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P.Schuman - 19 May 2007 20:57 GMT how do folks handle tranferring an ever growing & important phonebook to a new phone ??
Over the years, I've always managed to purchase a vendor data cable + vendor software to download to a PC and then upload to a new phone - within the vendor family of phones.
But this approach doesn't seem to be viable for a lot of phones.... so - how do you backup, download, or transfer you phone's important data ??
BruceR - 19 May 2007 21:27 GMT www.zyb.com does it free.
> how do folks handle tranferring an ever growing & important phonebook > to a new phone ?? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > so - how do you backup, download, or transfer you phone's important > data ?? Drumstick - 19 May 2007 21:44 GMT > www.zyb.com does it free. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > so - how do you backup, download, or transfer you phone's important > > data ?? I use BitPim. I don't like the idea of anybody having my phone data "online" someplace. Verizon is now backing up phonebooks for free but I don't trust them either. My data may be no safer with me but at least I know where it is...
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BruceR - 19 May 2007 23:27 GMT >> www.zyb.com does it free. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Drum-- The ZYB solution is free and extremely easy. After one is done transferring, one could always delete the data and even close the account. For myself, I'm not worried about the security of the data since virtually all of the info can already be found in public phonebooks. It's not exactly a Janus List.
George - 19 May 2007 23:51 GMT > The ZYB solution is free and extremely easy. After one is done > transferring, one could always delete the data and even close the > account. For myself, I'm not worried about the security of the data > since virtually all of the info can already be found in public > phonebooks. It's not exactly a Janus List. Maybe, but phonebooks are just lists. Your contacts and numbers are all related to you in some fashion. Knowledge is power.
BruceR - 20 May 2007 00:20 GMT >> The ZYB solution is free and extremely easy. After one is done >> transferring, one could always delete the data and even close the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Maybe, but phonebooks are just lists. Your contacts and numbers are > all related to you in some fashion. Knowledge is power. True indeed but my life is an open book anyway. Digging into my phonebook would give boredom a whole new meaning and, while I wouldn't want to post it publicly, ZYB and the offerings from carriers and manufacturers seem pretty low risk.
Larry - 20 May 2007 02:45 GMT "BruceR" <razrbruce@NOgmailSPAM.com> wrote in news:464f8647$0$1404 $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
> True indeed but my life is an open book anyway. Digging into my > phonebook would give boredom a whole new meaning and, while I wouldn't > want to post it publicly, ZYB and the offerings from carriers and > manufacturers seem pretty low risk. Did you guys know the American landline companies all store all your personal information with some company in ISRAEL?....OUT OF REACH of the Federal Government's laws protecting it?
There was a YouTube documentary from some TV network about it, showing this unsecured building that has the phone records of the entire USA just sitting there.....and probably for sale for the right price.....
The billing information and all are stored there so they can easily see who you called and who called you, too. Not sure if cellular carriers store their stuff there, too. It's a HUGE operation....
Larry
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BruceR - 20 May 2007 02:55 GMT From your sig I can see that you're prone towards conspiracy theories (which is not a bad thing!) but this scenario seems a bit farfetched. If true, Isreal is probably one of the safest places but for what purpose? Telcos are not required to keep call call records for more than 90 days and your account info is already on their servers locally.
> "BruceR" <razrbruce@NOgmailSPAM.com> wrote in news:464f8647$0$1404 > $4c368faf@roadrunner.com: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Larry Larry - 20 May 2007 06:30 GMT "BruceR" <razrbruce@NOgmailSPAM.com> wrote in news:464faaab$0$8967 $4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
> From your sig I can see that you're prone towards conspiracy theories > (which is not a bad thing!) but this scenario seems a bit farfetched. > If true, Isreal is probably one of the safest places but for what > purpose? Telcos are not required to keep call call records for more than > 90 days and your account info is already on their servers locally. Not far fetched, at all. Your entire phone history is stored, for whatever purpose, in a foreign country you have no control over, whatsoever. The fact that it is in one of the combative Middle Eastern countries, who as we are supposed to forget, attacked our Navy ship SEVERAL TIMES, and killed 132 American sailors flying the largest US flag the ship carried while trying to conceal committing genocide on Egyptians during their 1967 war against their neighbors. In case you've been brainwashed, that ship was the USS Liberty. 3 guys I went to ET School with died in the attack. It could have just as well have been me.
I cannot help think the entire US phone database is stored in a country run by these same wonderful friends of America, immediately accessible to the Israeli Mossad secret police, who can use this information for whatever purposes the State of Israel deems "necessary" to keep the American Tax Dollars pouring in to fund such wonderful enterprises as Tadiran, creating AWACs planes to sell to our enemies.
The State of Israel has an over 50 year history of spying on America, very well documented.
As you can see, my paranoid schitzophrenia is well fed by past historical facts and the current state of international affairs that state is well involved in helping to create.
Larry
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I think NOT!
It's your turn to start screaming anti-semite....as per JDL instructions.
-= Hawk =- - 20 May 2007 04:19 GMT >>> www.zyb.com does it free. >>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >since virtually all of the info can already be found in public >phonebooks. It's not exactly a Janus List. Until your friends start wondering where all the text message spam is coming from...
BruceR - 20 May 2007 05:01 GMT >> The ZYB solution is free and extremely easy. After one is done >> transferring, one could always delete the data and even close the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Until your friends start wondering where all the text message spam is > coming from... I've used it. No one has gotten either. Where did you get the information that they are doing that... or is it just your opinion that they will?
Todd H. - 20 May 2007 06:06 GMT > >> The ZYB solution is free and extremely easy. After one is done > >> transferring, one could always delete the data and even close the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > information that they are doing that... or is it just your opinion that > they will? Unless their site is dripping with ads that are getting eyeballs, one has to wonder the business plan of the site. And just because the privacy policy or terms of use say one thing today, these have a pesky way of meandering when someone else purchases the company and wants to leverage the information assets of the company to make a profit.
It'd be something I'd be very careful with certainly because you're handing over a notion of all your friends to a third party, and it comes down to trust.
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Todd H. - 20 May 2007 06:00 GMT > Until your friends start wondering where all the text message spam is > coming from... Ding ding ding!
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P.Schuman - 20 May 2007 04:48 GMT > www.zyb.com does it free. well - none of the Kyocera/Qualcomm phones are listed - https://zyb.com/help/?pagemode=phones
so - I wonder what the common denominator is for this service to work ??
P.Schuman - 20 May 2007 04:51 GMT > > www.zyb.com does it free. > > > well - none of the Kyocera/Qualcomm phones are listed - > https://zyb.com/help/?pagemode=phones > > so - I wonder what the common denominator is for this service to work ?? here - from the ZYB website FAQ - -- No, as long as you have a working WAP access on your mobile, you should be able to use the service, GPRS just makes the service a lot faster to use.
--->>> You must, however, have a SyncML enabled mobile to use ZYB.
Anon E. Muss - 19 May 2007 23:16 GMT >how do folks handle tranferring an ever growing & important phonebook >to a new phone ?? I make sure I only buy phones that allow me to SYNC with Microsoft's Outlook (e.g., Nokia smartphones [e.g., 3600, 6620 or Crackberries)
>Over the years, I've always managed to purchase >a vendor data cable + vendor software to download to a PC >and then upload to a new phone - within the vendor family of phones. > >But this approach doesn't seem to be viable for a lot of phones.... >so - how do you backup, download, or transfer you phone's important data ?? I routinely SYNC and manage my contact on Outlook. When the new phone arrives, I make sure my contact/calendar is SYNCed with the PC. I then plug in the new phone and shoot the contents from the PC to the new phone.
Todd H. - 20 May 2007 00:32 GMT > how do folks handle tranferring an ever growing & important phonebook > to a new phone ?? With Cingular (at&t) gsm it's pretty simple. Copy all your contacts to the SIM card from the old phone (SIM needn't even be activated still), pop sim in new phone. Done.
If the new phone came with a new SIM, then copy contacts from the old SIM card to the phone, pop in new sim card, and decide if you want to copy from phone to SIM or not, and be on your merry way.
-- Todd H. http://toddh.net/
Larry Weil - 20 May 2007 18:17 GMT > > how do folks handle tranferring an ever growing & important phonebook > > to a new phone ?? > > With Cingular (at&t) gsm it's pretty simple. Copy all your contacts > to the SIM card from the old phone (SIM needn't even be activated > still), pop sim in new phone. Done. This will not work if you have multiple phone numbers on one or more contacts. The sim will only store one phone number per contact.
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Todd H. - 21 May 2007 01:59 GMT > > > how do folks handle tranferring an ever growing & important phonebook > > > to a new phone ?? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > This will not work if you have multiple phone numbers on one or more > contacts. The sim will only store one phone number per contact. Not true for all phone.
Did it last week from a Nokia and they copied to the sim card as Entry Name Entry Name1 Entry Name2 Entry Name3
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Larry - 20 May 2007 02:41 GMT > But this approach doesn't seem to be viable for a lot of phones.... > so - how do you backup, download, or transfer you phone's important > data ?? I pop into the Alltel store and ask one of the nice guys to save it to a floppy they give me for free. If I buy a new phone, they always plug both phones into a snake and transfer the phonebook with floppy copy for safe storage as part of the sale....
Larry
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The Ghost of General Lee - 20 May 2007 06:46 GMT >how do folks handle tranferring an ever growing & important phonebook >to a new phone ?? I tend to stay with Kyocera phones, mostly because I like their feature set. So all I have to do is buy a new cable when I get a new phone and the same software (Kyocera Phone Desktop) will sync my contact list and calendar.
klugja@hotmail.com - 21 May 2007 01:02 GMT > On Sat, 19 May 2007 14:57:33 -0500, "P.Schuman" > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > phone and the same software (Kyocera Phone Desktop) will sync my > contact list and calendar. I sync on a continuous basis with Outlook.
I prefer the feature set of Sony Ericsson. The SE phones we have bought lately all come with an Outlook Sync program on a mini-CD. I recently switced my personal phone from a Nokia (TDMA) to an LG 350 (Sprint), so I had to buy Datapilot to sync the LG. It absolutely stinks compared to Intellisync that comes with Sony Ericsson phones, but there is no Intellisync for the LG 350.
Hemant Shah - 22 May 2007 19:53 GMT In alt.cellular.sprintpcs P.Schuman <pschuman_NO_SPAM_ME@interserv.com> wrote:
> how do folks handle tranferring an ever growing & important phonebook > to a new phone ?? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > But this approach doesn't seem to be viable for a lot of phones.... > so - how do you backup, download, or transfer you phone's important data ?? I used to to the same thing, but now I always buy phone with bluetooth and transfer contacts using blue tooth.
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dold@99.usenet.us.com - 22 May 2007 21:38 GMT In alt.cellular.cingular Hemant Shah <shah@typhoon.xnet.com> wrote:
> I used to to the same thing, but now I always buy phone with bluetooth and > transfer contacts using blue tooth. Via Bluetooth, isn't that one contact at a time?
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Hemant Shah - 22 May 2007 23:20 GMT In alt.cellular.sprintpcs dold@99.usenet.us.com wrote:
> In alt.cellular.cingular Hemant Shah <shah@typhoon.xnet.com> wrote: >> I used to to the same thing, but now I always buy phone with bluetooth and >> transfer contacts using blue tooth. > > Via Bluetooth, isn't that one contact at a time? Depends on the phone.
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Todd Allcock - 22 May 2007 23:25 GMT
> Via Bluetooth, isn't that one contact at a time? Bluetooth is a connection method, just like a USB cable. Whether it transfers one or all contacts is up to the software you use. I sync my current PPC phone, and used to sync my last phone, a Nokia 3650, via BT with Outlook on my desktop.
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dold@99.usenet.us.com - 24 May 2007 06:54 GMT In alt.cellular.cingular Todd Allcock <elecconnec@americaonline.com> wrote:
> > > Via Bluetooth, isn't that one contact at a time?
> Bluetooth is a connection method, just like a USB cable. Whether it > transfers one or all contacts is up to the software you use. I sync my > current PPC phone, and used to sync my last phone, a Nokia 3650, via BT > with Outlook on my desktop. I was thinking of what one gets with the standard Windows XP SP2 installation. I should have said "Via Bluetooth OBEX".
Are you adding any additional programs? I have used MPT in the past for sync with Outlook, and Lotus Notes, and just saving data to the MPT .mdb database.
MPT allows multiple profiles, and I have used that to copy contacts from old phones to new, do some sharing of contacts, and key in contact information the PC instead of the phone.
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mikeyhsd - 24 May 2007 13:58 GMT I transferred complete address book between new phones using Bluetooth. option for current or all is available.
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In alt.cellular.cingular Todd Allcock <elecconnec@americaonline.com> wrote:
> > > Via Bluetooth, isn't that one contact at a time? > >
> Bluetooth is a connection method, just like a USB cable. Whether it > transfers one or all contacts is up to the software you use. I sync my > current PPC phone, and used to sync my last phone, a Nokia 3650, via BT > with Outlook on my desktop.
I was thinking of what one gets with the standard Windows XP SP2 installation. I should have said "Via Bluetooth OBEX".
Are you adding any additional programs? I have used MPT in the past for sync with Outlook, and Lotus Notes, and just saving data to the MPT .mdb database.
MPT allows multiple profiles, and I have used that to copy contacts from old phones to new, do some sharing of contacts, and key in contact information the PC instead of the phone.
-- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
Todd Allcock - 24 May 2007 15:00 GMT > I was thinking of what one gets with the standard Windows XP SP2 > installation. I should have said "Via Bluetooth OBEX". > > Are you adding any additional programs? Nokia offers free backup/transfer software (Nokia Phone Suite) and Windows Mobile phones include Microsoft Activesync to sync with Outlook.
> I have used MPT in the past for sync with Outlook, and Lotus Notes, and > just saving data to the MPT .mdb database. > > MPT allows multiple profiles, and I have used that to copy contacts > from old phones to new, do some sharing of contacts, and key in contact > information the PC instead of the phone. I've always used Nokias prior to getting into Windows Mobile phones. The idea of being soaked an extra $30 for backup software is strange to me, but I guess it's always been that way with Motorolas?
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SoCalCommie - 24 May 2007 16:01 GMT The best Bluetooth 'stack' set is Blue Soleil (unfortunately it's not free). XP's built-in one sucks in comparison.
SoCalCommie
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> In alt.cellular.cingular Todd Allcock <elecconnec@americaonline.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5 BruceR - 24 May 2007 21:01 GMT The Widcomm/Broadcom stack is far better than Blue Soliel.
> The best Bluetooth 'stack' set is Blue Soleil (unfortunately it's not > free). XP's built-in one sucks in comparison. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> >> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5 Pegleg - 25 May 2007 02:10 GMT >The Widcomm/Broadcom stack is far better than Blue Soliel. That's what I use on my Axim X51v and it is great!
SoCalCommie - 25 May 2007 14:05 GMT Opinions are like a-holes... everybody's got one. Have you actually used Blue Soeil? If not, shutup!
SoCalCommie
"I'm tired off those comparisons between Hitler and George W. Bush! Hitler was a highly decorated combat veteran who won office by majority vote!" - Jon Stewart
> The Widcomm/Broadcom stack is far better than Blue Soliel. > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >> > >> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5 BruceR - 25 May 2007 22:40 GMT Yes, I have actually used Blue Soliel - for one frustrating week until I was able to convert the dongle to work with the Widcomm stack. If I hadn't I couldn't have a valid opinion on it. I found Blue Soliel to be much more difficult to work with than the Widcomm/Broadcomm stack. Apparently others agree as the price for a dongle with the Widcomm stack is usually a few dollars more. If you're happy with Blue Soleil then that's good for you. Have you ever used the Widcomm stack? If not, rather than tell you to "shutup" I'll just suggest you try it and see for yourself. If you have tried it and didn't like the extremely easy "My Bluetooth Places" interface please tell us what you found to be better in Blue Soleil.
> Opinions are like a-holes... everybody's got one. Have you actually > used Blue Soeil? If not, shutup! [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >>>> >>>> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5 SoCalCommie - 26 May 2007 02:50 GMT Well, first let me apologize for telling you to shutup. That was totally unnecessary on my part. And yes I did try the Widcomm/Broadcom stack and had a lot of trouble connecting my stereo headset and cellphone (connected as a DUN) at the same time (the dongle is version 2.0). I purchased another BT adaptor (version 2.0) that came with Blue Soleil and it worked like BT is supposed to work (PNP). Plus, I love the graphic connection interface! FWIW, I only paid $2.99 + $4.25 S&H for the new dongle/SW off eBay - good 'bang-for-the-buck' IMHO.
SoCalCommie
"I'm tired off those comparisons between Hitler and George W. Bush! Hitler was a highly decorated combat veteran who won office by majority vote!" - Jon Stewart
> Yes, I have actually used Blue Soliel - for one frustrating week until I > was able to convert the dongle to work with the Widcomm stack. If I [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > >>>> > >>>> Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5
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