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New $700 32GB 3G iPhone

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4phun - 03 Jun 2008 00:03 GMT
- Lighter weight
- Black + other colors
- Focus on Multimedia with Video recording
- Video Conferencing
- GPS
- 32GB $699
- 22 percent thinner
- better battery life
- new type battery

- 16GB $499

There may be a low end $200 iPhone introduced alongside the (normally
priced) 3G-capable iPhones.
Kevin Weaver - 03 Jun 2008 00:07 GMT
Better battery life ? Why so ? We all know the org battery was awesome. NOT!
New type of battery ? And what's newer then Li-ion ?
Must be the Apple battery. Better then all the rest. Yep, that's it.

>- Lighter weight
> - Black + other colors
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> There may be a low end $200 iPhone introduced alongside the (normally
> priced) 3G-capable iPhones.
4phun - 03 Jun 2008 02:12 GMT
On Jun 2, 7:07 pm, "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithwea...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> Better battery life ? Why so ? We all know the org battery was awesome. NOT!
> New type of battery ? And what's newer then Li-ion ?
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>
> - Show quoted text -

No, I suspect Apple will switch to OLED in the new high end iPhones
and that may  help explain decreased power consumption. It also would
tend to explain the rather high price for the new models. What ever it
is Apple will probably use cutting edge technology. They lead, all the
rest try to follow.
4phun - 03 Jun 2008 02:27 GMT
> On Jun 2, 7:07 pm, "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithwea...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Woa

I just found out there will be a function to watch TV with your iPhone
in the new 3G - source Apple employee.
Larry - 03 Jun 2008 03:09 GMT
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:7e17b8cf-63fb-48a6-89fb-
6c96a73e8742@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:

> I just found out there will be a function to watch TV with your iPhone
> in the new 3G - source Apple employee.

It will have ATT Mobile TV on it on the new TV system?

http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/messaging-internet/mobile-tv/index.jsp

....believe it when you see it.....

Geez, it may even have FLASH!
Kevin Weaver - 03 Jun 2008 03:43 GMT
15.00 month.

Al the 1st iPhone buyers will not be able to get it. Edge wont give it
enough speed.

> 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:7e17b8cf-63fb-48a6-89fb-
> 6c96a73e8742@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Geez, it may even have FLASH!
Larry - 03 Jun 2008 04:52 GMT
"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:Md21k.6065
$mh5.2982@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com:

> Al the 1st iPhone buyers will not be able to get it. Edge wont give it
> enough speed.

I have big news....ATT TV isn't data downloaded to a player.  It's the new
700 Mhz digital TV like Verizon has running for the Voyager, on a whole
other system requiring a whole other receiver.....which I doubt will fit in
the smaller, EVER-THINNER, iPhones.....

Nope....it's gonna be another "data player", I suspect, maybe an ORB 2
copycat app like I'm running to the tablet.

Anyone can use ORB 2, not just iPhone.  Your PC is a server, receiving TV
off a TV card or serving up video clips to whole movies....converting them
to something the handheld or laptop can stream like RealVideo or Windows
Media or Quicktime....and streaming it on-the-fly.

All the mobile needs is a browser that can play a stream.  I use RealMedia
to the tablet.  This is all old hat, now, not some new thing Apple just
invented special for the Iphone2.

Being as this is all about SELLphones and CARRIERS, particularly ATT, in
partial control.  One bets this is about CLIPS, like the rest, not about
streaming Live TV 24/7 and SUCKING UP SCADS OF BANDWIDTH.......NOT.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 03 Jun 2008 12:29 GMT
In article
<7e17b8cf-63fb-48a6-89fb-6c96a73e8742@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,

> Woa
>
> I just found out there will be a function to watch TV with your iPhone
> in the new 3G - source Apple employee.

You mean, the TV that Steve Jobs wants you to watch.
Larry - 03 Jun 2008 02:28 GMT
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:cdedc8de-15f8-47ea-8d17-
ca76cd1ca981@l64g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

> new high end iPhones

Apple doesn't HAVE any "high end phones".  They have an iPod that acts like
a Sellphone.

"High End Phones" all run SOFTWARE APPS from LINUX or SYMBIAN or Garnet or
even WinMo and you don't have to beg on your hands and knees to load
them....except maybe on Verizon.....

http://www.symbian-freeware.com/
http://freeware.mobiletopsoft.com/
http://wilk13.net/palmtopy/en-index.php
etc., etc., etc,......
DTC - 03 Jun 2008 04:38 GMT
> New type of battery ? And what's newer then Li-ion ?
> Must be the Apple battery. Better then all the rest. Yep, that's it.

Haven't you ever made a battery with an apple?  Oh wait, its with a
lemon...kinda like the iPhone, huh?
Kevin Weaver - 03 Jun 2008 06:59 GMT
>> New type of battery ? And what's newer then Li-ion ?
>> Must be the Apple battery. Better then all the rest. Yep, that's it.
>
> Haven't you ever made a battery with an apple?  Oh wait, its with a
> lemon...kinda like the iPhone, huh?

You got that right. A new type of battery. Steve must be smoking that Jesus
juice again.

Anyone that pays 700.00 for a iPhone is wacked.
Larry - 03 Jun 2008 02:20 GMT
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:c28345bb-ef91-4c7d-baa0-
79d77fc3f8df@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

> - Lighter weight
> - Black + other colors
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> There may be a low end $200 iPhone introduced alongside the (normally
> priced) 3G-capable iPhones.

(GASP!)

SEVEN......HUNDRED......DOLLARS??!!!!

To quote George Carlin - "HOLY SH*T!"

Then I gotta BUY software from some crooks through Apple?!!

An iPhoney and a few "approved apps" is a THOUSAND DOLLARS...EASY!!

They must be outa their heads......or smokin' somethin'!!

Wait a week....it'll be half that and everyone will think its
WONDERFUL....an old pricing ploy that worked for Detroit Auto
manufacturers...until recently.

....where's my nitro pills!  where's my nitro pills!

(gasp)

Palm and Research In Motion have nothing to worry about....except to
crank up production....

$700!

For a 3G system that's, mostly, VAPORWARE.
News - 03 Jun 2008 14:43 GMT
> - 32GB $699

And true to AAPL form, $399 after 90 days -- amid screams and wailing by
bleeding edge early adopter fashionistas.
SMS - 04 Jun 2008 15:54 GMT
>> - 32GB $699
>
> And true to AAPL form, $399 after 90 days -- amid screams and wailing by
> bleeding edge early adopter fashionistas.

Well at least to $499. How is Apple going to deal with that bit of
history on the iPhone? Almost certainly they will change their pricing
model back to a more traditional model of carrier subsidies, which will
both lower the initial outlay and discourage the rampant unlocking of
the old model.

A $700 32GB iPhone that sells for a subsidized $500, and includes
features like a full vehicular GPS system wouldn't be too bad.

Apple could justify it, as they often do, by adding up the cost of the
individual pieces:

MP3: $100
GPS: $150
World Phone: $50
PDA: $200
---------
Total: $500

These are at the low end of prices for each device. If they compared it
to high end devices:

MP3: $200
GPS: $350
World Phone: $150
PDA: $300
---------
Total: $900

I haven't been an iPhone fan for the first model, it was just too
de-featured, but if you don't need full PDA functionality, a $500, 32GB
jailbroken 3G iPhone would be a pretty nice device for non-business travel.
News - 04 Jun 2008 15:54 GMT
>>> - 32GB $699
>>
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> de-featured, but if you don't need full PDA functionality, a $500, 32GB
> jailbroken 3G iPhone would be a pretty nice device for non-business travel.

But since you already have a fully-featured device for business travel,
why bother carrying around supplementary iTrash?
SMS - 04 Jun 2008 16:21 GMT
> But since you already have a fully-featured device for business travel,
> why bother carrying around supplementary iTrash?

It's rather a hassle to lug around a notebook PC on vacation, when all
you want is basic web access, and don't have to create presentations,
write reports, etc. The GPS on the notebook is rather klunky as well.
Then you still need a phone, and an MP3 player is nice to have while
traveling.

What I'd like (based on Phone Scoop searching):

    * Quad Band
    * Bluetooth
    * Calculator
    * Calendar
    * GPS / Location
    * Integrated PDA
    * Memory Card Slot
    * Music Player
    * Packet Data (HSDPA 1.8  or  HSDPA 3.6)
    * Speaker Phone
    * Vibrate
    * Voice Dialing
    * Voice Memo
    * WAP / Web Browser
    * Wi-Fi

At this point in time, the only available phone with these features is
the HTC Tilt. The new 3G iPhone will probably be pretty close, other
than the memory card slot. The PDA functions will come eventually.
News - 04 Jun 2008 16:24 GMT
>> But since you already have a fully-featured device for business
>> travel, why bother carrying around supplementary iTrash?
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> the HTC Tilt. The new 3G iPhone will probably be pretty close, other
> than the memory card slot. The PDA functions will come eventually.

HP iPaq PocketPC Phone has had most of that for years.
SMS - 04 Jun 2008 18:07 GMT
>>> But since you already have a fully-featured device for business
>>> travel, why bother carrying around supplementary iTrash?
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> HP iPaq PocketPC Phone has had most of that for years.

Except for 3G.

With more and more of the municipal wireless networks going dark, it's
going to be more necessary to have 3G service.
News - 04 Jun 2008 18:08 GMT
>>>> But since you already have a fully-featured device for business
>>>> travel, why bother carrying around supplementary iTrash?
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> With more and more of the municipal wireless networks going dark, it's
> going to be more necessary to have 3G service.

We see the cablecos splicing and hanging hotspots on their aerial lines.
 
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