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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / ATT Wireless / June 2008StyleTap’s Palm OS emulator will instantly allow o ver 20,000 iPhone mobile applications
http://cagle.com/news/iPhone07/images/oconnor.jpg and http://cagle.com/news/iPhone07/images/stahler.gif StyleTap’s Palm OS emulator officially coming to iPhone and iPod touch May 31, 2008 StyleTap Inc. today announced plans to bring to market a version of StyleTap® CrossPlatform for the iPhone™ and the iPod® touch, which will instantly allow over 20,000 mobile applications to run on these popular devices. Further information about the product, including how it will be marketed and sold, will be made available in early July 2008. http://www.mobiletechaddicts.com/2008/05/31/styletaps-palm-os-emulator-officiall y-coming-to-iphone-and-ipod-touch/ “The iPhone is one of the hottest new mobile devices out there,” said Gregory Sokoloff, CEO of StyleTap Inc., “And the response to our video has convinced us that many, many consumers, and companies, will eagerly jump at the change to buy iPhone devices if they can continue to run their must-have applications.” Technically, StyleTap CrossPlatform is an excellent fit with the iPhone, as the powerful processor and large screen allows applications written for Palm OS® devices to run at full speed and at full screen resolution. The iPhone touch screen technology works in a very natural way with mobile applications originally designed for touch screen devices. 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:a85a827a-99df-416a-b322- 0b73619942ad@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com: > StyleTap's Palm OS emulator officially coming to iPhone and iPod touch > May 31, 2008 About time....We've just got version 2 of Garnet VM for the Nokia Linux tablets. They listened and went to landscape mode with a neat rotator if you want. It has lots more of Palm's features, but the tablet doesn't support IR comms, only BT and wifi. I connect to Palm Desktop on the PC over my LAN or the internet and HotSync works very nicely that way. I was at the Apple Store inside Best Buy and paired the N800 with an Air notebook over OBEX push. I transferred some files back and forth from the tablet's file manager to the Air. It's slower than BT on my WinXP box, but it will do it once you wade through the OSX menus and turn sharing and stuff on. The Apple guy just stood there in awe. He didn't have a clue when I asked him.... Welcome to Palm OS. iPhone now has thousands of FREEWARE programs to go with the bloatware.... http://cagle.com/news/iPhone07/images/oconnor.jpg and http://cagle.com/news/iPhone07/images/stahler.gif StyleTap’s Palm OS emulator officially coming to iPhone and iPod touch May 31, 2008 StyleTap Inc. today announced plans to bring to market a version of StyleTap® CrossPlatform for the iPhone™ and the iPod® touch, which will instantly allow over 20,000 mobile applications to run on these popular devices. Further information about the product, including how it will be marketed and sold, will be made available in early July 2008. By the time you add all of these apps up it's going to cost you way to much. $$.$$ here and $$.$$ there. No thanks. http://www.mobiletechaddicts.com/2008/05/31/styletaps-palm-os-emulator-officiall y-coming-to-iphone-and-ipod-touch/ “The iPhone is one of the hottest new mobile devices out there,” said Gregory Sokoloff, CEO of StyleTap Inc., “And the response to our video has convinced us that many, many consumers, and companies, will eagerly jump at the change to buy iPhone devices if they can continue to run their must-have applications.” Must have ? That's if apple allows them, and if apple makes $$.$$ on it. Technically, StyleTap CrossPlatform is an excellent fit with the iPhone, as the powerful processor and large screen allows applications written for Palm OS® devices to run at full speed and at full screen resolution. The iPhone touch screen technology works in a very natural way with mobile applications originally designed for touch screen devices. "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:xfo0k.5851 $mh5.767@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com: > Must have ? That's if apple allows them, and if apple makes $$.$$ on it. Which is precisely why I think GARNET, owner of the formerly-called-Palm OS, isn't making a VM for it....like they did this machine...(c; http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/ Beta 2 runs in landscape mode (full screen)....they listened! .....an amazing amount of fun freeware you don't need a 28" high-def monitor to see. It WOULD be nice if the Palm poker games could be setup so they let ME win, occasionally, along with the Blackjack and Casino games...dammit. Don't forget to download MiniBar which has some really great booze recipes for your next party....hundreds of them. Use carefully. I think some mixtures might be illegal outside of CIA or military control.... Sure wish the N800 battery lasted 6 weeks of ON like my Handspring or Palm III....(sigh) Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in news:Xns9AAFEF0A65C08noonehomecom@ 208.49.80.253: > http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/ This quoted from palmaddict.com may be another reason why Access/Garnet isn't doing iPhone: "ACCESS Linux Platform(TM) In addition to Garnet OS, ACCESS is developing its next-generation platform for mobile phones and converged devices -- the ACCESS Linux Platform(TM) -- the industry's first fully integrated, commercial grade Linux®-based platform for mobile phones and devices. The ACCESS Linux Platform will include a Garnet OS compatibility layer, currently known as GHost (Garnet (TM) Host). ACCESS has publicly demonstrated that most properly written 68K Garnet OS applications will run on ACCESS Linux Platform-based devices with little or no modification." .....and I think the Maemo Linux tablets are a "test bed" because they are letting us have it free.....and asking us to do survey and bug reports... Sure works cool and runs fast...(c; Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Larry said: > Which is precisely why I think GARNET, owner of the formerly-called-Palm > OS, isn't making a VM for it....like they did this machine...(c; There is no such company. "Garnet" is PalmOS 5, which is wholly owned by Palm, Inc, the company that develops the Treo. Palm, Inc, bought it (back) from Access, the company that bought the company that was spun off from Palm Inc a few years ago when some numbwit decided it would be a Good Idea to separate the OS development from the hardware development. That so-called Good Idea had the net result of OS stagnation when OS 6, aka "Cobalt", was never adopted by any Palm OS licensee (including Palm), but some of its features were shoehorned into OS5 resulting in massive stability and compatibility problems which in turn resulted in the erosion of market share. What, me bitter? What ever gave you that idea?  SignatureJeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol Peter's Top 100 Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord, #34. I will not turn into a snake. It never helps. > There is no such company. "Garnet" is PalmOS 5, which is wholly owned > by Palm, Inc, the company that develops the Treo. Palm, Inc, bought it > (back) from Access, the company that bought the company that was spun > off from Palm Inc a few years ago when some numbwit decided it would be > a Good Idea to separate the OS development from the hardware > development. http://www.access-company.com/products/gvm/ (version 2 is a week old) http://www.access-company.com/about/index.html revenue 30B yen with over 2100 employees. http://www.access-company.com/products/platforms/garnet/index.html Garnet OS. I suppose, in your mind, they stole it? http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/25/access-renames-palm-os-to-garnet-os- treo-users-die-a-little-m/ News from engadget last January when Palm OS name was simply deleted. http://palmaddict.typepad.com/palmaddicts/2007/01/access_debuts_n.html more info for you from the Palm Addicts. http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3687966793.html Access is building a new mobile Linux platform that will incorporate the Garnet OS virtual machine so that all their Linux mobiles will run Palm software. That's why they released the VM to the Nokia Linux tablet community for beta testing and suggestions. http://911truth.org/ The cultists in our government were directly responsible for 9/11, too, while we're addressing some myths. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism The rate of deaths amoung atheists is exactly the same as the rate of deaths for religious zealots, priests, preachers, nuns and every religious nut on the planet. Ask yourself why. On December 21st, 2012, we'll have further proof it's all a lie to keep the elite in power. Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Larry said: > > There is no such company. "Garnet" is PalmOS 5, which is wholly owned > > by Palm, Inc, the company that develops the Treo. Palm, Inc, bought it [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > http://911truth.org/ > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism While some of that is interesting, none of that has anything to do with my rant. The development items you reference could have been done by a still-singular Palm Inc either as its own company or as a purchased asset owned by Access, which I, as an end-user, would have preferred over what we have now. I don't know if the end result would have been different than what we have now with the Treo, but at least there would be reasonable hope that what the world sees as Palm isn't about to die. With all of what you linked about Access, does any of that show any indication of if or when devices will actually be available for purchase either by themselves or from licensees? And note that I do not particularly care about the Chinese market, and I care only a little more than that about the European market. I'm in North America, I want to know if/when +I+ will be able to buy a true new or upgrade Palm compatible smartphone. SignatureJeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol Peter's Top 100 Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord, #178. If I have the hero cornered and am about to finish him off and he says "Look out behind you!!" I will not laugh and say "You don't expect me to fall for that old trick, do you?" Instead I will take a step to the side and half turn. That way I can still keep my weapon trained on the hero, I can scan the area behind me, and if anything was heading for me it will now be heading for him. > With all of what you linked about Access, does any of that show any > indication of if or when devices will actually be available for > purchase either by themselves or from licensees? Access purchased Palm OS from Palm, Inc. Access changed the name of the product to Garnet OS. Palm still has an unlimited license to develop Access' product. Palm still sells Palm equipment and writes/sells Palm software for the Garnet OS product. The earth is Millions of years old, in spite of what Christian children are taught to ignore a mountain of evidence that it is only 8000 years old. Quite simple, actually.....Japan bought 'em out. Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Larry said: > Access purchased Palm OS from Palm, Inc. Wrong. Access purchased PalmSource from PalmSource after Palm, Inc split itself into two companies. PalmSource was the owner of the OS, PalmOne, the other half of the split, was the owner of the hardware. After all the legal issues of the split were resolved, PalmOne changed its name back to Palm, Inc. PalmSource was eventually purchased by Access. Palm, Inc then eventually purchased from Access full and unlimited rights to Palm OS5, aka "Garnet". > Access changed the name of the product to Garnet OS. OS5 has, if not always then at least for a long time, been called "Garnet" within itself. This is common practice among OS developers. MacOSX is called "Leopard". Various versions of Windows have been called, at times, "Chicago", "Memphis" and "Longhorn". > Palm still has an unlimited license to develop Access' product. No, they have an unlimited license to develop OS5 and not use the Access name because they purchased the OS, rather than are licensing it. > Palm still sells Palm equipment and writes/sells Palm software for the > Garnet OS product. I never said they didn't. > The earth is Millions of years old, in spite of what Christian children are > taught to ignore a mountain of evidence that it is only 8000 years old. What's your point? Oh, you're "Larry", you never have a point. How did you escape my killfile? SignatureJeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol Peter's Top 100 Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord, #34. I will not turn into a snake. It never helps. > There is no such company. "Garnet" is PalmOS 5, which is wholly owned > by Palm, Inc, the company that develops the Treo. Palm, Inc, bought it > (back) from Access, the company that bought the company that was spun > off from Palm Inc a few years ago when some numbwit decided it would be > a Good Idea to separate the OS development from the hardware > development. http://www.palm.com/us/software/ Look around. There's NO REFERENCE to Palm OS, anywhere. It no longer exists. Palm sells software for the Garnet OS environment, Sellphones and accessories. It does NOT sell Palm OS, which it sold to Access, a Linux developer, who renamed it Garnet OS. http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9137/palm-signs-perpetual-license-for- palm-os-garnet/ ...old news but it lets you follow the OS line. Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Larry said: > http://www.palm.com/us/software/ > > Look around. There's NO REFERENCE to Palm OS, anywhere. It no longer > exists. Palm sells software for the Garnet OS environment, Sellphones and > accessories. It does NOT sell Palm OS, which it sold to Access, a Linux > developer, who renamed it Garnet OS. I never said that Palm Inc +sells+ the OS. I said that they +bought+ it from Access. Palm Inc did that to free themselves from being stuck with licensing an OS that bears their name from another company, and make changes to it on their own schedule. My rant is that if they never split the company in the first place, then they would have had to buy back what was originally theirs in the first place, development time would not have been wasted, major software developers and users probably would not be abandoning the platform. SignatureJeffrey Kaplan www.gordol.org The from userid is killfiled Send personal mail to gordol Last week I forgot how to ride a bicycle. (Steven Wright) > I never said that Palm Inc +sells+ the OS. I said that they +bought+ > it from Access. Palm Inc did that to free themselves from being stuck > with licensing an OS that bears their name from another company, and > make changes to it on their own schedule. Well, that simply is not true. Access owns the OS, now, and Palm has an unlimited license to use it. > Look around. There's NO REFERENCE to Palm OS, anywhere. It no longer > exists. Palm sells software for the Garnet OS environment, Sellphones and > accessories. It does NOT sell Palm OS, which it sold to Access, a Linux > developer, who renamed it Garnet OS. Since when is Access a "Linux developer?" They are a mobile device/embedded OS software developer that programs for multiple environments. Their main products are web browsers (NetFront) for mobile/embedded devices. Heck, they'd write CP/M programs as well if it made a comeback. I assume they bought Palm OS to develop/offer a simple OS/browser "combo" with a robust environment for the (relatively) "tiny" development space they typically work in. Calling them "Linux developers" is a bit silly- developers like Access may certainly have preferences, but they are platform agnostic- they go where the paycheck is. > Calling them "Linux developers" is a bit silly- developers like Access > may certainly have preferences, but they are platform agnostic- they > go where the paycheck is. Hell, man, GO READ THE WEBPAGES!! I don't really give a sh.t, one way or the other.... But, after reading reality from the sources, I formed an informed opinion from what THEY TOLD ME. Why do you give a sh.t so much, anyway? Somebody steal your lollipop? > > Calling them "Linux developers" is a bit silly- developers like > Access [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Hell, man, GO READ THE WEBPAGES!! > I don't really give a sh.t, one way or the other.... Oh, but you do. You share the same M.O. as Oxford or any other fanboi- once you've latched onto your product du jour, be it Knology, Skype, the N800, etc.- any product even tangentally associated with them becomes "best in class." The day Domino's Pizza installs Nokia webtablets in their delivery cars, you'll regale us with tales of just how nutritious and dog- gone tasty Domino's truly is... > But, after reading reality from the sources, I formed an informed > opinion from what THEY TOLD ME. Whoa, pop a Zanax, Lar. A week ago you didn't even know their name. > Why do you give a sh.t so much, anyway? Somebody steal your > lollipop? I don't really "give a sh.t" one way or another- I was actually pointing out that Access is MORE than you claimed- they're a fairly successful company developing across multiple platforms. Honda might build a mean portable gaas-powered generator, (and does!) but they might be surprized to be referred to as a "generator company." In fact, I'm a paying customer- I own the 3.0 version of their NetFront browser for Pocket PC, (but I didn't let them exort me into paying for the privilege of bug-fixes in their little-improved 3.1, 3.2, or 3.3 versions. The 3.5 beta looks VERY promising, however- they might me get me to pony up again if they work out most of the few remaining kinks.) |
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