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iPhone 3G - What DIDN'T you hear?

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Larry - 09 Jun 2008 20:02 GMT
I didn't hear any upgrades to its Safari, like Flash support, did you?

I didn't hear "multitasking" because it eats the battery?
That's like my Palm Pilot was.

I didn't hear about a user swappable battery.

I didn't hear about a removeable memory card I could hot swap to put the
pictures on that would fit my PC (or Mac).

Well, it has an earphone jack.  That's radical for Apple.
Ron - 09 Jun 2008 20:13 GMT
>I didn't hear

 (whines and whimpers of the Nokia fanboy deleted)

I heard:

Price is cut in half - Now $199.

I heard 3G - download speeds faster than any Nokia

I heard Corporate support - MS Exchange push email

I heard true GPS

I heard the apps store, with fantastic apps, many FREE.
  fantastic games with the iphone itself being the game controller,
tilt to move.

I heard International sales.

I heard 6 million of original iPhone sold.

I heard sale starts July 11 of 3G iPhone.
Kevin Weaver - 09 Jun 2008 21:06 GMT
Same thing we have been hearing,_heard_ for months now.
Still no actual product.

>>I didn't hear
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> I heard sale starts July 11 of 3G iPhone.
Larry - 09 Jun 2008 21:37 GMT
"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:g3g3k.2140
$L_.1953@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com:

> Same thing we have been hearing,_heard_ for months now.
> Still no actual product.

Any phone is a thousand times faster than the snail-like sellular data
network called 3G.  If you're not standing there with your phone up against
the panel antennas, 600-800K is "normal", except during the day when other
users are sharing your sector, then it's 500-700K if you're lucky.

His crack about Nokia left me stunned.  How can it be faster than ANYONE
ELSE's 3G phone on the SAME ATT SYSTEM that's only getting 700Kbps, nearly
putting the phone to sleep waiting for something to load.

I don't care about Nokia...my phone is a Motorola Z6m on EVDO/CDMA.  The
tablet's Bluetooth IS asleep waiting for data.

We could compare the tablet's speed potential with an iPhone on wifi if the
damned "new" iPhone ran Flash so it could run the speedtest websites....(c;
Ron - 10 Jun 2008 00:13 GMT
>"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:g3g3k.2140
>$L_.1953@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>ELSE's 3G phone on the SAME ATT SYSTEM that's only getting 700Kbps, nearly
>putting the phone to sleep waiting for something to load

Cause the Safari broswer is FASTER, thank you.
.

>I don't care about Nokia...my phone is a Motorola Z6m on EVDO/CDMA.  The
>tablet's Bluetooth IS asleep waiting for data.
>
>We could compare the tablet's speed potential with an iPhone on wifi if the
>damned "new" iPhone ran Flash so it could run the speedtest websites....(c;
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 10 Jun 2008 02:25 GMT
> Cause the Safari broswer is FASTER, thank you.

Java support?
Ron - 10 Jun 2008 02:35 GMT
>> Cause the Safari broswer is FASTER, thank you.
>
>Java support?

You need Java because?
Larry - 10 Jun 2008 02:41 GMT
> You need Java because?

....because NOAA uses it for their NEXRAD radar display.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 10 Jun 2008 03:13 GMT
> >> Cause the Safari broswer is FASTER, thank you.
> >
> >Java support?
>
> You need Java because?

Because I have a Java app I want to use?

You don't need or care about Java because?
Ron - 10 Jun 2008 08:28 GMT
>> >> Cause the Safari broswer is FASTER, thank you.
>> >
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>
>You don't need or care about Java because?

cause the iPhone does more than I need it to already.

and your app is?
Larry - 10 Jun 2008 02:47 GMT
> Cause the Safari broswer is FASTER, thank you.
> .

The browser....ANY browser...isn't any faster than that PINHOLE into the
internet called 3G or 2G.

Let's test this theory.  STORE, if you can, a 5GB webpage on the iPhone or
Mac.  Store the same webpage on a PC using Firefox, IE or Opera.

Uh, uh, uh....no fair if the webpage has anything the Safari won't
render....

Boot 'em off the local storage and time it.  What?  Your stopwatch can't
measure milliseconds?

Do the same over ATT Wireless' 3G pinhole from the net.  Times the
same....hype or no hype...because the NET PINHOLE is what's slowing it down
not the browser!  How stupid.
Larry - 09 Jun 2008 21:31 GMT
>>I didn't hear
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> I heard sale starts July 11 of 3G iPhone.

Did you hear about voice commands to dial the phone like my MotoROKR Z6m?
The Bob - 10 Jun 2008 00:53 GMT
>>I didn't hear
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Price is cut in half - Now $199.

Which makes it more expensive than a number of smartphones with more
functionality

> I heard 3G - download speeds faster than any Nokia

Speed is determined by network, not product.  You do know how this stuff
works, don't you?

> I heard Corporate support - MS Exchange push email

How is that cutting edge?  The last three phones I've had have supported
that.

> I heard true GPS

Again, hardly cutting-edge.  More like catch up.

> I heard the apps store, with fantastic apps, many FREE.
>    fantastic games with the iphone itself being the game controller,
> tilt to move.

Yet to be seen.

> I heard International sales.

So?

> I heard 6 million of original iPhone sold.

So?

> I heard sale starts July 11 of 3G iPhone.

Oh boy.
 
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