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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / ATT Wireless / January 2008Fortune Repoerts Top six multimedia phones from CES
How interesting, no mention of the you-know-what at all. Looks like Apple has been relegated to has-been status once again. http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/fortune/0801/gallery.multimedia_phones. fortune/index.html > How interesting, no mention of the you-know-what at all. Looks like > Apple has been relegated to has-been status once again. Notice no mention of Voyager, either.... I think this article was about SELLphones, not about WebTV mobiles. Larry  SignatureAs the price of Monopoly money rises, at some point it will equal Federal Reserve Private Bank fake banknotes in value! > How interesting, no mention of the you-know-what at all. Looks like Apple > has been relegated to has-been status once again. > > http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/fortune/0801/gallery.multimedia_phones. > fortune/index.html Because CES reports on new products at the show. Apple doesn't exhibit at CES, and even if they did there would be no new iPhone to report on. >> How interesting, no mention of the you-know-what at all. Looks like >> Apple has been relegated to has-been status once again. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > at CES, and even if they did there would be no new iPhone to report > on. What about the much-hyped 3g iPhone? The absence of it speaks volumes. The other thing you failed to catch- in the reviews of the featured phones, there is no mention of or comparison to the iPhone. Proof that it is not the technological standard the Apple geeks would brainwash us into believing. <snip> > What about the much-hyped 3g iPhone? The absence of it speaks volumes. It's not ready yet. The legal issues with W-CDMA is one reason, but the next generation iPhone is adding more than just 3G. > The other thing you failed to catch- in the reviews of the featured phones, > there is no mention of or comparison to the iPhone. Proof that it is not > the technological standard the Apple geeks would brainwash us into > believing. Those comparisons will occur when the new phones are released and evaluated, rather than just being demonstrated by booth bimbos. Just like the LG Voyager trumped the iPhone, these other new phones will do the same. > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > like the LG Voyager trumped the iPhone, these other new phones will do > the same. LG Voyager trumped the iPhone, beg pardon? Look at Phone Scoop where I see even the Verizon fan boys not only acknowledge that it isn't as nice as the iPhone but I see some are abandoning the Voyager near the end of first thirty days because the CONS are too irritating to use for a full two years. Go to Phone Scoop and see for yourself. It used to be fanboyism and but now it is one critical review after another of the Voyager. > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > It's not ready yet. The legal issues with W-CDMA is one reason, but > the next generation iPhone is adding more than just 3G. And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show. >> <snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show. But, again, Apple doesn't attend CES so you're not going to see anything from Apple at that show This is particularly true since Apple runs its own show the week following CES, i.e. http://www.macworldexpo.com/ where they traditionally announce stuff. The iPhone was announceed at this show last year, for example. In any case, if you want to see if Apple is going to show a prototype you'll need to wait until next week to find out. They just wouldn't do this at CES. Dennis Ferguson >> <snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show. You were already told once that Apple doesn't do CES. Try and keep up. I don't blame Apple as CES is now mostly a bunch of vaporware that never sees the light of day. The good stuff, that wouldn't need CES anyway, is drowned out by go-nowhere crap like GM's self-driving car and yet another wristwatch phone/GPS/whatever. SignatureMike > >> <snip> > >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > drowned out by go-nowhere crap like GM's self-driving car and yet another > wristwatch phone/GPS/whatever. The big news is the cellphone picture printer. LOL. SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" On 1/10/08 10:19 AM, in article 5umusaF1infm0U1@mid.individual.net, "Tinman" <ask@for.it> wrote: >>> <snip> >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > You were already told once that Apple doesn't do CES. Try and keep up. How can he since he is nothing 'debris' and blinded by hate for Apple? Makes it difficult to communicate. Where is your compassion for the handicapped? > On 1/10/08 10:19 AM, in article 5umusaF1infm0U1@mid.individual.net, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Makes it difficult to communicate. Where is your compassion for the > handicapped? I don't hate Apples- I hate the senseless fanatacism and fact-stretching exhibited by their fans. You talk of me being blinded- your response shows nothing but a low level of intelligence. A "handicap", if you will. On 1/10/08 6:42 PM, in article Xns9A21B4120667isheforreal@216.196.97.136, >> On 1/10/08 10:19 AM, in article 5umusaF1infm0U1@mid.individual.net, >> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > exhibited by their fans. You talk of me being blinded- your response shows > nothing but a low level of intelligence. A "handicap", if you will. Indication of level of intelligence: 1. "I don't hate AppleS" 2. "exhibited by THEIR fans" All in ONE sentence! Guess you're right, Einstein - you've got it on me. >>> <snip> >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > You were already told once that Apple doesn't do CES. Try and keep up. Actually, Tinboy, the post you are referring to came after the one you just responded to. Try and keep up. > I don't blame Apple as CES is now mostly a bunch of vaporware that > never sees the light of day. The good stuff, that wouldn't need CES > anyway, is drowned out by go-nowhere crap like GM's self-driving car > and yet another wristwatch phone/GPS/whatever. >>> And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Actually, Tinboy, the post you are referring to came after the one > you just responded to. Try and keep up. Wow, you really are clueless. Here's a hint, nitwit, SMS told you this, quoted again below, and it went right through your empty head: SMS wrote: > CozmicDebris wrote: >> How interesting, no mention of the you-know-what at all. Looks like [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > at CES, and even if they did there would be no new iPhone to report > on. SignatureMike > I don't blame Apple as CES is now mostly a bunch of vaporware that never > sees the light of day. Absolutely false. There's very little of that at CES. It's almost entirely new product announcements for what's going to be shipped later in the same year. Apple doesn't go to CES for the same reason they didn't go to Comdex. It's a huge show, and each company gets relatively little attention from the press. It's very expensive to attend, and at the time the show became relevant for computer manufactures, Apple didn't have the money to go. It gives a lot of attention to Microsoft, and Gates has been the keynote speaker for many year. Apple's approach of having Macworld at the same time as CES is a smart marketing move in some ways, but much of the press can't attend because they're at CES. Still as Apple moves more into consumer electronics, and away from their old core business of computers, they will probably decide to attend CES. >> I don't blame Apple as CES is now mostly a bunch of vaporware that >> never sees the light of day. > > Absolutely false. There's very little of that at CES. It's almost > entirely new product announcements for what's going to be shipped > later in the same year. Bullshit. Up until a year ago I attended CES regularly, and know very well of what I speak. You either don't attend, or skip 90% of the exibits. The fact is many of the products shown at CES never make it to production; heck some aren't even meant to, at least in their current form (like this year's auto-driving car). And then there's the stuff that is already on the market--which consists of 50%+ of the products at CES. I don't count those since those are already on the market. DataPlay was "Best of Show" in the blank media category at CES 2001. Never hit the streets. Doubt anyone even remembers it anymore. Back in the '90s there were HiDef TVs shown each year that never made it out to the general public. Last year Wireless HDMI and Dash Express GPS were big hits. Neither made it out last year. Ditto for Sling Catcher. Other products may limp into production only to go nowhere (e.g., Mira/Smart Display). But enough about my opinion. Here's what Rachel Rosmarin, from Forbes, wrote last year about CES: "More than 2,700 exhibitors descend on Las Vegas Monday, each ready to show off their latest and greatest tricks at the annual Consumer Electronics Show. But good luck finding many of the gizmos and gadgets on store shelves: Though CES is supposed to give gearheads a peek at the future, it is often better at displaying "vaporware" - would-be innovations that never materialize. Some of this is par for the course: Much like the auto show that's running concurrently in Detroit, CES is meant to have a fantasy element to it - stuff that ought to be but isn't yet and may never be. The real sin is in showing off what are supposed to be real products to retailers and press, then not delivering." Guess she didn't have the sense to run that article by SMS. SignatureMike SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:47877f68$0$84183 $742ec2ed@news.sonic.net: > Apple doesn't go to CES for the same reason they didn't go to Comdex. So the faithful can come and gawk without competitors wooing the faithful away to something better or CHEAPER? We have a boat dealer here who plays the same game. He NEVER displays at boat shows with his competitors, but has a "special showing" the same weekend the boatshow is going on. That way he doesn't have to answer embarrassing questions about why his boats are so much more money or have less quality or the "Why don't you have this?" questions. It's a different marketing plan to sell overpriced equipment without discounts. Larry SignatureAs the price of Monopoly money rises, at some point it will equal Federal Reserve Private Bank fake banknotes in value! > > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show. prototype iPhone? You looked in all the wrong spots, go to the Intel booth. Smug grin! Apple will switch to Intel chipset for the next iPhone. So logically Intel would be the weak link, like the CEO of AT&T, for leaking Apple insider information before MacWorld. BTW there is a rumor that the current iPhone will go up in price on Feb 1, 2008. The weak dollar? If you are with Verizon and are waiting to get out your contract so you can get an iPhone without an ETF go to this web site immediately and read the steps to take. http://wireddeals.com/deals/web/showdeal/910017 quote in part Get Out of Verizon Wireless ETF Alright guys. First it was the Sprint ETF post, now Verizon Wireless subscribers can get out of their contracts early with no ETF ...This notice is going to appear on your next paper bill... A Wikipost will be added for updates regarding this. quote Notice of Text Messaging Increase If you are not currently subscribed to a Messaging Package, beginning March 2, 2008, the price for sending Text Messages to the U.S., Puerto Rico, Canada and Mexico - as well as the price for receiving Text Messages from anywhere - will increase from $0.15 to $0.20 per message per recipient. The price to send an International Text Message will remain $0.25 per message per recipient. If you do subscribe to a Messaging Package, your package rates will stay the same. For information regarding this change, please visit http://support.vzw.com/faqs/TXT%2...rease.html. Please consult your Customer Agreement for information about rate changes. This only applies to customers like me who aren't in a subscribed messaging package. Since this is a change in contract , you can get out of your contracts early without the ETF fee. end quote excerpt Go there to read the step by step action to take.. http://wireddeals.com/deals/web/showdeal/910017 On Jan 9, 7:45 pm, CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote: > SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote > innews:47856415$0$84189$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > And no matter what, not even a prototype at the show. prototype iPhone? You looked in all the wrong spots, go to the Intel booth. Smug grin! Apple will switch to Intel chipset for the next iPhone. So logically Intel would be the weak link, like the CEO of AT&T, for leaking Apple insider information before MacWorld. BTW there is a rumor that the current iPhone will go up in price on Feb 1, 2008. The weak dollar? If you are with Verizon and are waiting to get out your contract so you can get an iPhone without an ETF go to this web site immediately and read the steps to take. http://wireddeals.com/deals/web/showdeal/910017 quote in part Get Out of Verizon Wireless ETF Alright guys. First it was the Sprint ETF post, now Verizon Wireless subscribers can get out of their contracts early with no ETF ...This notice is going to appear on your next paper bill... A Wikipost will be added for updates regarding this. quote Notice of Text Messaging Increase If you are not currently subscribed to a Messaging Package, beginning March 2, 2008, the price for sending Text Messages to the U.S., Puerto Rico, Canada and Mexico - as well as the price for receiving Text Messages from anywhere - will increase from $0.15 to $0.20 per message per recipient. The price to send an International Text Message will remain $0.25 per message per recipient. If you do subscribe to a Messaging Package, your package rates will stay the same. For information regarding this change, please visit http://support.vzw.com/faqs/TXT%2...rease.html. Please consult your Customer Agreement for information about rate changes. This only applies to customers like me who aren't in a subscribed messaging package. Since this is a change in contract , you can get out of your contracts early without the ETF fee. end quote excerpt Go there to read the step by step action to take.. http://wireddeals.com/deals/web/showdeal/910017 That's only going to work if the user does not have a txt plan. If they send any sms then there in some kind of plan. Verizon est. are less then .05 of users fall in to this plan. |
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