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Put a "Home" entry in your phone book

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SMS - 04 May 2007 19:08 GMT
Yesterday I was driving down a street near my house and I saw a cell
phone in front of me at an intersection I had just stopped at. I jumped
out and retrieved it.

Unfortunately the owner did not have any entry in the phone book for
"home," "wife," "ICE" (in case of emergency), etc.

I called someone in his phonebook and explained the situation and this
person was able to contact the owner. The owner called me, and arranged
to pick up the phone later that evening. Fortunately (or stupidly) I
gave the owner my address. Because it was a T-Mobile phone, and I have
no T-Mobile coverage inside my house (1 bar outside), he couldn't call
me once I returned home. I had told him to call me on his phone before
he came, but he just showed up because he couldn't call.

Anyway, I think it's a good idea to have an obvious entry in your phone
book that enables someone that finds your phone to contact you or
someone else that you trust. Make it the first entry when your phone
book is opened, by putting a 1 (or other character that makes it be
first) as the first character.
John Navas - 04 May 2007 19:48 GMT
>Yesterday I was driving down a street near my house and I saw a cell
>phone in front of me at an intersection I had just stopped at. I jumped
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>me once I returned home. I had told him to call me on his phone before
>he came, but he just showed up because he couldn't call.

A better approach is to call the carrier on the phone, who should be
able to easily contact the subscriber.  A random someone in the
phonebook could turn out to be a problem (e.g., vindictive ex-spouse).

>Anyway, I think it's a good idea to have an obvious entry in your phone
>book that enables someone that finds your phone to contact you or
>someone else that you trust. Make it the first entry when your phone
>book is opened, by putting a 1 (or other character that makes it be
>first) as the first character.

ICE with a number prefix is the recommended entry to use:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_case_of_emergency>

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BruceR - 04 May 2007 19:50 GMT
Good idea!

> Yesterday I was driving down a street near my house and I saw a cell
> phone in front of me at an intersection I had just stopped at. I
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> phone book is opened, by putting a 1 (or other character that makes
> it be first) as the first character.
Kurt - 04 May 2007 19:51 GMT
> Yesterday I was driving down a street near my house and I saw a cell
> phone in front of me at an intersection I had just stopped at. I jumped
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> book is opened, by putting a 1 (or other character that makes it be
> first) as the first character.

Last year, I found one while hiking some backroads in Japan.
Not being a japanese speaker (or reader) this was tough! No english
anywhere.
Ended up having a local person take care of it.

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Lee - 04 May 2007 19:59 GMT
> Anyway, I think it's a good idea to have an obvious entry in your phone
> book that enables someone that finds your phone to contact you or
> someone else that you trust. Make it the first entry when your phone
> book is opened, by putting a 1 (or other character that makes it be
> first) as the first character.

I use ICE (in case of Emergency) on my phone and thought that would
be good enough now I am not so sure!

Lee (in Florida)
SMS - 04 May 2007 21:37 GMT
> I use ICE (in case of Emergency) on my phone and thought that would
> be good enough now I am not so sure!
>
> Lee (in Florida)

I have an ICE entry, but most people have no idea what it means! I
almost got in trouble when my wife saw my phone and saw "ICE Wife".

Maybe an "If Found Call" entry would be the most obvious.
Larry - 05 May 2007 04:47 GMT
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> I
> almost got in trouble when my wife saw my phone and saw "ICE Wife".

She ever find those old pantyhose your buds stuffed up under the front
passenger seat?

Larry
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Ric - 05 May 2007 11:09 GMT
> > I use ICE (in case of Emergency) on my phone and thought that would
> > be good enough now I am not so sure!
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>
> Maybe an "If Found Call" entry would be the most obvious.

I explained what the ICE entry is in my phone and set one up in hers
too.

In God's Grace,
Ric
Todd Allcock - 05 May 2007 17:43 GMT
> I explained what the ICE entry is in my phone and set one up in hers
> too.

Great!  Hopefully you'll be able to explain what an ICE entry is to the
guy that finds you in an emergency, because I suspect 80% of the populace
has no idea what "ICE" means!  ;-)

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Harry - 05 May 2007 21:35 GMT
>> I explained what the ICE entry is in my phone and set one up in hers
>> too.
>
>Great!  Hopefully you'll be able to explain what an ICE entry is to the
>guy that finds you in an emergency, because I suspect 80% of the populace
>has no idea what "ICE" means!  ;-)

On my phone I have 2 entries that file first 1) ICE - Home, and 2) ICE
- Wife. Hopefully these would be explanatory to somebody in an
emergency. However, it is also free insurance so why not take it?
John Richards - 05 May 2007 21:58 GMT
> On my phone I have 2 entries that file first 1) ICE - Home, and 2) ICE
> - Wife. Hopefully these would be explanatory to somebody in an
> emergency. However, it is also free insurance so why not take it?

Not sure why names like "Home" and "Wife" would need any
further clarification. Seems pretty self-evident to me.
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John Richards - 05 May 2007 21:55 GMT
>> I explained what the ICE entry is in my phone and set one up in hers
>> too.
>
> Great!  Hopefully you'll be able to explain what an ICE entry is to the
> guy that finds you in an emergency, because I suspect 80% of the populace
> has no idea what "ICE" means!  ;-)

I agree.
"ICE" makes me think of Immigration and Customs Enforcement,
the successor agency to the INS. They've been much in the news lately.
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Brian Gordon - 06 May 2007 00:48 GMT
>> I explained what the ICE entry is in my phone and set one up in hers
>> too.
>
>Great!  Hopefully you'll be able to explain what an ICE entry is to the
>guy that finds you in an emergency, because I suspect 80% of the populace
>has no idea what "ICE" means!  ;-)

Worse, 100% of the EMTs and Paramedics I talked to said they would be fired
on the spot if they were found messing with a patient's cellphone directory.
Invasion of privacy and all that ...

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Jer - 06 May 2007 05:19 GMT
>>> I explained what the ICE entry is in my phone and set one up in hers
>>> too.
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> on the spot if they were found messing with a patient's cellphone directory.
> Invasion of privacy and all that ...

Absolutely correct.  Truth is, the idea of an ICE entry is still good.
The coroner can do an autopsy on the phone too, discover the ICE, and
will eventually learn where to send the body.

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William Michael Greene - 06 May 2007 11:20 GMT
I usually wont get into threads that offer no value. Threads that a few
people entertain themselves by writing useless info that could not be
farther from the truth. The thought that trying to reach someone's loved
ones after an accident by using their cell phone would be considered
invasion of privacy borders on being ridiculous. Who would object? Oh wait,
I may be dying but don't try and reach someone that might need to know,
Ridiculous..
When I have been confronted by info that may be questionable I usually seek
the truth. If you are open to some feedback, do the same. Then go ahead and
make an "ICE" entry into you cell phone. Who knows, it might come in handy
one day. What could be the worse thing to happen. You could use up one of
the 100's of entries available, so what?

http://www.snopes.com/crime/prevent/icephone.asp

>>> I explained what the ICE entry is in my phone and set one up in hers
>>> too.
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Ric - 06 May 2007 17:20 GMT
On May 6, 6:20 am, "William Michael Greene" <w...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> I usually wont get into threads that offer no value. Threads that a few
> people entertain themselves by writing useless info that could not be
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William,

Thank you!

In God's Grace,
Ric
William Michael Greene - 06 May 2007 21:43 GMT
On May 6, 6:20 am, "William Michael Greene" <w...@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
> I usually wont get into threads that offer no value. Threads that a few
> people entertain themselves by writing useless info that could not be
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William,

Thank you!

In God's Grace,
Ric

You are welcome Ric.

William Greene.
clifto - 06 May 2007 20:17 GMT
> I usually wont get into threads that offer no value. Threads that a few
> people entertain themselves by writing useless info that could not be
> farther from the truth.

If it weren't for people like you, I'd never know what to believe.
Thank you, Your Majesty, for your guidance.

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next ten years, but who's so incredibly stupid He couldn't think up the
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William Michael Greene - 06 May 2007 21:45 GMT
>> I usually wont get into threads that offer no value. Threads that a few
>> people entertain themselves by writing useless info that could not be
>> farther from the truth.
>
> If it weren't for people like you, I'd never know what to believe.
> Thank you, Your Majesty, for your guidance.

No, thank you, just as you quote points out, you are very versed at
cynicism....
The Ghost of General Lee - 06 May 2007 14:32 GMT
>>> I explained what the ICE entry is in my phone and set one up in hers
>>> too.
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>on the spot if they were found messing with a patient's cellphone directory.
>Invasion of privacy and all that ...

In my experiences, it's not medical personnel who try to determine the
identity of the patient.  They let law enforcement do it.
Jer - 06 May 2007 14:48 GMT
>>>> I explained what the ICE entry is in my phone and set one up in hers
>>>> too.
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> In my experiences, it's not medical personnel who try to determine the
> identity of the patient.  They let law enforcement do it.

Speaking of law enforcement, allowing a street bugging stranger to have
unfettered access to your address book seems like a really spiffy idea.
 With a few reverse lookups on the net, they'll have telephone numbers,
addresses, names, who really knows what else.  No sir, keep your rat
bitch paws off my phone unless you want to lose really important
appendages.  My phone stays locked for all the right reasons.  Law
enforcement knows what to do and how to do it.

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Harry - 06 May 2007 21:30 GMT
>Speaking of law enforcement, allowing a street bugging stranger to have
>unfettered access to your address book seems like a really spiffy idea.
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>appendages.  My phone stays locked for all the right reasons.  Law
>enforcement knows what to do and how to do it.

So what do you do about your wallet which has your driver's license
with home address on it? Not to mention your credit cards and all
that. What about your wife and her pocket book which has all the same
info?

If you are mugged the bad guys get everything and it really doesn't
matter if your phone is locked or not. On the other hand if you lose
your phone I think the odds are pretty good that a good guy will find
it.
Jer - 06 May 2007 23:25 GMT
>> Speaking of law enforcement, allowing a street bugging stranger to have
>> unfettered access to your address book seems like a really spiffy idea.
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> your phone I think the odds are pretty good that a good guy will find
> it.

The error you're making is assuming I'm a typical person... I'm not.  I
have no need for a wallet, nor most stuff one would find in one.
Driver's license?  I have one but don't walk around with it.  Credit
cards?  Don't need any, don't have any.  Pictures?  I already know what
the family looks like.  I carry some cash folded in a pocket and use it
for anything I want.  Cell phone?  On the odd occasion I'd actually have
one, it goes in the other pocket and is locked up.  The gun is in a
waist holster under a shirt or in a boot.  I only carry important stuff
with me, and I don't lose it.  YMMV.

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Harry - 07 May 2007 02:58 GMT
SNIP

>The error you're making is assuming I'm a typical person... I'm not.  I
>have no need for a wallet, nor most stuff one would find in one.
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>waist holster under a shirt or in a boot.  I only carry important stuff
>with me, and I don't lose it.  YMMV.

Please tell me you don't live anywhere near me. LOL
Paul Miner - 10 May 2007 04:39 GMT
>> If you are mugged the bad guys get everything and it really doesn't
>> matter if your phone is locked or not. On the other hand if you lose
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>waist holster under a shirt or in a boot.  I only carry important stuff
>with me, and I don't lose it.  YMMV.

I predict you'll be famous some day.

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Ric - 06 May 2007 17:17 GMT
> In article <463ca80e$0$16386$88260...@free.teranews.com>,
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Brian Gordon - 06 May 2007 22:21 GMT
>> In article <463ca80e$0$16386$88260...@free.teranews.com>,
>>
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>> on the spot if they were found messing with a patient's cellphone directory.
>> Invasion of privacy and all that ...

>What state are you in?

I asked the questions in CA and AZ.  I don't know any emergency tyoes here in
SC, yet.
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The Ghost of General Lee - 07 May 2007 00:53 GMT
>I don't know any emergency tyoes here in
>SC, yet.

What part of SC?  Greenville County, here.
Ric - 08 May 2007 01:05 GMT
> In article <1178468261.873873.192...@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
>
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Get in touch with your local emergency department (Fire Department,
Police Department, etc...) and ask them if they have any
recommendations about an "ICE" directory or some sort for your
personal cell phone.

Here in Florida it's now so well known I have even ICEed my work cell
phone.

In God's Grace,
Ric
Me - 13 May 2007 20:56 GMT
> Worse, 100% of the EMTs and Paramedics I talked to said they would be fired
> on the spot if they were found messing with a patient's cellphone directory.
> Invasion of privacy and all that ...

I have been told by the city police department (Pasadena, CA) that the
paramedics are trained to check for ICE on the cell phone. This was the
police dept spokesperson who told us this.
Kurt - 14 May 2007 01:22 GMT
> > Worse, 100% of the EMTs and Paramedics I talked to said they would be fired
> > on the spot if they were found messing with a patient's cellphone directory.
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> paramedics are trained to check for ICE on the cell phone. This was the
> police dept spokesperson who told us this.

It's pretty standard all over the country.
BTW - Almost went to the Rose Bowl Flea market today. Too lazy to leave
Ventura.
BTW- A lot of the same vendors sell at the one at Ventura County
Fairgrounds (Both are RG Canning run) - most of the time cheaper prices.
RB still has better selection and more vendors.

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Ric - 06 May 2007 17:15 GMT
> > I explained what the ICE entry is in my phone and set one up in hers
> > too.
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> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com

Our local and state (Florida) are trained to look for the ICE on
people's cell if the person is unable to ask for help or give any
contact info.
SMS - 07 May 2007 05:09 GMT
>> I explained what the ICE entry is in my phone and set one up in hers
>> too.
>
> Great!  Hopefully you'll be able to explain what an ICE entry is to the
> guy that finds you in an emergency, because I suspect 80% of the populace
> has no idea what "ICE" means!  ;-)

Yeah, ICE is actually not the entry you want if you're trying to get a
lost phone back, as most of the populace doesn't know what it means.

An "If Found" is probably the most obvious entry, or if you keep your
phone locked, put a label on it. Many people want to do the right thing
and return property that they find, but they won't spend a lot of time
trying to figure out how to find the owner.
Ric - 08 May 2007 01:08 GMT
> >> I explained what the ICE entry is in my phone and set one up in hers
> >> too.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> and return property that they find, but they won't spend a lot of time
> trying to figure out how to find the owner.

What's funny is that when you power up my phone I entered the greeting
text to say:

This Phone Was Stolen From:
Ric (Last name)
(Address)
(home phone number)

I think that get the point across in a funny way. ;-)

In God's Grace,
Ric
Tinman - 08 May 2007 05:08 GMT
> What's funny is that when you power up my phone I entered the greeting
> text to say:
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>
> I think that get the point across in a funny way. ;-)

Yep, if I found your phone and that's the message that came up I'd laugh
hysterically as I tossed it in the trash.

I hope you get the point in a funny way.

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Ric - 08 May 2007 14:38 GMT
> > What's funny is that when you power up my phone I entered the greeting
> > text to say:
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> --
> Mike

Yep, that was one of the funny ways I got your point. ;)

Ric
Kevin Weaver - 04 May 2007 23:49 GMT
Good thing the phone was on. Or not locked.

> Yesterday I was driving down a street near my house and I saw a cell phone
> in front of me at an intersection I had just stopped at. I jumped out and
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> opened, by putting a 1 (or other character that makes it be first) as the
> first character.
SMS - 04 May 2007 23:57 GMT
> Good thing the phone was on. Or not locked.

Well it was off, but I managed to push the button to turn it on. If it
had had a discharged battery I'd have been out of luck as it was a
Samsung phone for which I have no charger.

I would have just dropped it off at the T-Mobile store if I hadn't been
able to make a call.

Maybe putting a label on the outside of the phone with a phone number to
call if found would also be a good idea, in addition to an "if found"
entry in your phone book. Given that most people have no idea what "ICE"
means, I don't think that "ICE" is a good entry for this purpose.
rlsusenet@NOSPAMPUHLEEZschnapp.org - 05 May 2007 00:59 GMT
>> Good thing the phone was on. Or not locked.
>
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> entry in your phone book. Given that most people have no idea what "ICE"
> means, I don't think that "ICE" is a good entry for this purpose.

My Treo, in its locked state, says

"Owner: My Name
 Call xxx-xxx-xxxx for reward

    Emergency?
 Call My Wife's Name at yyy-yyy-yyyy"
Ric - 05 May 2007 11:07 GMT
> Yesterday I was driving down a street near my house and I saw a cell
> phone in front of me at an intersection I had just stopped at. I jumped
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> book is opened, by putting a 1 (or other character that makes it be
> first) as the first character.

Yes, I learned that nice little trick years ago. In my phone I have an
ICE group, and my wife is clearly IDed as my wide on my phone.

This kind of info should be in owners manuals of new cell phones so
more people could be aware of this great safety feature!

In God's Grace,
Ric
Jer - 05 May 2007 19:19 GMT
> Yesterday I was driving down a street near my house and I saw a cell
> phone in front of me at an intersection I had just stopped at. I jumped
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> book is opened, by putting a 1 (or other character that makes it be
> first) as the first character.

If anyone ever finds my phone laying in the street, I don't want it
back.  There's a very good reason why I tossed it out the window.

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Ric - 06 May 2007 17:15 GMT
> > Yesterday I was driving down a street near my house and I saw a cell
> > phone in front of me at an intersection I had just stopped at. I jumped
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LOL! I can relate!
SMS - 07 May 2007 05:50 GMT
> If anyone ever finds my phone laying in the street, I don't want it
> back.  There's a very good reason why I tossed it out the window.

Yeah, that was my first thought when I saw that it was a T-Mobile phone,
especially because the place I found, about two blocks from my house, it
an area with no T-Mobile coverage. It was like "yeah, that subscriber
just lost his cool and threw the phone into the street because he had no
coverage."
DTC - 06 May 2007 16:18 GMT
> Unfortunately the owner did not have any entry in the phone book for
> "home," "wife," "ICE" (in case of emergency), etc.

As SMS pointed out in a following post, putting a sticker on your phone is
effective.

I have my office phone number on a sticker covered with clear tape that
lasts about six months before I starts to peel off. Trimming the squared
off edges of the tape helps.

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