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SMS - 28 Feb 2008 16:41 GMT
"http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jozneUnB0QkRuil3m5wj0ujr0_ZQD8V3DFE01"

"Sprint Nextel said it would begin offering unlimited voice and data
service usage for $99.99 per month."
Anon E. Muss - 28 Feb 2008 18:02 GMT
>"http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jozneUnB0QkRuil3m5wj0ujr0_ZQD8V3DFE01"
>
>"Sprint Nextel said it would begin offering unlimited voice and data
>service usage for $99.99 per month."

This also reportedly includes BIS (<http://tinyurl.com/235py3>)!  This
is huge!
me@privacy.net - 28 Feb 2008 20:01 GMT
>>"http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jozneUnB0QkRuil3m5wj0ujr0_ZQD8V3DFE01"
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>This also reportedly includes BIS (<http://tinyurl.com/235py3>)!  This
>is huge!

If it does include BIS than it IS a good deal? yes?
Tom J - 28 Feb 2008 20:06 GMT
>>> "http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jozneUnB0QkRuil3m5wj0ujr0_ZQD8V3DFE01"
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> If it does include BIS than it IS a good deal? yes?

Maybe - maybe not - have you been watching their subscriber retention
lately?? They are bleeding worse than a stuck hog!!

Tom J
William H. Bowen - 01 Mar 2008 18:30 GMT
>>"http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jozneUnB0QkRuil3m5wj0ujr0_ZQD8V3DFE01"
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>This also reportedly includes BIS (<http://tinyurl.com/235py3>)!  This
>is huge!

According to the conversation I had with Sprint Customer Service
yesterday (2/29) the only thing NOT included is "Phone as Modem".

The young lady I talked with in CS yesterday told me management has
told them to expect the rollout of a number of blockbuster service
offerings in the next 30~45 days.

Regards,
 Bill Bowen
 Sacramento, CA
Larry - 01 Mar 2008 22:02 GMT
> According to the conversation I had with Sprint Customer Service
> yesterday (2/29) the only thing NOT included is "Phone as Modem".

Makes sense.  Unlimited data to the PHONE is damned near useless because
the PHONE can't do anything but the simplest of webpages and email.  If
they turn the MODEM function off, they don't have to worry about you
actually USING all that "unlimited" bandwidth for a real
computer....streaming, sharing, downloading, uploading, and all those nasty
computer things that use BANDWIDTH that PHONES are designed NOT to do.

How many gigs/month does WAP or some phone browser lacking javascript,
Flash, Java, media players and codecs, file transfers, etc. use, anyways?  
100MB?  200?

My N800 tablet Bluetoothed to the MotoROKR Z6m DUN used 94GB last month,
according to the detailed bill from Alltel.....and noone complained for
$25.
Scott in SoCal - 02 Mar 2008 01:00 GMT
>> According to the conversation I had with Sprint Customer Service
>> yesterday (2/29) the only thing NOT included is "Phone as Modem".
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>computer....streaming, sharing, downloading, uploading, and all those nasty
>computer things that use BANDWIDTH that PHONES are designed NOT to do.

Hmm... I wonder how something like a Sierra Wireless AirCard looks to
the system? If it looks like a phone, perhaps they left a loophole
like Cingular did a few years back with their $19.95/month Media Works
plan...
Paul Miner - 02 Mar 2008 01:57 GMT
>Hmm... I wonder how something like a Sierra Wireless AirCard looks to
>the system?

It's correctly identified as a data card, not a handset.

>If it looks like a phone, perhaps they left a loophole
>like Cingular did a few years back with their $19.95/month Media Works
>plan...

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Larry - 02 Mar 2008 03:13 GMT
> Hmm... I wonder how something like a Sierra Wireless AirCard looks to
> the system? If it looks like a phone, perhaps they left a loophole
> like Cingular did a few years back with their $19.95/month Media Works
> plan...

Dream on...(c;
Bill T - 02 Mar 2008 03:16 GMT
> Hmm... I wonder how something like a Sierra Wireless AirCard looks to
> the system? If it looks like a phone, perhaps they left a loophole
> like Cingular did a few years back with their $19.95/month Media Works
> plan...

Sprint charges $60 for unlimited WWAN access (e.g. with an Aircard), so
there is no reason to pay $100 for it.  Since the unlimited plan is
locked to one cellphone number, it's not possible to game the system by
using the Card and a phone on the same plan.

Bill
Larry - 02 Mar 2008 17:30 GMT
Bill T <wctom1@pacbell.net> wrote in news:47ca1727$0$19527
$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com:

>> Hmm... I wonder how something like a Sierra Wireless AirCard looks to
>> the system? If it looks like a phone, perhaps they left a loophole
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Bill

Wow...That's kinda high!  I'm paying Verizon $25/mo for EVDO to my Nokia
N800 from the ROKR Z6m as a BT modem.  $60 is over DOUBLE!

The trouble with Aircards is you have to buy another phone number you can't
use for anything plus pay for broadband.  It's a scam.

Plug your sellphone into your laptop or bluetooth it....much cheaper!  Just
buy unlimited data service, which I think Sprint also sells for around
$25/mo more than the sellphone bill.

You can also use it for the crappy stuff on the phone, if you like.
DTC - 03 Mar 2008 02:16 GMT
> Wow...That's kinda high!  I'm paying Verizon $25/mo for EVDO to my Nokia
> N800 from the ROKR Z6m as a BT modem.  $60 is over DOUBLE!
>
> The trouble with Aircards is you have to buy another phone number you can't
> use for anything plus pay for broadband.  It's a scam.

If you could replace the aircard with a tethered phone and still
maintain same functionality, then it may be a scam. But you can't so
it isn't.

> Plug your sellphone into your laptop or bluetooth it....much cheaper!  Just
> buy unlimited data service, which I think Sprint also sells for around
> $25/mo more than the sellphone bill.

You're thinking of the Sprint data plan that is $59 per month and the
plan is expressly designed for laptop access. Tethering a phone is
against the TOS.
Larry - 03 Mar 2008 06:12 GMT
DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:QcJyj.10828$Mw.364
@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com:

> If you could replace the aircard with a tethered phone and still
> maintain same functionality, then it may be a scam. But you can't so
> it isn't.

I'll bite.  What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a laptop
plugged into a sellphone can't?

Please don't tell me you can use the aircard as a sellphone if you plug a
headset into the side of your computer....please.  That's a joke!
DTC - 03 Mar 2008 06:33 GMT
> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:QcJyj.10828$Mw.364
> @nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I'll bite.  What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a laptop
> plugged into a sellphone can't?

How many Verizon and Sprint phones are running CDMA Rev A at the moment?
4phun - 03 Mar 2008 08:29 GMT
> > DTC <m...@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:QcJyj.10828$Mw.364
> > @nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com:
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> How many Verizon and Sprint phones are running CDMA Rev A at the moment?

BTW Blackberry users must pay $20 more to Sprint each month for this
'unlimited' feature since it costs Sprint  if they use the Blackberry
servers, ie unlimited BB is $119 at Sprint.
The Bob - 04 Mar 2008 02:03 GMT
> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:QcJyj.10828$Mw.364
> @nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I'll bite.  What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a laptop
> plugged into a sellphone can't?

Operate within the TOS on the Sprint network.

> Please don't tell me you can use the aircard as a sellphone if you
> plug a headset into the side of your computer....please.  That's a
> joke!

And why would it be a joke?
Larry - 04 Mar 2008 03:58 GMT
>> I'll bite.  What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a laptop
>> plugged into a sellphone can't?
>
> Operate within the TOS on the Sprint network.

What the hell kind of answer is that?  Sprint doesn't allow tethering?  You
need a new carrier!
The Bob - 04 Mar 2008 04:01 GMT
>>> I'll bite.  What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a
>>> laptop plugged into a sellphone can't?
>>
>> Operate within the TOS on the Sprint network.
>
> What the hell kind of answer is that?  

The correct one.

> Sprint doesn't allow tethering?

A well documented scenario.

>  You need a new carrier!

Why?  Where did I say that I carry a Sprint phone?
Jack Hamilton - 04 Mar 2008 04:45 GMT
>>> I'll bite.  What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a laptop
>>> plugged into a sellphone can't?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>What the hell kind of answer is that?  Sprint doesn't allow tethering?  You
>need a new carrier!

Yes, they do.  You just have to pay for it.  They call it Phone As
Modem (PAM).
The Bob - 04 Mar 2008 04:50 GMT
>>>> I'll bite.  What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a
>>>> laptop plugged into a sellphone can't?
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Yes, they do.  You just have to pay for it.  They call it Phone As
> Modem (PAM).

That would be correct.     I stand corrected in my statement,
DTC - 04 Mar 2008 06:39 GMT
>>>> I'll bite.  What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a laptop
>>>> plugged into a sellphone can't?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Yes, they do.  You just have to pay for it.  They call it Phone As
> Modem (PAM).

$39.99 PAM Plan which is unlimited, but they don't have any Rev A
phones, so a data card is better (with a $59.99 plan).
Dutch - 04 Mar 2008 13:54 GMT
While dumping the alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.sprintpcs bit bucket,
I heard DTC say:

>>>>> I'll bite.  What can an Aircard plugged into a laptop do that a laptop
>>>>> plugged into a sellphone can't?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> $39.99 PAM Plan which is unlimited, but they don't have any Rev A
> phones, so a data card is better (with a $59.99 plan).

On the other hand, the PAM plan can be started and stopped at will,
while the data card commits you to 2-year contract. The value of the
trade-offs either way would depend on your own usage of course.

Signature

Dutch

DTC - 04 Mar 2008 13:59 GMT
> On the other hand, the PAM plan can be started and stopped at will,
> while the data card commits you to 2-year contract. The value of the
> trade-offs either way would depend on your own usage of course.

Good point, I forgot about that. When I do add that kind of
"feature" (depending on what carrier calls such an add-on), I
state or ask very clearly that I can use it month to month.
With all the stories floating around with people getting
their contract extended for the smallest things...
Dutch - 04 Mar 2008 14:13 GMT
While dumping the alt.cellular.attws,alt.cellular.sprintpcs bit bucket,
I heard DTC say:

>> On the other hand, the PAM plan can be started and stopped at will,
>> while the data card commits you to 2-year contract. The value of the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> With all the stories floating around with people getting
> their contract extended for the smallest things...

Yep, that's definitely something you want to make clear up front. I
think some of the data card plans allow for a suspension of service for
some period of time, but it gets added on the other end.

Signature

Dutch

Jar-Jar Binks - 04 Mar 2008 04:59 GMT
>> Please don't tell me you can use the aircard as a sellphone if you
>> plug a headset into the side of your computer....please.  That's a
>> joke!
>
> And why would it be a joke?

What is a "Sellphone"? Is that like when you go into a cellular phone store
and they sell you a phone?

Jar-Jar
Larry - 04 Mar 2008 05:23 GMT
> What is a "Sellphone"? Is that like when you go into a cellular phone
> store and they sell you a phone?
>
> Jar-Jar

That would be the wireless phone in your pocket that nickel and dimes you
to death, charging you by the month for the simplest of applications like
copying your pictures to your PC or transferring the tiniest messages on
the planet for $900,000 per gigabyte.

Everything a SELLphone does is to SELL you something more.....TV, music,
messages, internet, ad nauseum.....

It's like a goddamned box office in your pocket!
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 04 Mar 2008 10:49 GMT
> > What is a "Sellphone"? Is that like when you go into a cellular phone
> > store and they sell you a phone?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> That would be the wireless phone in your pocket that nickel and dimes you
> to death,

Just like the one you carry--eh, Larry?
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 04 Mar 2008 10:48 GMT
> > Please don't tell me you can use the aircard as a sellphone if you
> > plug a headset into the side of your computer....please.  That's a
> > joke!
>
> And why would it be a joke?

Because Larry's never seen it happen at the Waffle House.
Al  Bundy - 06 Mar 2008 15:53 GMT
I thought you had service with  with Alltel but you get billed from Verizon,
Do you even know what you have?
Al

> Bill T <wctom1@pacbell.net> wrote in news:47ca1727$0$19527
> $9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com:
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> You can also use it for the crappy stuff on the phone, if you like.
Scott in SoCal - 02 Mar 2008 20:05 GMT
>> Hmm... I wonder how something like a Sierra Wireless AirCard looks to
>> the system? If it looks like a phone, perhaps they left a loophole
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>locked to one cellphone number, it's not possible to game the system by
>using the Card and a phone on the same plan.

In that case, they had better tell Sierra Wireless to stop putting
those headset jacks into their AirCards. The one I have is capable of
making voice calls just like a regular voice handset.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 28 Feb 2008 18:27 GMT
> "http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jozneUnB0QkRuil3m5wj0ujr0_ZQD8V3DFE01"
>
> "Sprint Nextel said it would begin offering unlimited voice and data
> service usage for $99.99 per month."

plus taxes and garbage fees, right up to $120/month.

Whoopee.
SMS - 29 Feb 2008 04:22 GMT
>> "http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jozneUnB0QkRuil3m5wj0ujr0_ZQD8V3DFE01"
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Whoopee.

But a bit less than Verizon and AT&T charge for the same thing. If you
can live with Sprint's coverage, it's a comparatively good price.
Jar-Jar Binks - 29 Feb 2008 20:14 GMT
Sprint actually has very good coverage because you can force your phone to
roam on Verizon anytime that you like. NO other cell phone service provider
gives you that capability.

>>> "http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jozneUnB0QkRuil3m5wj0ujr0_ZQD8V3DFE01"
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> But a bit less than Verizon and AT&T charge for the same thing. If you can
> live with Sprint's coverage, it's a comparatively good price.
TeddeLI - 29 Feb 2008 20:38 GMT
Jar-Jar Binks brought next idea :
> Sprint actually has very good coverage because you can force your phone to
> roam on Verizon anytime that you like. NO other cell phone service provider
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> But a bit less than Verizon and AT&T charge for the same thing. If you can
>> live with Sprint's coverage, it's a comparatively good price.

If Sprint's coverage was adequate you would not have to force roam.
Liberal's HATE America!! - 01 Mar 2008 23:49 GMT
> "http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jozneUnB0QkRuil3m5wj0ujr0_ZQD8V3DFE01"
>
> "Sprint Nextel said it would begin offering unlimited voice and data
> service usage for $99.99 per month."

Well since Sprint is the worst carrier on Earth, by far, this won't help
them much.
William H. Bowen - 03 Mar 2008 03:14 GMT
>> "http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jozneUnB0QkRuil3m5wj0ujr0_ZQD8V3DFE01"
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Well since Sprint is the worst carrier on Earth, by far, this won't help
>them much.

And on what do you base that statement? Your own experience, coverage,
customer service or ?? Worst compared to??

I'll grant you that the coverage by each carrier in a particular area
may not be as good as another carrier, and I'll also inform you that
AT&T and Verizon, as the older carriers going back to the AMPS days of
the '80s, have an advantage in that they where able to nail down sites
before the NIMBY opposition and the "we'll all die from radio waves"
scare mongering started up in the '90s. The 1800/1900 MHz PCS spectrum
auction (the spectrum T-Mobile & Sprint use) did not happen until 1995
and the systems where not sited until a couple of years later. I know
- I was working for Bell South in those days.

All that having been said, I've been in many areas where my Sprint
phone works and my girlfriend's Verizon phone is in Roam.

Be careful when you make branket statements - some might light that
blanket up :))

Regards,
 Bill Bowen
 Sacramento, CA
SHECLabs - 05 Mar 2008 16:29 GMT
> "http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jozneUnB0QkRuil3m5wj0ujr0_ZQD8V3DFE01"
>
> "Sprint Nextel said it would begin offering unlimited voice and data
> service usage for $99.99 per month."

We are offering 40 USD flat fee all you can call and SMS
www.xgtechnology.com
Larry - 05 Mar 2008 20:11 GMT
SHECLabs <mdandml@hotmail.com> wrote in news:868fc44a-b4dc-45c1-b961-
6d6a6941016f@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com:

> We are offering 40 USD flat fee all you can call and SMS
> www.xgtechnology.com

Where does it say that?  There's not a single mention of PRICE anywhere on
those webpages.....
Jar-Jar Binks - 05 Mar 2008 23:25 GMT
It is a SCAM and a SPAMMER. I removed the URL of the spammer as to not
proliferate the spam.

> SHECLabs <mdandml@hotmail.com> wrote in news:868fc44a-b4dc-45c1-b961-
> 6d6a6941016f@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
>
>> We are offering 40 USD flat fee all you can call and SMS

> Where does it say that?  There's not a single mention of PRICE anywhere on
> those webpages.....
 
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