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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / ATT Wireless / December 2007'iPhone' is 2007's Fastest-Rising Global Search Term, According To Google
'iPhone' is 2007's Fastest-Rising Global Search Term, According To http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/12/iphone-places-s.html I wonder why? Just think Verizon could have had an iPhone and they blew it! Now someone appears to be trying to move their iPhone killer which almost no one wants at auction http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6532/ereea9.jpg LOL 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:6c743fac-bd8e-40f6-b736- 0f284418daff@a35g2000prf.googlegroups.com: > 'iPhone' is 2007's Fastest-Rising Global Search Term, According To > http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/12/iphone-places-s.html > > I wonder why? They're all searching for it like I am to have a big laugh! Hell, the 137,000 page ATT phone bill was the biggest laugh on youtube! Just watching all the WebTV webpages coming out for it is hilarious trying to get the iPhoney customers to pay them for something that's free on other devices, like their laptops. Thanks for the link. Google searches for "iphone" are great fun....(c; Larry  SignatureI found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy, but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag! How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't on sale? 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:6c743fac-bd8e-40f6-b736- 0f284418daff@a35g2000prf.googlegroups.com: > http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/12/iphone-places-s.html http://www.wired.com/gadgets/gadgetreviews/magazine/test2007/st_essay Wired has hit the nail on the head in this article from back in October I missed. Read it then think about your personal experience with ANY carrier. Larry SignatureI found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy, but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag! How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't on sale? > http://www.wired.com/gadgets/gadgetreviews/magazine/test2007/st_essay > > Wired has hit the nail on the head in this article from back in October I > missed. Read it then think about your personal experience with ANY > carrier. NO carrier OTHER THAN Verizon cripples your cell phone itself. Why do you keep harping on this? Ron Chapman <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in news:someone- D01131.11555325122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com: > Why do you keep harping on this? I didn't write the article, unfortunately. EVERY SELLphone is crippled in its basic design, on all carriers. Notice how you can't load programs and run them on ANY carrier's phones? Larry SignatureI found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy, but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag! How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't on sale? > I didn't write the article, unfortunately. EVERY SELLphone is > crippled in its basic design, on all carriers. Again, you're posting from a Verizon/Alltel perspective. Blackberries, WinMo, Symbian, hell even Java-based dumbphones have extensive libraries of user-installable apps. > Notice how you can't load programs and run them on ANY carrier's phones? No, what are you talking about? I've been installing programs, games, browsers, etc. on my phones for years. Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:_accj.480$gt3.236 @fe119.usenetserver.com: > No, what are you talking about? I've been installing programs, games, > browsers, etc. on my phones for years. I apologize. If you can install programs YOURSELF, other than installing programs from the carrier's bootie of approved programs, that's great. I can install programs into my ROKR Z6M, too, but only ALLTEL programs from ALLTEL, not copied off my hard drive. That it will not do. Did you even read his article?.... Larry SignatureI found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy, but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag! How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't on sale? ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.] > I apologize. If you can install programs YOURSELF, other than installing > programs from the carrier's bootie of approved programs, that's great. You really need to educate yourself. Verizon and Alltel use Qualcomm's BREW, which is *designed* to be tightly locked down. Sprint Nextel, T-Mobile and AT&T use Java Mobile Edition. I can't speak for AT&T, but with T-Mo and Sprint I can create a Java M.E. app, put it on my web server with a small text file describing the application, point my phone's web browser at that text file (which describes the app and what files to download), and the carrier will download it over-the-air and install it. I've done it many times over the Internet with Sprint, and only haven't done it with T-Mo because I don't want to pay for T-Mo's slow GPRS Internet access. I've done it with a data cable with T-Mo. And there are plenty of free and low-cost Java Mobile Edition apps available for download from lots of websites. SignatureSteve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol > > No, what are you talking about? I've been installing programs, games, > > browsers, etc. on my phones for years. > > I apologize. If you can install programs YOURSELF, other than installing > programs from the carrier's bootie of approved programs, that's great. Again, it's a feature I look for in a phone and carrier. > I can install programs into my ROKR Z6M, too, but only ALLTEL programs from > ALLTEL, not copied off my hard drive. That it will not do. > > Did you even read his article?.... Yes. As I said, it was interesting, but sounded like it was written by someone who's only ever used Verizon. Everything he's setup his Nokia tablet to do, my WinMo phone does (including run Skype.) Nokia makes uncrippled phones, too, (the N95 for example) but they're GSM and won't work on your Alltel service. (But then again, neither does your N800, without tethering, anyway!) > I apologize. If you can install programs YOURSELF, other than installing > programs from the carrier's bootie of approved programs, that's great. Welcome to the REAL world, tinfoilboy. It's about time you acknowledged what's been going on outside your window for years now. Yes, one carrier cripples its phones. So? I'm sure that one girl turned you down for a date in high school, and that's why you've never dated since. > EVERY SELLphone is crippled in > its basic design, on all carriers. > > Notice how you can't load programs and run them on ANY carrier's phones? You would be wrong. But then, I'm sure you're in the throes of tinfoil poisoning. > Wired has hit the nail on the head in this article from back in October I > missed. It was interesting, but still makes the typical mistake of lumping all carriers together in some kind of unholy alliance. These "insights" are usually written by Verizon (or ex-Verizon) users! > Read it then think about your personal experience with ANY carrier. Some of us actually consider a carrier's openness as part of the selection process. Personally, I use T-Mobile. I realize other carriers offer more coverage and more features, but T-Mo represents an excellent value and has an open network and virtually no TOS restrictions. My experience with T-Mobile... 2001: bought "uncrippled" (but relatively featureless) Voicestream (T-Mo's predecessor) Nokia 8290. It's IR port allowed downloading free ringtones from my PC, and supported tethering my PC or PDA at the blinding speed of 9.6kbps, with no extra cost (other than using minutes.) 2003, upgraded to a T-Mo Nokia 3650. It has uncrippled bluetooth- now I could tether my laptop and PDA without line of sight at GPRS speed (up to 40k!) Woo-hoo! ("free" 9.6k was still available, but I splurged for the $4.99 unlimited data plan) It is a Symbian phone, allowing me access to hundreds of 3rd-party apps, all downloadable and not blocked by my carrier. It includes a typical crummy ponecamera and a memory card slot. Pictures and ringtones can be moved from memory to card or to PC via cable, IR, BT or card reader, all without any restriction. 2005, the ringer on the 3650 craps out, and I buy an unlocked AT&T 3620 (essentially the same phone but with 800-MHz). Runs the same software, and is also uncrippled in anyway. (Surprising, considering it's an AT&T Wireless customized phone- maybe they're open too?) 2006, purchase a T-Mo MDA (T-Mo customized HTC Wizard Windows Mobile 5 phone.) It has uncrippled Wi-Fi, BT, the ability to run thousands of 3rd- party apps, and again, is uncrippled in any way. Frankly, it can do anything a Nokia Tablet can do, AND it's a phone. 2008- awaiting a T-Mo 3G WinMo phone- rumors point to a T-Mo version of the HTC Kaiser (sold by AT&T as the Tilt.) I could buy it unlocked/unbranded now, but why pay $700 now when I can get it unsubsidized later for $300? Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:m4ccj.478 $gt3.96@fe119.usenetserver.com: > It was interesting, but still makes the typical mistake of lumping all > carriers together in some kind of unholy alliance. These "insights" are > usually written by Verizon (or ex-Verizon) users! There IS an unholy alliance. http://www.ctia.org/ They do everything they can to make SURE their members are the ONLY link you have a choice to use through intensive political action and lobbying to stop any initiative that bypasses them and their archaic sell-it-by- the-kilobyte bullshit. Take a look at: http://www.ctia.org/media/press/body.cfm/prid/1728 What do you know about using the phone cameras as code scanners? I've seen this from them before and I understand other countries already have code scanning implemented. Every time I see something about "Scanning" and "Barcodes" these days, I wonder what the motivation behind it is, given the Illuminati government has already pass national ID legislation scheduled for 2008. Will we be scanning our IDs into some Israeli database to identify ourselves, soon? What useful purpose would being able to scan anything be to the privacy of the public? Most interesting........ Larry SignatureI found what I wanted for Christmas at Best Buy, but she wouldn't stop screaming obscenities while we were scanning her and forcing her into the bag! How was I s'posed ta know associate girls weren't on sale? > There IS an unholy alliance. http://www.ctia.org/ Gasp! An industry has a lobbying group? > They do everything they can to make SURE their members are the ONLY link > you have a choice to use through intensive political action and lobbying > to stop any initiative that bypasses them and their archaic sell-it-by- > the-kilobyte bullshit. What archaic sell-by-the-kb BS would that be? T-Mo's $6-20 unlimited data? Sprint's $15-40 unlimited data or Cingular's $20-40? > Take a look at: > http://www.ctia.org/media/press/body.cfm/prid/1728 > What do you know about using the phone cameras as code scanners? That it's a useful feature for data entry, particularly on camera-equipped PDAs? Anyone who's spent $300 on a Compact-Flash based barcode scanner from Symbol would love an essentially free solution. > I've > seen this from them before and I understand other countries already have > code scanning implemented. It also makes mobile shopping easier. Remember Barpoint.com? It was an old WAP service (it used to be on Cingular's WAP deck) that let you enter a UPC code into the WAP browser and get a Pricegrabber/My Simon-like price/product info/reviews search. The idea was that entering a 10-12 digit UPC code was easier to enter on a phone keyboard than "Samsung 61" DLP HDTV." > Every time I see something about "Scanning" and "Barcodes" these days, I > wonder what the motivation behind it is, Um, money? Anything that fcilitates mobile online shopping is good for carriers/the CTIA. > ...given the Illuminati government > has already pass national ID legislation scheduled for 2008. Will we be > scanning our IDs into some Israeli database to identify ourselves, soon? I'm sure YOU think so. Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:m4ccj.478$gt3.96 @fe119.usenetserver.com: > It was interesting, but still makes the typical mistake of lumping all > carriers together in some kind of unholy alliance. These "insights" are > usually written by Verizon (or ex-Verizon) users! Haven't you ever wondered why so few companies are interested in wireless broadband across America and Canada? Companies like: http://www.m2znetworks.com/ Here's why: http://files.ctia.org/pdf/filings/071126 _CTIA_M2Z_Reply_re_Motion_to_Intervene.pdf CTIA, doing EVERYTHING it can to squash ANY WiMAX in this country. Their contention is this 20 Mhz UNUSED spectrum represents some kind of threat to "adjacent users". That's a common ploy of the bigtime broadcasters talking about LPFM stations trying to drive them off the public airwaves. Oh, those nasty bastards that aren't members of NAB should never be allowed to compete with our monopoly. CTIA is to wireless what NAB is to broadcasting....a powerful lobby group to make SURE you don't get any new services THEY don't provide. They file in court to challenge it all, interminably, until the startup company goes bankrupt. That's the conspiracy of it. Larry -- > but T-Mo represents an excellent value and has an open > network and virtually no TOS restrictions. Regarding the open network, Cingular/AT&T has had an open network for a long time now. > Regarding the open network, Cingular/AT&T has had an open network for a > long time now. I thought so, but frankly I haven't used Cingular in over 4 years, and never with GSM. I was impressed, back in the day, that they supported CSD data on TDMA, something that (the old) AT&T Wireless never did. Do they allow CSD now on GSM? It's a great last-resort connection for folks without a (or with a metered) data plan. |
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