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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / ATT Wireless / June 2008NEWS: Verizon seeking acquisition
Verizon wants to acquire Alltell so it can be bigger than AT&T. http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0428770820080604 > Verizon wants to acquire Alltell so it can be bigger than AT&T. > > http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0428770820080604 This will be interesting to watch..... The last time I waded through the FCC regulations, it said one company couldn't own BOTH 800 Mhz cellular systems in South Carolina. Unless those rules have changed, that's exactly what would happen, here, if VZW bought Alltel. It's a very sad day for Alltel customers all across the South. If it happens, it means the end of Sellphone internet service to all of us. Look up the word "divest"... It's what happens in these situations - many times in the past >> Verizon wants to acquire Alltell so it can be bigger than AT&T. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > It's a very sad day for Alltel customers all across the South. If it > happens, it means the end of Sellphone internet service to all of us. > This will be interesting to watch..... > > The last time I waded through the FCC regulations, it said one company > couldn't own BOTH 800 Mhz cellular systems in South Carolina. Unless those > rules have changed, that's exactly what would happen, here, if VZW bought > Alltel. As Dennis and others pointed out, those rules changed years ago. The new "rule" isn't even a rule- there's now a maximum 95 MHz "guideline" which was already broken by Verizon and AT&T in several markets as a result of the 700MHz auctions. (Both carriers now exceed 100MHz of spectrum in several markets!) > It's a very sad day for Alltel customers all across the South. If it > happens, it means the end of Sellphone internet service to all of us. I feel for you- really. I was a very happy Southwestern Bell Mobile Systems customer for many years when I lived in Kansas City. When they were a "regional" cellco, they had local customer service and local phone repair facilities (often with "while you wait" repair service!) It all went to pot when they became "Cingular" and "nationalized" everything. Service went south and coverage stayed the same, since roaming agreements previously covered the areas that became "native." Good luck, pal- if Verizon buys Alltel it'll be a dark day for Alltel service areas. > Verizon wants to acquire Alltell so it can be bigger than AT&T. > > http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0428770820080604 Ha HA Larry you and your Altell are about to get screwed! Don't you just love this turn of events? Price of GAS is going up, Whiskey is now out of sight since Jan 2008, inflation at all sides and now you will get a huge greedy cell phone company to deal with. You are going to have to double your fees to tune church organs to make ends meet. 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:86a7b073-3f3e-4b06-b699- c9b3f894e75e@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com: > now you will get a huge greedy cell phone > company to deal with. As someone has already poiinted out, this has been going on since 2004. > 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:86a7b073-3f3e-4b06-b699- > c9b3f894e75e@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > As someone has already poiinted out, this has been going on since > 2004. No it hasn't. There were talks twice before that went no where. It's actually Alltel that's looking to sell itself. The owners want out of this business. Good move, as Alltel lacks the economies of scale of a Verizon or AT&T. Unlikely that this deal would be stopped by the feds, seeing as they approved the AT&T/Cingular acquisition which was much larger, and reduced competition much more. > Verizon wants to acquire Alltell so it can be bigger than AT&T. > > http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0428770820080604 I doubt if Verizon cares all that much about bragging rights. They already have far more retail postpaid customers than AT&T. Perhaps for free mobile to mobile it does make a bit of a difference in marketing. It's good news for both Verizon and Alltel customers. SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:02G1k.4737$jI5.1489 @flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com: > It's good news for both Verizon and Alltel customers. No it's not. Alltel has cheap regional plans that will be all cancelled by the Verizon bean counters. Alltel has $10 unlimited data plans if you tether to a smartphone or $25 unlimited data plans to tether to phones like my Rokr Z6m with no restrictions I've ever bumped into. All that will go to sh.t if Verizon, the feature denial KING, takes over the Alltel system. They'll turn Alltel into another Verizon with hobbled up phones where Alltel customers have no hobbling at all of any features Motorola delivers. I won't be able to pop the microSD into my computer and download a ton of MP3 files to play on the phone's player. I won't be able to just take the pictures directly to the microSD card, pop it into the computer and move them off to the hard drive. There won't be any "MAKE RINGTONE" selection where you can make any funny MP3 file directly into a ringtone for free. Everything goes to sh.t when Verizon touches it......EVERYTHING. Larry brought next idea : > SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:02G1k.4737$jI5.1489 > @flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Everything goes to sh.t when Verizon touches it......EVERYTHING. Even you Larry. Even you > No it's not. Alltel has cheap regional plans that will be all cancelled by > the Verizon bean counters. Alltel has $10 unlimited data plans if you > tether to a smartphone or $25 unlimited data plans to tether to phones like > my Rokr Z6m with no restrictions I've ever bumped into. All that will go > to sh.t if Verizon, the feature denial KING, takes over the Alltel system. Verizon has always let users keep old plans. But yes, for new customers, those cheap data plans will be history. Hmm, maybe I should sign up for an Alltel plan, using a relative's address in an Alltel region to get that cheap data, then let it be grandfathered in to Alltel. Can you port a number to Alltel that's from an area where they don't have service? > They'll turn Alltel into another Verizon with hobbled up phones where > Alltel customers have no hobbling at all of any features Motorola delivers. It's a simple matter to unhobble the Motorola phones. > I won't be able to pop the microSD into my computer and download a ton of > MP3 files to play on the phone's player. I won't be able to just take the > pictures directly to the microSD card, pop it into the computer and move > them off to the hard drive. There won't be any "MAKE RINGTONE" selection > where you can make any funny MP3 file directly into a ringtone for free. You'll be able to do all of that with a SEEM edit. Anyway, for the normal users, the Verizon acquisition is a very good thing. Now there will be 80 million MTM oppportunities, so the Alltel customers can move to a lower peak minute plan. > Anyway, for the normal users, the Verizon acquisition is a very good > thing. How do you figure that? Verizon is already present in most Alltel markets. Ergo, most of Alltel's customers have already chosen Alltel OVER Verizon in the first place. Less competition is generally a bad thing, even if the company doing the buyout happens to be your favorite, Steven. Consumers had more options, more choices and more competitive rates when they had a field of seven carriers to choose from. The Sprint/Nextel and Cingular/AT&T mergers have made things worse, not better. An Alltel acquision and potential T- Mo/Sprint merger (or Sprint failure) will make this much worse- not better. Your statement is akin to claiming that it'll be "better" if Starbuck's buys out all of your local indie coffee shops since it'll give you more locations to use a single gift card! > Now there will be 80 million MTM oppportunities, so the > Alltel customers can move to a lower peak minute plan. Alltel uses their MyCircle plans as alternatives to the M2M "opportunities" available on other larger carriers, so they already have that covered. (T- Mobile, when they launched their "My Faves" plans, claimed that their data showed customers average 80% of their calls to/from the same five numbers. Arguably, a circle/faves plan is better for most people than M2M.) I'd rather have unlimited calling to and from the 5-10 numbers I personally pick, rather than have to base my carrier choice on who my friends or family chose, or worse, convince them to use the carrier I've chosen. Verizon will remove the "Circle" rate plan (from new customers) as well, preferring the "Amway" M2M marketing method. > Alltel uses their MyCircle plans as alternatives to the M2M > "opportunities" available on other larger carriers, so they already [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I've chosen. Verizon will remove the "Circle" rate plan (from new > customers) as well, preferring the "Amway" M2M marketing method. Alltel has M2M in addition to the My Circle on all their plans. You don't burn up a My Circle number if the other guy is an Alltel customer, anywhere. You're right about My Circle being dumped, too. Every advantage Alltel customers have enjoyed: truly unlimited internet service for $10 or $25/month tethering over Bluetooth or USB to other devices like my N800 or laptop Bluetooth file transfers of any file on the phone or its memory card OBEX support on the phones DUN support on the phones FTP support on the phones My Circle Regional big minute plans for little money Cameras that store direct to memory cards that plug into the computers MP3 players that play MP3s put on the memory cards without hacking Verizon's hobbleware. PDA/smartphones with ALL the features turned on without the hobbling ...all will be history....Gone. Alltel was getting ready to install LTE in a switch to GSM for really fast unlimited internet with 20ms latency....far better than CDMA provides....that won't happen, either. Verizon buys someone out, then just leaves it milking it for money without building it out any more. ....I think I'm gonna be sick.... > Alltel has M2M in addition to the My Circle on all their plans. You > don't burn up a My Circle number if the other guy is an Alltel customer, > anywhere. I realize that- my point was only that Alltel and T-Mo stepped up with circle plans to compensate for the fact that they don't have the 60+ million customers that VZW or AT&T have. The odds that Aunt Frannie is East Undershirt is an Alltel customer is a longer shot than, say, that she's with Verizon or AT&T. > ....I think I'm gonna be sick.... You've probably got a few years before a "computer glitch" "accidentally" forces you off your grandfathered Alltel plan. By then, perhaps, T- Sprinextel-Mobile will woo you with a six-band (800/900/1700/1800/1900/2100) tri-mode (GSM/HSDPA/WiMax) Nokia tablet-phone... ;-) |
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