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The BlackBerry is in for a bruising

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4phun - 13 May 2008 02:33 GMT
The BlackBerry is in for a bruising

By Scott Moritz

Research in Motion (RIMM) takes the stage this week to preach to a
gathering of its faithful in Florida during the Canadian company’s
annual Wireless Enterprise Symposium. But just as the BlackBerry maker
seems to be reaching the height of success, its flock may well start
to stray.

Not only will followers be tempted by new devices like Apple’s (AAPL)
forthcoming business-friendly iPhone, other sect members will face
excommunication as cost-cutting initiatives sweep through the office
ranks.

Check out the full Fortune Magazine article at

http://techland.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/05/12/the-blackberry-is-in-for-a-brui
sing/?for-a-bruisingthe-blackberry-is-in-for-a-bruising/


While you are there also check out the related article about Sprint

Sprint’s best customers are hanging up

http://techland.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/05/12/sprints-best-customers-are-leaving/

What famous American fruit phone has is mentioned in both stories?

Too bad so sad for Sprint and Rim.
Larry - 13 May 2008 04:26 GMT
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:a7f3a5dc-f228-41e0-aca8-
01177edcd865@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:

> The BlackBerry is in for a bruising

http://fortuneapple20.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/picture-35.jpg

Vic, Vic, VIC!

Look CLOSELY at this picture....No, take off the purple-filtered Apple
glasses for a minute.

Now, Iphone is second to RIM in NORTH AMERICA, a fast-becoming secondary
market across the planet.  ...And, once again, RIM wipes its a.s with an
old product that's been out for a long time like a Palm Pilot.

Now, let's look at the BIGGER picture away from the ATT backwards
network, with or without Starbucks this hour.....

Notice how much WIDER the BLACK band is across the graph at the TOP EACH
quarter since the graphs start, compared to that little purple slice
piled upon the more mature technologies.

Now, look at the DIFFERENCES in how tall the Red (Linux) and Orange
(Symbian) bands are from Q2 to Q3 at the right.  The DIFFERENCE in
thickness of the Orange band is TWICE as tall as the whole purple band.  
The DIFFERENCE in thickness of the Red band is THREE TIMES as tall as the
whole purple band!

Both Linux and Symbian smartphone sales INCREASED LOTS MORE than the
WHOLE SALES TOTAL of both iPhones or RIM products.  Symbian smartphones
outsold the TOTAL SALES of Iphones PLUS RIMS PLUS Micro$oft smartphones
by 350%!

Now, put the Purple-filtered Apple glasses back on and erase the chart
from your browser before anyone else besides all of us start laughing so
hard at you....

More NEW Smartphones in Q3 run SYMBIAN than ALL the RIMs and iPhones ever
sold on the PLANET!

Ask yourself WHY?

Here's some reasons:
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http://mosh.nokia.com/
on MOSH
   * Themes (2069)
   * Ringtones (3874)
   * Wallpaper (14205)
   * Widgets (408)
They put more freeware on MOSH TODAY, than the sum total of all software
ever written for iPhone, RIMphones, WMphones...EVER!

"Apr 24, 2008
NEW FEATURE ALERT!!!
MOSH IS LAUNCHING SPONSORED GAMES.
USE YOUR MOBILE DEVICE TO ACCESS MORE THAN 800 MOBILE GAMES. NO JOKE.
Just like MOSH, Sponsored Games are totally free. ENTER THE ADDRESS BELOW
IN YOUR MOBILE TO START PLAYING:
http://sg.mosh.nokia.mobi
Let Russell know what you think.
HAVE FUN!"

"Super Mario Planet
   * Dec 7, 2007
   * poracho's Collection, camydevil's Collection, relientKIT's
Collection
   * 11,952 downloads this week"

http://mosh.nokia.com/browse
Take a look for yourself!

http://www.symbian-freeware.com/

http://www.symbiangear.com/platform_psion/index.html
64510 software titles

http://www.mobiletopsoft.com/symbian/
>1000 freeware titles

http://symbian-freeware.blogspot.com/

http://www.symbianfreeware.mobi/

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Apple will NEVER learn this lesson.....
It sure has made NOKIA FILTHY RICH!
4phun - 13 May 2008 22:19 GMT
> 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:a7f3a5dc-f228-41e0-aca8-
> 01177edcd...@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 83 lines]
> Apple will NEVER learn this lesson.....
> It sure has made NOKIA FILTHY RICH!

This is gving me a headache. I think I will see if I can past those
protesters down the street and get into Mulligans for a beer so I will
not think about Apple's foreign competition.

Norman, Mulligan's owner, is about as controversal as Larry.

http://www.ajc.com/health/content/metro/cobb/stories/2008/05/13/mulligans_0514.html
Just down the street from Marietta's famous Big Chicken, Mulligan's
has carved a provocative niche in an increasingly multicultural area,
thanks to its owner's ultra-conservative political views...

Among his recent musings: "I wish Hillary had married OJ," "No habla
espanol -- and never will" and the standard "I.N.S. Agents eat free."

Oh...  and his new Obama T-Shirt...
http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/07/14/49/image_7049147.jpg

Maybe I can get him to make a Nokia T-Shirt - any ideas?
Larry - 13 May 2008 23:52 GMT
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:33548152-faff-4b05-8146-
a43d6d42535d@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

> This is gving me a headache. I think I will see if I can past those
> protesters down the street and get into Mulligans for a beer so I will
> not think about Apple's foreign competition.

OH, VIC!  BIG TROUBLE this week!  NEW NOKIA N78!

http://www.nokia-asia.com/link?cid=PLAIN_TEXT_869761

The BIG GUN has just BLASTED its latest salvo and will release this in a
day or two to a starving world.

It runs SYMBIAN, just like I pointed out to you.  Thousands of eager
freewares are all ready to load onto it!

http://www.nokia-asia.com/A4833226
Check out the huge list of toys!
(Nokia maps is Wayfinder.  Nokia bought 'em.)

Real Media
Flash
JAVA MIDP 2.0
Javascript
RSS feed reader
Quick Office w/PDF reader
S60 PIM PDA functions w/sync to Microsoft desktop apps.

Connectivity
   * WLAN IEEE802.11 b/g with UPnP support
   * USB 2.0 high-speed through micro USB connector
   * Bluetooth wireless technology 2.0 + EDR
   * Nokia AV connector 3.5mm
   * Nokia Nseries PC Suite connectivity with USB, and Bluetooth wireless
technology
   * Local synchronization of contacts and calendar to a compatible PC
using connection
   * Remote over-the-air synchronization
   * Send and receive images, video clips, graphics, and business cards
via Bluetooth wireless technology

Secondary camera, CIF (352x288 pixels) sensor
(separate WEBCAM??)

Only thing missing is the 700 Mhz TV for Verizon....big deal.

   *  Call logs, speed dial, voice dialing, voice commands, and talking
ringtone
   * OMA PoC 1.0 (Push-to-Talk over Cellular Walkie Talkie!)

Data Transfer*

   * WCDMA 850/1900 (HSDPA) with simultaneous voice and packet data (PS
max speed UL/DL= 384/3.6MB, CS max speed 64kbps)
   * Dual Transfer Mode (DTM) support for simultaneous voice and packet
data connection in GSM/EDGE networks. Simple class A, multi slot class 11,
max speed DL/UL: 118.4/118.4 kbits/s
   * EGPRS class B, multi slot class 32, max speed DL/UL= 296 / 177.6
kbits/s
SIMULTANEOUS VOICE AND DATA...yum, yum!  

RealPlayer media player
   * Full-screen video playback to view downloaded, streamed or recorded
video clips
   * Supported video formats: MPEG-4, H.264/AVC, H.263/3GPP, RealVideo
8/9/10, Flash 3.0
==================================================================
   *  Integrated Assisted Global Positioning System (A-GPS)
   * Pre-installed Nokia Maps application and free downloadable maps*
* The service is available free of charge, although any data transferred
over the network will incur charges from your network operator. To check
the availability and cost of the service, contact your network operator or
service provider.
Free mapping software...FREE MAPS, too!....

This is why the VAST MAJORITY of smartphones are SYMBIAN.....and why
Symbian sales are HUGE!
4phun - 14 May 2008 05:39 GMT
> 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:33548152-faff-4b05-8146-
> a43d6d425...@b64g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 74 lines]
> This is why the VAST MAJORITY of smartphones are SYMBIAN.....and why
> Symbian sales are HUGE!

Maybe that T-Shirt should be about Nokia having a smaller screen?
Apple's is bigger than theirs?
Larry - 15 May 2008 04:54 GMT
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:fcf19eca-2f01-4777-8f6c-
1a78a5de55e5@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:

> Maybe that T-Shirt should be about Nokia having a smaller screen?
> Apple's is bigger than theirs?

Waitaminute!  You were braggin about how much smaller your iPhone was than
my N800.....Now, all of a sudden, smaller ISN'T better?

Which way is it?  You can't keep flip floppin like Hillary Clinton!
Michael N. Paris - 15 May 2008 12:39 GMT
> 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:fcf19eca-2f01-4777-8f6c-
> 1a78a5de55e5@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Which way is it?  You can't keep flip floppin like Hillary Clinton!

Add to the fact, can you make a phone call or use wireless services on an
N800? And I'm not talking about it being tethered, linked, connected to a
phone.
Larry - 15 May 2008 17:49 GMT
> Add to the fact, can you make a phone call or use wireless services on
> an N800? And I'm not talking about it being tethered, linked,
> connected to a phone.

Huh?  iPhones are all tethered, linked, connected to a phone....their own
phone.  Why is that different, other than airtime charges?

Yes, I make calls on the N800 over several VoIP systems like Skype or Gizmo
or your favorite flavor of SIP VoIP all the time.  While waiting for my
Mercedes service this morning, I was called by someone I know in Siberia.  
We were worried about someone we both know in Osaka, JP, so I conferenced
him on Skype and the 3 of us talked for about 40 minutes, using the free
wifi at my Mercedes shop they provide their customers as a service.

I could have done it if I had the new Sony Playstation Portable 2000 with
Skype, just as well.....which I think is just slick as snot!....(c;

Can you call anyone on iPhones without being tethered to a sellphone
company?
George Kerby - 15 May 2008 15:41 GMT
On 5/14/08 10:54 PM, in article Xns9A9F6A59E6Anoonehomecom@208.49.80.253,

> 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:fcf19eca-2f01-4777-8f6c-
> 1a78a5de55e5@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Which way is it?  You can't keep flip floppin like Hillary Clinton!

If smaller is better for you, so be it. Size does matter...
Larry - 15 May 2008 17:49 GMT
George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in news:C451B5DF.67D1%
ghost_topper@hotmail.com:

> If smaller is better for you, so be it. Size does matter...

Hillary is better than Britney?  She's much bigger.

I think........................NOT!
George Kerby - 15 May 2008 19:20 GMT
On 5/15/08 11:49 AM, in article Xns9A9F83F244825noonehomecom@208.49.80.253,

> George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in news:C451B5DF.67D1%
> ghost_topper@hotmail.com:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> I think........................NOT!

Apples ‚ Oranges
4phun - 15 May 2008 21:10 GMT
> On 5/15/08 11:49 AM, in article Xns9A9F83F244825noonehome...@208.49.80.253,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Apples ‚ Oranges

Crab Apples vs Navels
DTC - 15 May 2008 22:46 GMT
> Hillary is better than Britney?  She's much bigger.

But still...neither one can write their name in the snow.
§ - 15 May 2008 22:51 GMT
>> Hillary is better than Britney?  She's much bigger.
>
> But still...neither one can write their name in the snow.

Now now, don't be so hard on Hillary....

I'm fairly certain that Hillary has written *someones* name in the snow :)
Larry - 16 May 2008 05:32 GMT
> I'm fairly certain that Hillary has written *someones* name in the
> snow :)

Yeah......Vince Foster's.

Ron Brown

http://www.zpub.com/un/un-bc-body.html
the others, too......
Pegleg - 16 May 2008 00:00 GMT
>> Hillary is better than Britney?  She's much bigger.
>
>But still...neither one can write their name in the snow.

Maybe they can while "duck walking"!
Larry - 16 May 2008 05:30 GMT
DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:ac2Xj.892$qH4.621
@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com:

> But still...neither one can write their name in the snow.

What I have in mind for Britney, she doesn't even have to know how to
talk...(c;
George Kerby - 16 May 2008 15:26 GMT
On 5/15/08 11:30 PM, in article Xns9AA065B3B6B9noonehomecom@208.49.80.253,

> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in news:ac2Xj.892$qH4.621
> @nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com:
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> What I have in mind for Britney, she doesn't even have to know how to
> talk...(c;

Your taste is in your mouth.
Larry - 16 May 2008 16:10 GMT
> On 5/15/08 11:30 PM, in article
> Xns9AA065B3B6B9noonehomecom@208.49.80.253, "Larry" <noone@home.com>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
> Your taste is in your mouth.

OK, that too....add one more....(c;
Larry - 01 Jun 2008 16:36 GMT
http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/30/technology/iphone.ap/?postversion=
2008053018

Obviously, the thread headline was wrong.....
 
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