> when Motorola exits the cell phone market?
>
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>
> And we won't see the Motorola charger FAQ and other similar crap anymore.
Unlikely. Everyone thought once the migration to alt.cellular.attws from
alt.cellular.cingular took place that his posts of the
alt.cellular.cingular charter would be history, but he simply moved on
to annoy everyone in alt.cellular.attws, even though it has not
relevance in that group.
Even if Motorola exited the handset business, there would still be
Motorola handsets in use for many years, so the charger "FAQ" would
continue (even though the information in the FAQ is actually incorrect).
Actually, Motorola probably _could_ sell their handset business to a
Chinese supplier, just as IBM sold their PC business to Legend (Lenovo).
A low cost manufacturer, without all the overhead, and able to survive
on thin margins, could do well with it.
That analyst stated the obvious regarding Motorola's problems largely
being caused by the software in their handsets. The radio section of
their handsets has always been excellent, but their user interface has
always lagged Nokia.
Anon E. Muss - 30 Jan 2008 04:28 GMT
>That analyst stated the obvious regarding Motorola's problems largely
>being caused by the software in their handsets. The radio section of
>their handsets has always been excellent, BUT THEIR USER INTERFACE HAS
>ALWAYS LAGGED NOKIA.
(emphasis mine)
If that isn't the understatement of the century, I don't know what is.
SMS - 30 Jan 2008 08:35 GMT
>> That analyst stated the obvious regarding Motorola's problems largely
>> being caused by the software in their handsets. The radio section of
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>
> If that isn't the understatement of the century, I don't know what is.
There was one that beat that out. It was a post by someone trying to get
Motorola Phone Tools to work:
"...for what it is worth, this is a pretty bad piece of software that
needs to be completely over-hauled..."
Of course maybe MPT falls under the same umbrella when the analyst said
that "software" was the problem.
Jar-Jar Binks - 30 Jan 2008 21:23 GMT
It needs to be thrown out! It is one of the worst pieces of software that I
have ever seen.
>>> That analyst stated the obvious regarding Motorola's problems largely
>>> being caused by the software in their handsets. The radio section of
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> Of course maybe MPT falls under the same umbrella when the analyst said
> that "software" was the problem.
SMS - 31 Jan 2008 01:05 GMT
> It needs to be thrown out! It is one of the worst pieces of software that I
> have ever seen.
LOL, well one person in the world thinks it's great. This is also the
only person in the U.S. ever to have experienced the extended GSM
network in the U.S., which has not been deployed in the U.S.. Go figure.
Anon E. Muss - 31 Jan 2008 03:55 GMT
>>> That analyst stated the obvious regarding Motorola's problems largely
>>> being caused by the software in their handsets. The radio section of
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>"...for what it is worth, this is a pretty bad piece of software that
>needs to be completely over-hauled..."
Worse than that -- it is PAYWARE; you have to pay to use that crap. It
is near impossible to sync with bluetooth to your PC.
The FREE Nokia PC Suite and FREE Blackberry Desktop+Device Manager
work superbly.
Jar-Jar Binks - 31 Jan 2008 04:29 GMT
I predict that Navas will attempt to become the leader and moderator of the
attws group and will post his lame charter in the attws group.
Navas is like Rodney Dangerfield... He gets no respect.
SMS - 31 Jan 2008 04:48 GMT
> I predict that Navas will attempt to become the leader and moderator of the
> attws group and will post his lame charter in the attws group.
The group is unmoderated, and no one has been able to find the original
charter, if indeed there ever was one.
No one can change it to a moderated group, and none of the various
charters that individuals have posted have any relevance. Navas has
posted the Cingular charger many times, and others have posted other
charters, but all of them are bogus.
> Navas is like Rodney Dangerfield... He gets no respect.
Navas could rehabilitate himself on Usenet if he truly was interested in
doing so.
DevilsPGD - 31 Jan 2008 07:49 GMT
>Navas could rehabilitate himself on Usenet if he truly was interested in
>doing so.
Change his nick and not act like an a.s?
John Navas - 02 Feb 2008 06:00 GMT
>> Navas is like Rodney Dangerfield... He gets no respect.
>
>Navas could rehabilitate himself on Usenet if he truly was interested in
>doing so.
Pot ... kettle ... :)

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Thomas T. Veldhouse - 04 Feb 2008 20:13 GMT
In alt.cellular.attws John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>> Navas is like Rodney Dangerfield... He gets no respect.
>>
>>Navas could rehabilitate himself on Usenet if he truly was interested in
>>doing so.
>
> Pot ... kettle ... :)
Then quit posting your stinkin' Cingular charter in the attws group and you
won't be labeled as a Pot or a Kettle. Either way ... if you keep doing it,
you are black ... as pitch.
You have been asked nicely to stop, you have been asked sarcastically to stop.
If there was an enforcable charter, we could probbably get your provider to
make you stop, but this is an alt group which pretty much anything goes.
We can't stop you from being an a.shole and ignoring the wishes of
contributors here and apparently, you can't seem to help yourself. I am not
sure what it is that drives you to continue doing what is unwanted and
unneccessary. What will you do if the cingular group drops dead and users
start issuing delete commands ... providers might just drop it and then youw
will be posting your charter in the wrong group for a group that won't even
exist!

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John Navas - 04 Feb 2008 20:30 GMT
>In alt.cellular.attws John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
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>will be posting your charter in the wrong group for a group that won't even
>exist!
Into the twit filter you go.

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Thomas T. Veldhouse - 04 Feb 2008 20:38 GMT
In alt.cellular.attws John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>In alt.cellular.attws John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>>
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>
> Into the twit filter you go.
God you are so immutable. I can't possibly believe that a Wife [or whatever]
would be able to take it ... you must live alone.

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Kevin Weaver - 05 Feb 2008 00:58 GMT
> In alt.cellular.attws John Navas <spamfilter1@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
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> whatever]
> would be able to take it ... you must live alone.
He is lying. He said he put a lot of us in his twit filter, only to reply
when the so-called people talk about him.
His Wife ? Muhahahaha... I do like the or (whatever part) :)
Thomas T. Veldhouse - 05 Feb 2008 13:56 GMT
>> God you are so immutable. I can't possibly believe that a Wife [or
>> whatever]
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> His Wife ? Muhahahaha... I do like the or (whatever part) :)
Well, he is from San Francisco, which increases his odds of "whatever".

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