. The majority of that will be
 spent on expanding its wireless broadband networks.

 But the company’s laser focus on wireless broadband seems to be
 hurting the carrier in the short term.

 Some have speculated that the company has not maintained the Nextel
 network, services or customer service. Reports say that the majority
 of customers leaving Sprint stem from the Nextel side of the house,
 hence the loss of Nextel’s high ARPU.

 [MORE]

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Elmo P. Shagnasty - 06 Apr 2007 13:09 GMT
> >[SNIP]
>
> Reality check:

Rubbish.
james g. keegan jr. - 06 Apr 2007 15:19 GMT
> >[SNIP]
>
> Reality check:

not reality, john, what you did was denial.

[...]
Scott - 07 Apr 2007 00:20 GMT
>>[SNIP]
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> <http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/010907-sprint-nextel-earnings.ht
> ml>

A four month old article?  May be you should take your head out of your a.s 
and look at more recent events.
John Navas - 09 Apr 2007 18:50 GMT
<http://www.thestreet.com/_htmlbtb/smallbusinesstech/smallbusinesstech/10348860.html>

 Sprint's condition looks so dismal that an all-or-nothing bet on an
 unproven wireless technology is actually shaping up as a bright spot.

 Tuning out the static surrounding its repeated stumbles, Sprint late
 last month announced a major expansion of its wireless broadband
 project. After originally targeting Chicago and Baltimore, Sprint now
 says it will launch the so-called 4G service in 17 additional cities
 by the end of 2008.

 Sprint has budgeted about $2.75 billion for the effort, effectively
 doubling down on a not-yet-standardized wireless format known as
 mobile Worldwide Interoperability of Microwave Access, or WiMax.
 Theoretically, the new network will soon deliver the sort of speedy
 mobile Internet connections that people now enjoy at their desktops.
...
 "WiMax is our future," says one Sprint insider who is involved with
 the decision. "There's no margin for error. It's not like we can say
 'we gave it our best effort' and then move on."

 [MORE]

Sprint loses out on major contract
<http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-telecom30mar30,1,3918367.story?coll=la-hea
dlines-business
>

 Dealing a significant blow to Sprint Nextel Corp., the government
 Thursday awarded the largest-ever federal telecommunications contract
 -- a 10-year deal worth as much as $48 billion -- to Sprint rivals
 AT&T, Qwest Communications and Verizon.
...
 The GSA announcement was a serious loss for Sprint Nextel, analysts
 said, because the Reston, Va.-based company has been providing
 telecom services to the federal government for nearly 20 years.

 This year, Sprint announced thousands of job cuts amid service
 troubles, a dwindling customer base and difficulty assimilating
 Nextel Communications, which it acquired in 2004. Sprint shares are
 down about 20% from a year ago and the company is forecasting
 near-flat operating revenue and earnings this year.

 "It's terrible for Sprint," said technology consultant Warren Suss of
 Jenkintown, Pa. "The federal government was Sprint's first major
 customer since the company started."

 GSA officials would not say why Sprint lost out.

 [MORE]

Sprint Runs Out of Appeal
<http://www.thestreet.com/p/_rmct/rmoney/jimcramerblog/10331568.html>

 Sprint was a pure takeover target. That's why people owned it. No
 other reason. There was no earnings potential, none as the company
 pretty much telegraphed. You could bank on a disappointment, but
 people couldn't resist it. They believed that no matter how bad it
 was, they could withstand the pain because of the buyout potential.
 
 Of course, as with the Gap, as with Home Depot, when you speculate on
 this nonsense you have a really terrible risk/reward. Sure, Sprint
 could get a takeover bid, but it won't come from $20. It might not
 even come from $17.

 Fifteen feels more like it.

 Nobody can resist speculating on crummy companies. I just have to
 warn you that any potential buyers of this company know that things
 are crummy there and they aren't interested, either.

 The fundamentals of any company must be good enough that you will
 want to buy more if there is a disappointment. It's pretty clear
 today that Sprint owners want out. That's what you get when you make
 a bet on unsound merchandise.

 Caveat emptor.  

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Mij Adyaw - 09 Apr 2007 19:32 GMT
What is the reason that Sprint lost the contract? Does anyone have any
information? Navas, do you know anything?

> <http://www.thestreet.com/_htmlbtb/smallbusinesstech/smallbusinesstech/10348860.html>
>
[quoted text clipped - 71 lines]
>
>  Caveat emptor.
John Navas - 09 Apr 2007 20:12 GMT
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/29/AR2007032901061.
html?nav=rss_technology/techpolicy
>

 Although the contract is a big win for AT&T, Qwest and Verizon,
 industry analysts said, it is a devastating blow for Sprint, which
 has provided services under the government's previous two major
 telecom contracts, spanning two decades.

 "This doesn't just mean a loss of federal business -- this will
 marginalize Sprint and really narrow their scope to a niche wireless
 contractor versus a broad carrier," said Warren Suss, a telecom
 analyst for Suss Consulting in Jenkintown, Pa. "The fact that they
 didn't make the cut here means that from a pricing and technological
 point of view, they had a hard time providing services across the
 board."

 Other analysts speculated that the government was wary of doing
 business with Sprint, which has been losing subscribers and whose
 stock has lost about 20 percent of its value, adjusted for dividends
 and splits, since its 2005 merger with Nextel. William E. Kennard,
 former chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, was brought
 on to Sprint's board of directors after the merger, in part to help
 bolster the company's federal presence. He resigned from his post
 three weeks ago -- an early sign, some say, that Sprint was facing
 defeat.

 [MORE]

<http://go.sosd.com/adapt/servlet/nrp?cid=RIM&cmd=sty&pgn=1&ino=1053510&cat=Technology>

 While current GSA officials would not say why Sprint lost out, Bob
 Woods, a former official at the agency who now works as a consultant,
 surmised that Sprint could not meet the low prices of its
 competitors. Woods estimated that Sprint could lose roughly $200
 million to $250 million annually in existing government business.

 Executives from Sprint plan to meet with GSA officials next week to
 discuss why their contract proposal fell short, and the company will
 decide afterwards whether to file a protest, spokeswoman Sukhi Sahni
 said in an e-mail.

 [MORE]

Sprint Nextel will not protest contract
<http://www.kansascity.com/438/story/62087.html>

 Sprint Nextel Corp., the only losing bidder among four companies
 vying for a government telecommunications contract worth up to $48
 billion, said Friday it has decided not to protest last week's
 decision.

 The company met with the General Service Administration on Wednesday
 for a "debriefing" on why they weren't chosen for the 10-year
 "Networx Universal" contract.
...
 Sprint, which has been supplying telecom services to the government
 for the last 18 years, lost out to Verizon Communications Inc., AT&T
 Inc. and Qwest Communications International Inc. for the Universal
 contract. As a result, Sprint will not be able to compete for
 individual agency business for the next decade.

 [MORE]

<http://svextra.com/blogs/gmsv/2007/03/big_telecom_party_in_dc_sprints_invitation
_lost_in_the_mail.html
>

 The blow to Sprint, which had participated in providing telecom
 services to the federal government for nearly 20 years, was a
 crusher. The company has been leaking customers and jobs since
 acquiring Nextel in 2005, and it had already announced plans to lay
 off 5,000 workers this year as sales lagged. Asked why Sprint was
 sent home, John Johnson of the GPA would say only, "The three
 awardees best meet our needs." Sprint officials said they would press
 the feds for a more detailed explanation next week before deciding
 whether to protest its exclusion.  [MORE]

>What is the reason that Sprint lost the contract? Does anyone have any
>information? Navas, do you know anything?
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>>
>>  Caveat emptor.

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jgrove24@hotmail.com - 13 Apr 2007 00:56 GMT
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/29/AR200...>
>
>   Although the contract is a big win for AT&T, Qwest and Verizon,
>   industry analysts said, it is a devastating blow for Sprint, which
>   has provided services under the government's previous two major
>   telecom contracts, spanning two decades.

Joey Nachoes was a visionary, FREE JOEY !! JG
Scott - 10 Apr 2007 00:56 GMT
> What is the reason that Sprint lost the contract? Does anyone have any
> information? Navas, do you know anything?

Navas doesn't know anything if it's not contained in a Google link.

One thought on the street is that Sprint might have half-assed the whole
thing because while the dollars sound great, margin on those types of
accounts are horrible.  Between huge equipment subsidies (including
contracted cell towers and private networks), huge pricing discounts,
special billing requirements, budget shortfalls (which stop payment in a
heartbeat) and the necessity to go through the GSA for payment puts net
revenue far below any other tier of customer in the industry.  The money
looks good coming in, but id of no value if most of it goes right back out.

The budget piece is of particular importance- the contract was advertised
as being worth "up to $48B" over ten years.  The real value won't be
determined by the carriers- it will be determined by Congress.

There is a secondary contract being offered later in the year with fewer
requirements and worth $20B.  Sprint may be focusing their energies there.
Scott - 10 Apr 2007 00:39 GMT
> <http://www.thestreet.com/_htmlbtb/smallbusinesstech/smallbusinesstech/
> 10348860.html>

Great article at face value but a few things stand out- I spotted at least
three major inaccuracies and no comparative mention of Cingular's merger
woes.
Larry - 11 Apr 2007 02:47 GMT
> Sprint has budgeted about $2.75 billion for the effort, effectively
>   doubling down on a not-yet-standardized wireless format known as
>   mobile Worldwide Interoperability of Microwave Access, or WiMax.
>   Theoretically, the new network will soon deliver the sort of speedy
>   mobile Internet connections that people now enjoy at their desktops.
> ...

So, John, do you think the archaic audio cellphone systems, like CDMA,
will continue, even though the planet is being dragged, kicking and
screaming if necessary, into a new data age?

The key to WiMax is the "Worldwide Interoperability" part.  Everyone on
the SAME system across the planet.  Your WiMax VoIP phone and WiMax
computer will work in ANY country on ANY system.  That's the aim, much,
I'm sure, to the dismay of the maze of wireless phone carriers in the
USA/Canada.

No, I believe Sprint is simply placing themselves at the head of the line
in the WiMax transition.  Instead of this multiple, half-assed, parallel
system of cellular/PCS phone nonsense America is today of non-cooperating
competitors, who only briefly coordinate their inadequacies with other
carriers on their particular data scheme, then refuse to cooperate,
dispite their customers having all these holes.  WiMax carriers will all
be resellers of the SAME system, each a part of the whole, as cellular
should have been by force of law from its inception.

Those lagging behind, trying to hold onto their little archaic fiefdoms,
as now, will find themselves losing revenues, as the worldwide WiMax
becomes a reality.  The sooner the better for all of us...er,
ah...customers, that is....(c;

Larry
--
John Navas - 11 Apr 2007 04:25 GMT
>> Sprint has budgeted about $2.75 billion for the effort, effectively
>>   doubling down on a not-yet-standardized wireless format known as
>>   mobile Worldwide Interoperability of Microwave Access, or WiMax.
>>   Theoretically, the new network will soon deliver the sort of speedy
>>   mobile Internet connections that people now enjoy at their desktops.
>> ...

>So, John, do you think the archaic audio cellphone systems, like CDMA,

CDMA2000.

>will continue, even though the planet is being dragged, kicking and
>screaming if necessary, into a new data age?

Yes.

>The key to WiMax is the "Worldwide Interoperability" part.  Everyone on
>the SAME system across the planet.  Your WiMax VoIP phone and WiMax
>computer will work in ANY country on ANY system.  That's the aim, much,
>I'm sure, to the dismay of the maze of wireless phone carriers in the
>USA/Canada.

Unfortunately, that's not what's actually happening.

>No, I believe Sprint is simply placing themselves at the head of the line
>in the WiMax transition.

I think Sprint is making a very big and very risky bet.

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Scott - 11 Apr 2007 05:10 GMT
>>The key to WiMax is the "Worldwide Interoperability" part.  Everyone
>>on the SAME system across the planet.  Your WiMax VoIP phone and WiMax
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Unfortunately, that's not what's actually happening.

Actually that is exactly what is happening, which you would know if you had
a clue about the subject.

>>No, I believe Sprint is simply placing themselves at the head of the
>>line in the WiMax transition.
>
> I think Sprint is making a very big and very risky bet.

I think you don't understand anything about cellular, at least not more
than the average consumer.
Yura - 13 Apr 2007 01:31 GMT
> <http://www.thestreet.com/_htmlbtb/smallbusinesstech/smallbusinesstech/10348860.html>
WELL..  It' looks like the Cocksucker NAVAS is back. And sucking harder
than ever.  Hey NAVAS, hows it feel to have cocksuckers cramp in your anus?
 
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