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4phun - 01 Jun 2008 13:32 GMT
AT&T Global Network Operations Center in Bedminster, NJ is ready for
iPhone 3G June 9
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/data.jpg

http://www.corp.att.com/history/milestone_2002.html

Compare that to other less impressive NOC's
http://royal.pingdom.com/?p=296
News - 01 Jun 2008 16:29 GMT
> AT&T Global Network Operations Center in Bedminster, NJ
> http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/data.jpg

Note:  "nobody home"
Larry - 01 Jun 2008 16:51 GMT
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:cc04a2c8-65fc-4462-a910-
015b79ce0a08@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

> AT&T Global Network Operations Center in Bedminster, NJ is ready for
> iPhone 3G June 9
> http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/data.jpg

That's the ATT Network Center.  It has nothing to do with SELLphone
networks, a tiny company called ATT Wireless that ATT, Inc. bought back
from Cingular for peanuts.  ATT Network Center controls a major portion of
the data network you're reading this message from.  It passes more data in
a microsecond than all the data ever transmitted by ATT/Cingular Wireless
since the first tower was erected, not long ago.

Your perception of the tiny, and separate, sellphone carrier with the
company's moniker on it is very warped, like looking through a huge
magnifying glass.  To compare the two companies, ATT is the sun, ATT
Wireless is the Earth:
http://troybrophy.com/projects/solarsystem/planetaryscale.html
As you can see, ATT Wireless is a quite insignificant part of the company
whole.

If ATTWS went belly up, ATT execs might skip lunch.
Dennis Ferguson - 01 Jun 2008 18:44 GMT
> 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:cc04a2c8-65fc-4462-a910-
> 015b79ce0a08@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> If ATTWS went belly up, ATT execs might skip lunch.

Here are AT&T's segment revenue numbers for the first three months
of 2008 (in millions of $):

 Wireless  Wireline  Publishing   Other
  11,825    17,624      1,417      544

More important, here is the income:

 Wireless  Wireline  Publishing   Other
   2,898     2,833        418       15

So wireless service provides 37% of AT&T's total revenue and 47% of
their profit.  I think they'd notice if it went belly up.

Dennis Ferguson
Larry - 01 Jun 2008 18:40 GMT
> More important, here is the income:
>
>   Wireless  Wireline  Publishing   Other
>     2,898     2,833        418       15

Where's the international network?  ATT's other commercial
businesses.??  This just shows the CONSUMER business....
Dennis Ferguson - 01 Jun 2008 23:56 GMT
>> More important, here is the income:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Where's the international network?  ATT's other commercial
> businesses.??  This just shows the CONSUMER business....

Everything they do is rolled into those four categories, that's the
entire line from their CY first quarter 10-Q.  If it isn't in the
10-Q AT&T didn't do it.  It definitely isn't just consumer business
since they further break some of the categories out into consumer,
business and wholesale in other spots in the 10-Q.

It is worse for Verizon, actually.  The wireless business is half
of their revenue, and well under half of their assets, but is about
3/4 of their income.  It is a majority of Verizon's income even if
you take out the 40% or so which belongs to Vodafone.

Dennis Ferguson
Todd Allcock - 03 Jun 2008 12:31 GMT
> That's the ATT Network Center.  It has nothing to do with SELLphone
> networks, a tiny company called ATT Wireless that ATT, Inc. bought back
> from Cingular for peanuts.

Larry- AT&T the juggernaut you're referring to is gone.  Southwestern Bell
Bought the name and shell company of what was left and adopted the name
because everyone recognizes it.

And they didn't buy Cingular- they WERE Cingular (or actually 60% of it.
BellSouth owned the other 40% of Cingular and SBC bought BellSouth after
buying AT&T.)

>  ATT Network Center controls a major portion of
> the data network you're reading this message from.  It passes more data in
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> If ATTWS went belly up, ATT execs might skip lunch.

Your perception of wireless' insignificance in the modern era is warped.
It's the leading revenue source for phone companies in this day and age.
 
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