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Apple is getting sued over iPhone concepts by Minerva Industries !
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4phun - 25 Jan 2008 00:21 GMT Apple is getting sued over iPhone concepts. Minerva Industries served papers to Apple and satellite phone company Atlantic RT for patent infringement entitled "Mobile Entertainment and Communication Device," where the company was recently awarded the United Sates patent No. 7,321,783 - beating out both firms.
http://www.phonemag.com/iphone-concepts-infringe-us-patent-no-7321783-01366.php
In a six-page formal complaint filed in the Eastern District of Texas on Tuesday, alleged that representatives from Minerva informed Apple of their pending application with United States Patent and Trademark Office covering iPhone concepts.
Bottom line - Minerva thought of it first and has the patented right to the following in the USA...
Document Type and Number: United States Patent 7321783
A mobile entertainment and communication device in a palm-held size housing has a cellular or satellite telephone capable of wireless communication with the Internet and one or more replaceable memory card sockets for receiving a blank memory card for recording data directly from the Internet and, in particular, musical performances that then can be selectively reproduced by the device for the enjoyment of the user, including both audio and visual recordings and reproductions. The device also includes a camera and microphone for recording images and sound within the range of the device that can be wirelessly transmitted, either selectively or automatically to a remote telephone. Further, the device includes sensors for sensing unusual conditions that may also be transmitted to a remote telephone, together with the location of the device as determined by a GPS section of the device.
larry - 25 Jan 2008 00:25 GMT 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:d42b1242-f5c1-4682-8134- d8c6c1e72079@q21g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
> and one or more replaceable memory > card sockets for receiving a blank memory card for recording data > directly from the Internet and, in particular, musical performances > that then can be selectively reproduced by the device for the > enjoyment of the user, including both audio and visual recordings and > reproductions. Whew! For a minute there I thought they had a case! iPhoney I saw don't have "one or more replaceable memory card sockets for receiving a blank memory card”, do they? They ain’t gots nuthin’! You can’t even swap the BATTERY!
Todd Allcock - 25 Jan 2008 01:12 GMT > Apple is getting sued over iPhone concepts. Minerva Industries served > papers to Apple and satellite phone company Atlantic RT for patent > infringement entitled "Mobile Entertainment and Communication Device," > where the company was recently awarded the United Sates patent No. > 7,321,783 - beating out both firms. Hmm. I think RadioShack should sue everyone then- when I was a child, I had a toy channel-14 Walkie-Talkie with an AM transistor radio built in. Truly the first "mobile entertainment and communication device!" ;-)
larry - 25 Jan 2008 07:18 GMT Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:fnbd2s$i35$1 @aioe.org:
>> Apple is getting sued over iPhone concepts. Minerva Industries served >> papers to Apple and satellite phone company Atlantic RT for patent [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > had a toy channel-14 Walkie-Talkie with an AM transistor radio built in. > Truly the first "mobile entertainment and communication device!" ;-) Mine was in 1956, I was 10. There was a real transistor radio kit sold for $12.95 in Popular Science magazine, in the back in the little ads. I begged and begged my father to buy it for me. The transistor was Raytheon's CK-722: http://www.ck722museum.com/ There's one in the Smithsonian. It's a piece of history. My kit had 2 transistors: http://www.ck722museum.com/page44.html This kit was an earlier model. Mine had a red plastic box and crystal earphone and ran off two aa or aaa cells. The CK718s, like it says, were only sold to hearing aid manufacturers, but the CK722 was in my kit, in a bright blue plastic mount with 3 tiny wires coming out the bottom. A red dot showed you where the emitter was. Like the tubes, it plugged into a little socket like it shows because soldering then destroyed them.
When I was 11-12, I used to build Heathkit CB walkie talkie kits: Heath GW-30. They were $20 when they first came out, a 4-transistor superregen transceiver that ran off an expensive 9V big battery: http://www.retrocom.com/ad's&flyers/HEATHKIT%20GW-30%20&%20CB-1.jpg No squelch. It sounded like Niagara Falls listening to its ONE dead channel. We thought it was simply wonderful. Every kid brought me his to build...(c;
The C-5 CB base under it I built, too. It only had one crystal socket, so you laid out your channel crystals on a piece of paper with each crystal labeled so you could swap the front-mounted crystals fast when one of the rich smart a.ses with a Globe or Gonset with a channel switch wanted to change channels....(c; It sounded like Niagara Falls because it's tubes were a regen receiver, too. On its better antenna, you heard about 3 channels simultaneously if it was busy.
Really rich people had Browning Golden Eagles..... http://www.retrocom.com/ad's&flyers/BROWNING%20GOLDEN%20EAGLE.jpg
CB started in 1957. You had to be 18 to get a license. I got one, anyway, as I already had a ham license when I was 11. My mother was terrified I was going to be mistakenly DRAFTED for the Army...(c;
larry - 25 Jan 2008 07:23 GMT Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:fnbd2s$i35$1 @aioe.org:
>> Apple is getting sued over iPhone concepts. Minerva Industries served >> papers to Apple and satellite phone company Atlantic RT for patent [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > had a toy channel-14 Walkie-Talkie with an AM transistor radio built in. > Truly the first "mobile entertainment and communication device!" ;-) I bet your original walkie magazine ad is on: http://www.retrocom.com/
CB was great fun because the sun spot cycle was awful high in 1957 when the FCC screwed up and put them on 27 Mhz ham band....instead of Class A on 465 Mhz UHF the manufacturers said couldn't be produced cheaply enough people would buy them.
Fess up. How many kilowatts was your biggest CB station?.....(c;
Larry 20W1956 They ran out of W's before my buddy Howard got his 20Q1802. He's WA2STR and I still have his original hand-made CB/Ham QSL card on the wall here...
We monitored Channel 11. Walkies were on 14. What was your first CB callsign?
4phun - 26 Jan 2008 16:51 GMT Firm awarded patent on smartphones - Apple, Nokia, RIM, HTC, Sony Ericsson, Samsung, AT&T, Sprint, everyone gets sued Today, January 26, 2008, 25 minutes ago | willpark Did that title just spike your blood pressure? Well it damn sure almost gave us a freakin' stroke.
It seems that the USPTO, in all their patent approving wisdom, has awarded a patent holding firm a patent on a "mobile entertainment and communication device." Okay, the patent title sounds inconspicuous enough, but the patent covers a mobile phone with removable storage, camera, internet connection, and the ability to download video and audio files.
Raise your hand if that patent-description reminds you of the smartphone that you use everyday.
The patent was issued last Tuesday, after which point, the firm promptly filed suit (three different suits, actually) against just about everyone in the mobile phone industry. Apple, Nokia, RIM, Sprint, AT&T, HP, Motorola, Helio, HTC, Sony Ericsson, UTStarcomm, and Samsung are named among the defendants in this case.
To make matter worse, the patent was issued on the premise of a "continuation filing," in which a patent holder apply for a patent to cover technologies that have already emerged and hit the market. Here's the kicker - the patent application was basically a combination of well-known technologies and concepts that were already in use, a patent-practice that the Supreme Court recently ruled does not deserve a patent.
Has anyone over at the USPTO ever heard of "prior art?" Apparently not. A patent on a smartphone?! We still can't believe it.
4phun - 27 Jan 2008 07:34 GMT January 25, 2008 11:37 AM PST Sprint & Verizon to ride the patent gravy train Posted by Marguerite Reardon Sprint Nextel and Verizon Communications both see an opportunity to make a buck on their IP telephony patents after successfully suing Vonage Holdings last year.
On Thursday, Sprint Nextel said in a U.S. District Court in Wichita, Kan., that it was suing four small phone companies. Sprint alleges that Nuvox Communication, BroadVOX Holdings, Big River Telephone, and Paetec Communications are infringing on six of its patents.
Those patents, part of a larger portfolio of patents that cover voice over IP technology owned by Sprint, are the same ones used to successfully sue Vonage. The two companies eventually settled the dispute last year. And Vonage agreed to pay Sprint a total of $80 million, which includes $35 million for past use of the license, $40 million for a fully paid future license, and $5 million in prepayment for services.
Verizon Communications, which won a $120 million settlement from Vonage last year, is also asserting its patent claims. Earlier this month the company filed a suit in the Eastern District Court of Virginia against cable operator Cox Communications for infringing on eight patents that had to do with voice over IP technology. Two of the patents in the Cox case are the same ones Verizon successfully sued Vonage for infringing.
Since Sprint and Verizon have already successfully asserted these patents, it certainly strengthens their new cases. And it's very likely the companies will either win in court or be able to pressure these companies and any other VoIP providers into licensing deals.
This is very good news for Sprint, which would benefit greatly from turning its existing patent portfolio into a cash cow. The beleaguered cell phone carrier has been bleeding customers and is in desperate need of new revenue growth to boost earnings.
Mark Thompson - 27 Jan 2008 02:53 GMT > Bottom line - Minerva thought of it first and has the patented right > to the following in the USA... you can think of anything first, but unless you build a salable product with your idea, the courts rarely rule in your favor.
Bob - 27 Jan 2008 03:28 GMT >> Bottom line - Minerva thought of it first and has the patented right >> to the following in the USA... > > you can think of anything first, but unless you build a salable product > with your idea, the courts rarely rule in your favor. Broadcom says hello.
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