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4phun - 24 Jan 2008 23:25 GMT
Missing iPhone feature added by 3rd party application
http://www.phonemag.com/voice-dial-for-iphone-1-0-01316.php

It allows you to record voice samples for any and all contacts in your
address books then recall them simply speaking the name. Other cool
features include tagging actions like starting email application or
launching web pages via Safari bookmarks, and as well as some Google
Mapping with your voice.
larry - 25 Jan 2008 00:02 GMT
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:f12a8ee3-0e02-4ddc-b94f-
307812b37204@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com:

> Missing iPhone feature added by 3rd party application
> http://www.phonemag.com/voice-dial-for-iphone-1-0-01316.php
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> launching web pages via Safari bookmarks, and as well as some Google
> Mapping with your voice.

What is the procedure for installing SOFTWARE THAT RUNS on an iPhone?  Does
itunes install software on it, now?

Not a slam.  I'm interested because I know someone who asked me and I hate
not knowing.
larry - 25 Jan 2008 06:57 GMT
> 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:f12a8ee3-0e02-4ddc-b94f-
> 307812b37204@s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Not a slam.  I'm interested because I know someone who asked me and I
> hate not knowing.

Hello?  Can anyone tell me?  Please?
Bill Kearney - 26 Jan 2008 15:23 GMT
> What is the procedure for installing SOFTWARE THAT RUNS on an iPhone?
> Does
> itunes install software on it, now?

There is none.  It doesn't support software being installed on it.  And
they've gone to great lengths to cripple efforts otherwise.
Cartwright - 26 Jan 2008 15:42 GMT
> > What is the procedure for installing SOFTWARE THAT RUNS on an iPhone?
> > Does itunes install software on it, now?

None yet. You'll have to wait a few more weeks for that. When Apple
makes the announcement I'm sure it will be posted in here.

It's hard to imagine it but this phone is going to keep getting better
and better. I don't know how I lived without it!
4phun - 26 Jan 2008 16:45 GMT
> > > What is the procedure for installing SOFTWARE THAT RUNS on an iPhone?
> > > Does itunes install software on it, now?
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> It's hard to imagine it but this phone is going to keep getting better
> and better. I don't know how I lived without it!

If it is jailbroken there is an installer icon on your screen. Click
on that and it lists the apps you can install, update or uninstall.
The data comes over edge or wi-fi, no need to be tethered to iTunes to
choose and install FREE apps.

There is a keyboard to be at retail in March for the iPhone. I had a
picture of it a few minutes ago but I must have closed that page out.
It was on display at MacWorld 2008.

Quote one source
"Editor's Note: Macworld Expo 2008 is in the books, but Macworld
editors still have a few reports from the Macworld Expo show floor on
meetings with Mac developers, new product announcements, and anything
else that catches their eye.

Many products you see at Macworld Expo look so much like other ones
you've seen before, it's tempting to pass them by. But doing so means
you sometimes miss out on some very interesting stuff.

For example, MacAlly's $100 BTKeyMini: As you might deduce from its
name--or perhaps not--the BTKeyMini is a small, Bluetooth keyboard,
designed to fold up and carry in your bag. Not terribly interesting,
as I've seen many such keyboards in the past.

But if MacAlly's representatives have been correctly informed, this
keyboard is something special. According to the representative I spoke
with, when the BTKeyMini arrives this March, it will work with the
iPhone, meaning you'll be able to use it to type in any iPhone
application that would normally use an onscreen keyboard. Given that
many, many people have tried to pair various Bluetooth keyboards with
the iPhone, I was surprised by this claim, so I asked again to
confirm. And then I asked a third time. MacAlly assured me I was
understanding correctly."

Another added some additional information

"Re: Expo Notes: A Bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone?
Another vendor at Expo said that Apple was trying to figure out some
sort of licensing model for the iPhone before rolling out Bluetooth
keyboard support -- in other words, a way for Apple to make money on
Bluetooth keyboards for the iPhone.

Interesting to see if the MacAlly person was misinformed or spilling
beans."

Not on the Macally website yet...
http://macally.com/EN/Product/ipod.asp?ipod=iPhone
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 26 Jan 2008 16:51 GMT
In article
<370e0f11-6e09-41e2-91f8-8945eb50e0a1@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

> "Re: Expo Notes: A Bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone?
> Another vendor at Expo said that Apple was trying to figure out some
> sort of licensing model for the iPhone before rolling out Bluetooth
> keyboard support -- in other words, a way for Apple to make money on
> Bluetooth keyboards for the iPhone.

wow, now THAT'S pure greed.
Bob - 26 Jan 2008 16:52 GMT
> In article
> <370e0f11-6e09-41e2-91f8-8945eb50e0a1@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> wow, now THAT'S pure greed.

THAT'S pure Apple.
4phun - 26 Jan 2008 17:10 GMT
> > > > What is the procedure for installing SOFTWARE THAT RUNS on an iPhone?
> > > > Does itunes install software on it, now?
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
>
> Not on the Macally website yet...http://macally.com/EN/Product/ipod.asp?ipod=iPhone

Here is the link to the photo
http://www.iclarified.com/images/news/591/2613/2613.jpg

The keyboard is not physically connected to the speakers and iPhone
which are above it.

It is hard to determine that if you do not know that the speakers are
an existing product that the iPhone plugs into to recharge and pass
audio. The iPhone also mounts horizonally in those speakers for
viewing movies.
larry - 26 Jan 2008 17:52 GMT
>> > > > What is the procedure for installing SOFTWARE THAT RUNS on an
>> > > > iPhone
[quoted text clipped - 66 lines]
> audio. The iPhone also mounts horizonally in those speakers for
> viewing movies.

Hell, for this much money it should have had built in Bozos.

I use a little FM transmitter plugged into the STANDARD mini phone plug
on the Nokia N800 to make it broadcast to my FM in the car.  I can stream
internet radio and hear Navicore's driving instructions, simultaneously.  

I wish it had the little FM transmitter in it instead of its internal FM
stereo receiver that's useless in America, these days.
4phun - 26 Jan 2008 23:26 GMT
> >> > > > What is the procedure for installing SOFTWARE THAT RUNS on an
> >> > > > iPhone
[quoted text clipped - 75 lines]
> I wish it had the little FM transmitter in it instead of its internal FM
> stereo receiver that's useless in America, these days.

The 800 isn't connected to a GSM network since it is a mere internet
tablet wannbe. It isn't a phone, not even CDMA, therefore one  doesn't
have to engineer for RFI getting into the audio.
larry - 27 Jan 2008 01:15 GMT
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:8208e875-71cb-4607-a2f5-
8baa2742fe12@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

> The 800 isn't connected to a GSM network since it is a mere internet
> tablet wannbe. It isn't a phone, not even CDMA, therefore one  doesn't
> have to engineer for RFI getting into the audio.

It's as connected through its SELLphone modem as your WebTV iPhoney
wannabe.  Mine's on Alltel EVDO by choice, not by force.  I don't have to
hack into it to get it to RUN SOFTWARE, either.  Noone gets punished when I
access it as root...er, ah, unless I screw up, then ME!  The loader just
re-installs over my mistakes in a minute or two, then my punishment is
reinstalling ALL the software I'd previously installed from maemo.org or
the other repositories full of freeware I can INSTALL and RUN on it,
without some Apple or ATT bureaucrat's permission, of course:
http://www.gronmayer.com/it/index.php?lang=en&system=maemo3

There must have been SOME reason it was the number one seller on Amazon.com
last Christmas...(c;  I still think that must have been an error, but they
tell me it's true.  

Don't YOU get one or even touch one, though.  I don't wanna spoil your
iPhone fantasy trip into WebTVland.
SMS - 27 Jan 2008 02:30 GMT
>> What is the procedure for installing SOFTWARE THAT RUNS on an iPhone?
>> Does
>> itunes install software on it, now?
>
> There is none.  It doesn't support software being installed on it.  And
> they've gone to great lengths to cripple efforts otherwise.

I was hoping that Jobs would announce voice dialing for the iPhone at
Mac World.

The rumor is that they have voice-dialing almost ready, and due to the
upcoming California law banning handheld phones while driving it's
expected well before July 1, 2008 (when the law takes effect).

How it will work is that you're going to have to upload your iPhone
address book to iTunes, then for 99¢ per contact you can create and
download voice-tags at the iTunes store (it will include up to three
numbers per contact it's not 99¢ per number per contact). They'll also
have some sort of volume pricing, where if you want to buy voice-tags
for your entire address book the price per voice-tag is less, i.e. 100
or more voice-tags will be 10% off.

If you want to use "digit dial" where you say the digits of a phone
number, you can create and download voice tags for each digit you need
for 50¢ per digit (or pay a discounted price of $4.99 for all ten digits).
Kevin Weaver - 27 Jan 2008 02:47 GMT
>>> What is the procedure for installing SOFTWARE THAT RUNS on an iPhone?
>>> Does
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> number, you can create and download voice tags for each digit you need for
> 50¢ per digit (or pay a discounted price of $4.99 for all ten digits).

Those prices are way to high. But I'm sure once no-one pony's up they will
be lowered. For something a lot of phone mfg have built in already.
SMS - 27 Jan 2008 15:52 GMT
>>>> What is the procedure for installing SOFTWARE THAT RUNS on an
>>>> iPhone? Does
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> Those prices are way to high. But I'm sure once no-one pony's up they
> will be lowered. For something a lot of phone mfg have built in already.

It's a joke son. I just remember the thunderous applause when Jobs
announced that for only 99¢, you could use an iTunes song (that you
already paid for) as a ring tone on the iPhone. Surely those that
applauded would be perfectly happy to pay 99¢ per voice tag as well.
larry - 27 Jan 2008 16:00 GMT
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:479ca82e$0$84196
$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> Surely those that
> applauded would be perfectly happy to pay 99½ per voice tag as well.

Undoubtably so.  This message is from Waffle House on my N800 tablet and
Nokia folding BT keyboard via Bluetooth to MotooROKR Z6m on Alltel EVDO
using the Maemo Linux port of rdesktop to  Remote Desktop on my XP box
back home running Pegasus Mail on Knology Cable....(c;)

Try that on an iPhoneee...

Oops, waffle arrives by cute little blonde!  C'ya.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 27 Jan 2008 16:09 GMT
> This message is from Waffle House on my N800 tablet

ohmigod, the picture you just painted is priceless.
SMS - 27 Jan 2008 16:53 GMT
>> This message is from Waffle House on my N800 tablet
>
> ohmigod, the picture you just painted is priceless.

I miss a lot with Larry in my kill-file!

What a shame that Waffle House isn't out west. I ate in one in Florida
last October, and that was enough to last me the rest of my life.
Todd Allcock - 27 Jan 2008 21:29 GMT
> I miss a lot with Larry in my kill-file!

Why would Larry be in your killfile?  The entertainment you miss...


> What a shame that Waffle House isn't out west. I ate in one in
> Florida last October, and that was enough to last me the rest of my life.

And miss out on the world's self-proclaimed largest purveyor of rasin
toast?
SMS - 27 Jan 2008 21:53 GMT
>> I miss a lot with Larry in my kill-file!
>
> Why would Larry be in your killfile?  The entertainment you miss...

Sometimes I get in the mood to kill-file everyone being a jerk on
Usenet, and Larry, with his "SellPhone" schtick finally fell victim to
one of these mass kill-file addition sprees. It makes my newsgroups
reasonably clean for a few weeks, then I have to do it again.

I wish Thunderbird would make it easier to add someone to a kill-file in
 _all_ newsgroups. It can be done, but it takes about 10 seconds per
e-mail address. I also wish that someone would come up with a way to
kill-file based on keywords in the body of the message.

>> What a shame that Waffle House isn't out west. I ate in one in
>> Florida last October, and that was enough to last me the rest of my life.
>
> And miss out on the world's self-proclaimed largest purveyor of rasin
> toast?

I thought that they were the largest purveyor of grits. Grits are pretty
rare in California, but I like them having grown up in Florida.

Actually, considering the dearth of 24 hour restaurants around my area,
maybe Waffle House would be a good addition.
4phun - 28 Jan 2008 00:30 GMT
> >> I miss a lot with Larry in my kill-file!
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Actually, considering the dearth of 24 hour restaurants around my area,
> maybe Waffle House would be a good addition.

I haven't moved an inch  in the last thirty years and yet I now have
over 52 MEXICAN restaurants within a 2 mile radius of mi casa in NW
Metro Atlanta. None of these are open 24 hours but we still have
several Huddle Houses and Waffle Houses open 24 x 7.

And of course there is the hangout for Public Service at the Dunkin
Donuts now run by Indians.

You would think with that change in the poulation there would be zero
high tech demand in this area.
I stopped at the local AT&T store to buy another iPhone a couple of
hours ago and was immediately greeted by a young salesman who know my
name. He was excited as he wanted to show me he had bought an iPhone
for himself. He kept gushing on and on about how awsome it was. This
is the same guy who only three weeks ago had tried to convince me that
I should pick up an AT&T TILT because it was so versatile like a
little computer.

I happened to ask as they rung up the sale if their cellular business
had dropped off with regards the slowing economy and obviously no one
else  would be buying iPhones now. All the men behind the counter
starting saying that it was the hottest cell phone by far at their
store out selling the next nearest cell phone by over two to one. I
guess all these foreigners haven't heard the USA is in a recession
yet.
Todd Allcock - 28 Jan 2008 08:56 GMT
> Sometimes I get in the mood to kill-file everyone being a jerk on
> Usenet,

That'd certainly make Usenet a lonelier place!

> and Larry, with his "SellPhone" schtick finally fell victim
> to one of these mass kill-file addition sprees.

And yet _I_ continue to make it through?  I guess I'm mellowing with age!
;-)

> It makes my newsgroups reasonably clean for a few weeks, then I have
> to do it again.

I haven't bothered with killfiles in a long time.  As the old joke goes,
"even a broken clock is right twice a day."  You never know where a useful
piece of information will show up- even our rabid iPhone fanboy Oxford
would occasionally post a useful link, despite his signal to noise ratio
being worse than that of an old KMart 8-track tape player stored in a
magnet manufacturer's warehouse.

> > And miss out on the world's self-proclaimed largest purveyor of rasin
> > toast?
>
> I thought that they were the largest purveyor of grits.

That too.

> Grits are pretty rare in California, but I like them having grown up in
> Florida.

I never "got" grits.  The logic of naming a food after a synonym for dirt
always escaped me, plus the idea of putting butter on anything that
similar to cereal creeps me out.  But, of course, every region has their odd
"specialties."  I'm from Rhode Island originally, where kids drink coffee-
flavored milk (think chocolate milk, but made with a coffee-flavored syrup,)
cover our hot dogs in a meat sauce made by boiling ground beef, onions,
and celery salt in vegetable oil until it becomes the consistency of silt,
and often choose malt vinegar instead of ketchup as a french fry topping!


> Actually, considering the dearth of 24 hour restaurants around my
> area, maybe Waffle House would be a good addition.

The mere thought of the Waffle House brings to mind the comedy bit by
the late Bill Hicks where he tells of the time when a waitress saw
him reading a book at the Waffle House and instead of asking him "whatcha
readin'?", instead asked "whatcha readin' FOR?" to which he replied
"so I don't have to work at a Waffle House?"
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 27 Jan 2008 16:10 GMT
> This message is from Waffle House on my N800 tablet...
>
> Oops, waffle arrives by cute little blonde!

ohmigod, it keeps getting better.

"Waffle House" and "cute little blonde" in the same sentence?

Now we know what you're all about.  You think (a) the waitresses at
Waffle House qualify to be called "cute", and (b) that we care about
your rantings.
Tinman - 27 Jan 2008 16:28 GMT
>> This message is from Waffle House on my N800 tablet...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Now we know what you're all about.  You think (a) the waitresses at
> Waffle House qualify to be called "cute",

That all depends on how well they bite the tip off of their unfiltered
cigarettes (which in turn requires at least two opposing teeth).

But the visual of redneck Larry stooped over the counter whilst playing with
his grease-covered toy was priceless.

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larry - 27 Jan 2008 03:17 GMT
> How it will work is that you're going to have to upload your iPhone
> address book to iTunes, then for 99½ per contact you can create and
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> for 50½ per digit (or pay a discounted price of $4.99 for all ten
> digits).

God this thing gets funnier every day!  They don't put a common premium
SELLphone feature into a $500 phone so they can SELL IT TO YOU BY THE
NUMBER?!

Come on, people!  How stupid ARE you?!

Question - What does Apple/ATT need to see your contact list for?  What are
they going to do when the sheeple give them his data?  Who will THEY SELL
IT TO?!

Duhh.....stupid sheep...follow the herd.
 
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