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It's official--Moto

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Elmo P. Shagnasty - 31 Jan 2008 22:27 GMT
is getting out of the phone biz

http://tinyurl.com/22q5go

Thank God.  Now we'll be out of the Navas biz.
DevilsPGD - 31 Jan 2008 22:39 GMT
>is getting out of the phone biz
>
>http://tinyurl.com/22q5go

Thoughts about whether this will kill the iDEN line entirely, or will it
get transitioned off to another manufacturer?
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 31 Jan 2008 22:48 GMT
> >is getting out of the phone biz
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/22q5go
>
> Thoughts about whether this will kill the iDEN line entirely, or will it
> get transitioned off to another manufacturer?

I had heard that the Nextel spectrum was going back to the gummint--I
presumed that meant that iDEN was going away?
DevilsPGD - 01 Feb 2008 04:25 GMT
>> >is getting out of the phone biz
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>I had heard that the Nextel spectrum was going back to the gummint--I
>presumed that meant that iDEN was going away?

I haven't been keeping up with Nextel specifically, I'm not in their
territory (Canada, TELUS Mike is the local iDEN carrier)

It makes sense that it would happen at some point, the question is just
when.
Jar-Jar Binks - 01 Feb 2008 00:20 GMT
This is really sad news. I love my Motorola KRZR phone even though the
software is very slow. You cannot beat the RF performance.

> is getting out of the phone biz
>
> http://tinyurl.com/22q5go
>
> Thank God.  Now we'll be out of the Navas biz.
Jar-Jar Binks - 01 Feb 2008 00:21 GMT
This is really sad news. I love my Motorola KRZR phone even though the
software is very slow. You cannot beat the RF performance.

> is getting out of the phone biz
>
> http://tinyurl.com/22q5go
>
> Thank God.  Now we'll be out of the Navas biz.
Say What? - 01 Feb 2008 01:47 GMT
> is getting out of the phone biz
>
> http://tinyurl.com/22q5go

Did anyone actually read the press release?

I thought not.

"Company will evaluate alternatives to accelerate the ability of its Mobile
   Device Business to recapture growth and profitability in an expanding
                               global market

    SCHAUMBURG, Ill., Jan. 31 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Motorola, Inc.
(NYSE: MOT) today announced it is exploring the structural and strategic
realignment of its businesses to better equip its Mobile Devices business
to recapture global market leadership and to enhance shareholder value. The
company's alternatives may include the separation of Mobile Devices from
its other businesses in order to permit each business to grow and better
serve its customers."

There is absolutely nothing therein that says Moto is bailing on mobile
devices.  The strongest it gets is that they MAY separate it from their
other businesses in order grow and better serve...

It also mentions the possibility of doing this to RETAIN the strong
personnel they already have.

Jeeez, grab a clue will ya?
clifto - 01 Feb 2008 02:10 GMT
> There is absolutely nothing therein that says Moto is bailing on mobile
> devices.  The strongest it gets is that they MAY separate it from their
> other businesses in order grow and better serve...

Thank you. I was beginning to wonder where the missing part was.

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Elmo P. Shagnasty - 01 Feb 2008 02:21 GMT
> Did anyone actually read the press release?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>     Device Business to recapture growth and profitability in an expanding
>                                 global market

Sure I did.

They spent months of time and hundreds of thousands of dollars to come
up with that particular piece of nonsense, empty-air phrasing.
Todd H. - 01 Feb 2008 02:40 GMT
> is getting out of the phone biz
>
> http://tinyurl.com/22q5go
>
> Thank God.  Now we'll be out of the Navas biz.

Real URL is:
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-31-200
8/0004747288&EDATE
=

It only says that they're considering spinning it off, and really they
should, just like they did semiconductors.  With how much other crap
Motorola still sells, trying to be as nimble as you need to be for the
mobile market with the rest of the stodgy patriarchal leadership
environment the place has is like trying to dance with an elephant on
your back.

Wonder if the market cares or will shrug too-little-too-late?

That said,  I dig my Krazr as well.  Great RF, pokey software as
another person said.    They do have sharp RF mofo's up in Mobile
Devices that's for sure.

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--
Todd H.  
http://toddh.net/
John Navas - 03 Feb 2008 03:09 GMT
>Real URL is:
>http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-31-200
8/0004747288&EDATE
=
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>environment the place has is like trying to dance with an elephant on
>your back.

Yep.  Well put.

>Wonder if the market cares or will shrug too-little-too-late?

Only time will tell.  I personally think Motorola would do better to
make a strategic alliance with a strong Asian partner, as Ericsson did
with Sony.

>That said,  I dig my Krazr as well.  Great RF, pokey software as
>another person said.    They do have sharp RF mofo's up in Mobile
>Devices that's for sure.

My V3xx also has great RF, and software I'd call decent, except for
crashing too often.  That has as much to do with AT&T than with
Motorola, since AT&T won't let Motorola update firmware in AT&T/Cingular
branded handsets.

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SMS - 01 Feb 2008 14:08 GMT
> is getting out of the phone biz
>
> http://tinyurl.com/22q5go
>
> Thank God.  Now we'll be out of the Navas biz.

Huh?

They did the same thing spinning off their processor business into
Freescale. I doubt if they're going to exit the handset business, just
going to sping it into a separate company that can compete in a low
margin business.
John Navas - 03 Feb 2008 03:14 GMT
>They did the same thing spinning off their processor business into
>Freescale. I doubt if they're going to exit the handset business, just
>going to sping it into a separate company that can compete in a low
>margin business.

Actually a matter of agility, not margin.  A big part of the problem at
Motorola is much lower margin than Nokia (e.g., 11.2% versus 16.7%).
<http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/08/22/yourmoney/moto.php>

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