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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / ATT Wireless / March 200816GB iPhone demand causing shortage
Based on checks at both American and German Apple retail locations, Apple seems to be experiencing a widespread shortage of 16 gigabyte model iPhones. Apple's web site seems to confirm this, as the online store currently lists a five to seven day shipping time on the 16 gigabyte model. According to iFun, T-Mobile Germany is not currently offering the 16 gigabyte version and company representatives have estimated that the shortage may last until May. Separate checks on the availability of the 32 gigabyte iPod touch models showed the unit to be widely available and suggest that the shortage of 16 gigabyte model iPhones is attributable to high demand. > Based on checks at both American and German Apple retail locations, > Apple seems to be experiencing a widespread shortage of 16 gigabyte [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > showed the unit to be widely available and suggest that the shortage of > 16 gigabyte model iPhones is attributable to high demand. Sounds like production problems to me. There certainly aren't thousands of customers banging down the doors to get one. > Sounds like production problems to me. There certainly aren't > thousands of customers banging down the doors to get one. Naw, it's the same iPhone. They either had blank spaces for more memory not populated on the original, or have swapped the 4GB chips for 8GB or 16GB chips. The difference between the old and new is just which memory chips are soldered onto the board where you cannot change them or upgrade them. They shoulda been STANDARD card slots. But, then a memory upgrade scam wouldn't cost each customer $500, would it?....(c; No Glitzies want to be caught dead with an "old" 4GB or 8GB, now obsolete iPHone. How horrible! The shame on the family and all.... They'll all "upgrade" and buy a new one, right? 3 months from now, we'll be dumping the 16-bit iPhones for the 32-bit iPhones. Six months away those will be dumped into the landfill when Apple comes out with the 32-bit 3G iPhone. It's a bloatware progression.... They're gonna need lots more memory to store the bloatware graphics for the 3rd party developers. Check out the size of the memory used in a brand new, unloaded Mac Air notebook. It's OSX, too, you know... > > Sounds like production problems to me. There certainly aren't > > thousands of customers banging down the doors to get one. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > 3rd party developers. Check out the size of the memory used in a brand > new, unloaded Mac Air notebook. It's OSX, too, you know... No one will ever dump the iPhone. They would make an excellent GO Phone in the AT&T lineup and as so the demad will remain high even when they are obsolete. > Sounds like production problems to me. There certainly aren't thousands > of > customers banging down the doors to get one. A 5-7 day backlog sounds like extraordinary inventory & production management to me. If you've got a really hot product, and can keep the delay manageable, you probably enhance, rather than detract from, its popularity. You can't keep that sort of thing up very long, but most are going to be hang in there for that 5-7 days, and the anticipation is going to get them all the more excited about the product. Plus you get all the news stories about it being such a hot product that you can't keep it in stock. --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA >> Based on checks at both American and German Apple retail locations, >> Apple seems to be experiencing a widespread shortage of 16 gigabyte [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > of > customers banging down the doors to get one. >> Sounds like production problems to me. There certainly aren't >> thousands of [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > www.ChainReaction.com > Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA A great inventory and production environment, for sure. The problem is tht Apple doesn't make money from that aspect of the company. And while Inventory and production people are cheering all over the globe, salespeople are selling a fraction of what they would with inventory in stock. This inventory pattern is far from new in the business world. It gerenally resides with products whose relevence in their market has waned. Products that a company is not confident enough in to have ample inventory on hand to sell. Someone telling 5-7 days in today's market has just lost my complete interest in their product. I can go down the road and find a perfectly acceptable replacement phone that functions better for half the cost. I might have to give up a few useless bells and whistles, but that's the way the market is these days. If you can't satisfy this culture's need for immediate gratification, you become dispoable as an option real quick. > >> Sounds like production problems to me. There certainly aren't > >> thousands of [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > If you can't satisfy this culture's need for immediate gratification, you > become dispoable as an option real quick. It's extremely difficult to judge demand for a brand new product. With the release of the Star Wars Episode I, there were a number of companies that almost went, or did go, bankrupt simply because they badly over-estimated the demand for licensed products. There are of course people who will go elsewhere, but there are also those who are wiling to wait for the better quality product (in their opinion), and even some who will consider a waiting list the proof of a better product. Hence the waiting lists for high-end cars like Ferrari ... hell, there are people putting their names on the waiting list for the new Fiat 500. Anybody <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in news:170320081833367072% anybody@anywhere-anytime.com: > ... hell, there are people putting their names on the waiting list for > the new Fiat 500. Hope it runs better than the original I had. It was a PoS! > A 5-7 day backlog sounds like extraordinary inventory & production > management to me. If you've got a really hot product, and can keep the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > get all the news stories about it being such a hot product that you > can't keep it in stock. If you "create" a shortage on your hot product, they'll stand in line for hours to pay full retail much longer before you have to start the price cutting to keep the cashflow up. The car companies have played this game for years. The little Smart Car is about to be introduced, finally, into the USA. They are hyping the hell out of its short supply, even though the cars are old in Europe and Asia and have been around for years. There are waiting lists, just like there were for the BMW Mini a few years ago. It's an old game. Apple is a prime player since the Apple II. > It's an old game. Apple is a prime player since the Apple II. Balderdash. I have owned Apple computers some 1984 and have NEVER had to wait for any type of false shortage. You sir are just flat out lying. > > It's an old game. Apple is a prime player since the Apple II. > > Balderdash. I have owned Apple computers some 1984 and have NEVER had to > wait for any type of false shortage. You sir are just flat out lying. I agree with as I've been much the same. Safe to say that most of the posters here hadn't even been born in '84. :-)  SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" >> > It's an old game. Apple is a prime player since the Apple II. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I agree with as I've been much the same. Safe to say that most of the > posters here hadn't even been born in '84. :-) I was out of college and programming on Apples by '84. > >> > It's an old game. Apple is a prime player since the Apple II. > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > I was out of college and programming on Apples by '84. Little earlier for me, but no programming. :-) SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> amazed us all with the following in news:labolide-94B950.08015818032008@news.giganews.com: > In article <newt-3152C7.18391217032008@news.giganews.com>, > Wayne Newton <newt@nomail.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I agree with as I've been much the same. Safe to say that most of the > posters here hadn't even been born in '84. :-) I have to agree too. I've been using Apple since the Apple ][ days as well and the only Apple equipment I've ever had a waiting period for was the very first Intel iMacs. One of our older iMacs had been stolen and there were none available as a replacement (at least according to the supplier we had to use), so we had to wait a little while for the release of the of the new model. iPhone News <invalid@nospam.net> wrote in news:invalid- C974AA.10393216032008@news.giganews.com: > Separate checks on the availability of the 32 gigabyte iPod touch models > showed the unit to be widely available and suggest that the shortage of > 16 gigabyte model iPhones is attributable to high demand. They're all getting ready for the OSX bloatware Apple has promised from the 3rd party developers paying for the priviledge. All those graphic toys gotta be stored "somewhere"....now on the most expensive non-volatile memory on Earth. 16GB SDHC Class 6 Turbo memory is $59 at Newegg.com last week: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211245 ....simply unbelievable. That's only half a tank of gas in a Hummer. The movie and music selection list on the 32GB Nokia N800 Linux tablet has grown exponentially....(c; The two 8GB cards are loaded with more in my carrying case. I don't have to discard my memory investment just because of an upgrade. It even hot swaps! I wonder how many terabytes of still usable iPhone memory will go to the landfill because of this marketing trick of ever-expanding memory versions sold in little pieces...?? If it only had a simple card slot you wouldn't have to throw this commodity in the trash. I'd be very interested to look at an iPhone PC board original and new to see if the old version had an extra, unused location for more memory. That would make sense as it would save them from redesigning a new board just to satisfy the marketing trickery. 4GB has 1 chip, 8GB - 2, 16GB - 3, 32GB - 4. Make the boards with 4 surface mount lands but only populate what they'll pay for. Are there any blank spaces on the original iPhone boards? If so, the OS should be able to detect simply adding more chips....or replacing the 4GB chips with 8GB chips or 16 GB chips if there's only 2. 32GB is probably the limit of the 16-bit motherboard. |
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