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AT&T Disables Free iPhone Wi-Fi

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4phun - 04 May 2008 21:24 GMT
AT&T Disables Free iPhone Wi-Fi

Too many turds who did not have iPhones tried to use free WiFi with
simple hack.
Read more here: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1067
Larry - 05 May 2008 03:00 GMT
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:e1255cfa-95f5-4a36-9bca-
7ccdca5dd2b3@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

> AT&T Disables Free iPhone Wi-Fi
>
> Too many turds who did not have iPhones tried to use free WiFi with
> simple hack.
> Read more here: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1067

That's not a hack.  Hacking requires skill.  This is not skill....(c;

All this is crazy.  They need to port Aircrack-ng to the iPhoney.  30
seconds and you have the WEP code on all of them...(c;

Of course, N770/8xx Linux tablet owners already have Aircrack-ng
available...I'm told....(c;
Scott in SoCal - 06 May 2008 15:47 GMT
>4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:e1255cfa-95f5-4a36-9bca-
>7ccdca5dd2b3@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
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>
>That's not a hack.  Hacking requires skill.  This is not skill....(c;

A simple hack requires less skill. :)
SMS - 05 May 2008 08:54 GMT
> AT&T Disables Free iPhone Wi-Fi
>
> Too many turds who did not have iPhones tried to use free WiFi with
> simple hack.
> Read more here: http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1067

It doesn't make sense what AT&T did, since basing free access on the
user agent data would also allow all the non-AT&T iphones to use the
free network. All they need to do is to create accounts for each iPhone
customer to use their Wi-Fi network.
Todd Allcock - 05 May 2008 22:27 GMT
>> AT&T Disables Free iPhone Wi-Fi
>>
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> network. All they need to do is to create accounts for each iPhone
> customer to use their Wi-Fi network.

That seemed to be their intent, but they just half-assed it.  A legit AT&T
iPhone phone number was also required (besides the user-agent) as a login.
Of course, that allowed anyone who knew anyone's iPhone number to get access
after editing their laptop or smartphone's UA.

As you said, creating actual accounts for each user would be smarter way to
do it (like T-Mo does for their "free Hotspots" access for T-Mo data
customers- you just use the phone number as a login name plus a password to
gain access- the default is the customer's last 4 of the SSN, but they can
change it at first login.)  Of course, this would still allow "abuse" by the
iPhone owners themselves- they could still get their laptops on line by
editing the UA, but they'd probably be less likely to give an account
password to friends and acquaintances, so the "abuse" would be essentially
limited to the same people AT&T wanted to give the perq to in the first
place.  (This isn't a problem for T-Mo, since they allow their phone data
customers to use the Hotspots for their laptops and other equipment, as
well, albeit with only one device at a time- multiple simultaneous logins
aren't allowed.)

Is it just me, or is access to the AT&T Hotspot network just not that
precious a commodity to believe it was suddenly overrun with "UA hackers" to
the point that AT&T felt they had to stop access altogether, rather than
just put up with it for a few days while they instituted a smarter login
policy?  As a T-Mo customer for over six years (without the necessary level
of internet plan to get free Hotspot access) I've been bombarded with bill
stuffers giving me free trial days, weekends, weeks, etc. of T-Mo Hotspot
access, and I've never used them, just because I didn't find myself at a
Hotspot during the promo periods.  (I don't do Starbucks very often- only
when dragged their by someone else.  I'm more of a "cuppa Joe" guy myself.)

I knew about the UA hack (I have it "REM-med" in my registry for quick
switching on my WinMo phone to check out "iPhone-only" sites,) and a friend
of mine has an iPhone so I have his number.  Despite being armed with this
dangerous info, I didn't feel compelled to race to a Starbucks just to cheat
AT&T out of 30 minutes of Hotspot access!
SMS - 05 May 2008 22:46 GMT
> Is it just me, or is access to the AT&T Hotspot network just not that
> precious a commodity to believe it was suddenly overrun with "UA
> hackers" to the point that AT&T felt they had to stop access altogether,
> rather than just put up with it for a few days while they instituted a
> smarter login policy?

I'm sure you're correct about this. Plus can't you get two hours of
access a day by buying a Starbucks card of any value?

> I knew about the UA hack (I have it "REM-med" in my registry for quick
> switching on my WinMo phone to check out "iPhone-only" sites,) and a
> friend of mine has an iPhone so I have his number.  Despite being armed
> with this dangerous info, I didn't feel compelled to race to a Starbucks
> just to cheat AT&T out of 30 minutes of Hotspot access!

The User Agent hack is very useful in my area because the free municipal
 WiFi provider requires that Windows users install and launch MSN
SideGuide in order to access the network. It's an extremely annoying
program that slows down an already agonizingly slow network, plus uses a
lot of CPU power on the PC (when I used to launch SideGuide, everything
slowed down, and the CPU fan on the notebook would come on).

With the Firefox User Agent Switcher add-on all you have to do is make
the WiFi network think you're on a Mac or on a Linux machine, and the
requirement for SideGuide is eliminated.
iPhone News - 05 May 2008 23:27 GMT
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1067

This is only temporary. AT&T started rolling out the service prematurely
and will enable it again shortly.
Larry - 05 May 2008 23:34 GMT
iPhone News <invalid@nospam.net> wrote in news:invalid-
A6E642.18271805052008@news.giganews.com:

> AT&T started rolling out the service prematurely

Premature Ejaculation......It happens...(c;
George Kerby - 06 May 2008 16:03 GMT
On 5/5/08 5:34 PM, in article Xns9A95BE02795D6noonehomecom@208.49.80.253,

> iPhone News <invalid@nospam.net> wrote in news:invalid-
> A6E642.18271805052008@news.giganews.com:
>
>> AT&T started rolling out the service prematurely
>
> Premature Ejaculation......It happens...(c;

Why am I not surprised that you would come up with that analogy?

What are you, about 14 - 15 years?
News - 06 May 2008 16:07 GMT
> On 5/5/08 5:34 PM, in article Xns9A95BE02795D6noonehomecom@208.49.80.253,
>
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>
> What are you, about 14 - 15 years?

Sure, just as an ED analogy would flag a sixty-something....
Larry - 06 May 2008 17:31 GMT
George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in news:C445DD6B.5764%
ghost_topper@hotmail.com:

> What are you, about 14 - 15 years?

Oh, don't I wish!....(c;
 
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