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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / ATT Wireless / June 2008Paul Thurrott - "You need an iPhone"
a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008 "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons to ignore this seismic shift in mobile and cloud computing. I've said it before and I'll say it again: The iPhone is a dramatically important computing platform and one you should not ignore. Trust me, once you've used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison." much more here.... http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/iphone3g_preview.asp http://www.apple.com/iphone/ In article <meetme-4DCFEA.00303011062008@n003-000-000-000.static.ge.com>, > a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > http://www.apple.com/iphone/ Ah, everybody knows that Thurrott is just a "Maccie"... LOL  Signature"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" -- "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone "It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X) '[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' -- 'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM) 'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun) >In article ><meetme-4DCFEA.00303011062008@n003-000-000-000.static.ge.com>, [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >LOL 100% WRONG Dont like the message try to descredit the messanger? Paul is a Microsft person, and has dozens of great books telling about Windows the things Microsoft left out of their manuals. His book on Windows XP, I belive is the largest selling XP book out there. Windows XP Secrets He has Windows web site: http://www.winsupersite.com > >> With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative > >> device to just $200, while fixing all of the major issues I described in > >> How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, there are precious few reasons... Can it do voice-dialing through Bluetooth yet? Signaturem-m > a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > http://www.apple.com/iphone/ He should try using one. I dumped the iPhone and went to the BB8830. You can understand what people are saying on the bb, not so on the iPhone. > Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008 > > "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather > than later. With Apple dropping the entry price on this innovative > device to just $200 Yebbut, what about that $800 long tail of service obligation... , while fixing all of the major issues I described in > How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS. Still a fashion accessory, no more. > > Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008 > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Still a fashion accessory, no more. This great new iPhone still does not do MMS. WTF? and no SMS with the $30 data plan? Talk about service contract hell..... > > > Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008 > > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > This great new iPhone still does not do MMS. WTF? MMS is doomed in the long run. Why bother on a device that has a high-speed connection to the wider Internet, and can send and receive real e-mail with attachments? Signature"No one has supported President Bush on Iraq more than I have." -McCain in April "I disagreed strongly with the Bush administration's mismanagement of the war in Iraq." -McCain in June >>>> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008 >>>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > high-speed connection to the wider Internet, and can send and receive > real e-mail with attachments? So you can communicate with people in the real world who have MMS capabilites (only). Steve > >>>> Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008 > >>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Steve Gee... If only someone could figure out how to make a device automatically convert an email message into an MMS message and vice versa... <http://www.modmyifone.com/wiki/index.php/MMS_Email_Addresses> Signature"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" -- "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone "It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X) '[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' -- 'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM) 'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun) > MMS is doomed in the long run. Why bother on a device that has a > high-speed connection to the wider Internet, and can send and receive > real e-mail with attachments? Because MMS is the "poor man's push e-mail." Personally I hardly use it, since I use a smartphone that handles e-mail and attachments, but it's still the quickest and dirtiest way to quickly send a picture or video to someone else's dumbphone. Any higher-end/more featured product should incorporate a super-set of the features lower-end products have- not only higher-end features incompatible with other products. The iPhone's lack of MMS is either just laziness on the part of it's developers, or snobbishness of Apple's brass. >> MMS is doomed in the long run. Why bother on a device that has a >> high-speed connection to the wider Internet, and can send and receive [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > The iPhone's lack of MMS is either just laziness on the part of it's > developers, or snobbishness of Apple's brass. I vote for snobbishness. Like how we don't have multimedia card readers on ANY Mac. Steve > > > ZnU: > > > MMS is doomed in the long run. Why bother on a device that has a > > > high-speed connection to the wider Internet, and can send and > > > receive real e-mail with attachments? > > Todd Allcock: > > Because MMS is the "poor man's push e-mail." Personally I hardly [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > The iPhone's lack of MMS is either just laziness on the part of > > it's developers, or snobbishness of Apple's brass. > Steve de Mena: > I vote for snobbishness. Like how we don't have multimedia card > readers on ANY Mac. Huh? I have in my MacBook Pro. SignatureSandman[.net] >Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS. Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store, where you download apps straight to the iPhone, many of them (like a Reuters feed) FREE. http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/appstore.html Best of all, they're vetted by Apple, so you wont have the issues with apps causing lockups, like on Palm, Windoze, and RIM devices. <bollocks snipped> > Best of all, they're vetted by Apple, Do you have to get up especially early to practice being this f.cking stoopid? Now take your cross-posted shite and keep it to relevant groups. XP'd & FU'd SignatureUnlock Your Phone's Potential www.UselessInfo.org.uk www.ThePhoneLocker.co.uk www.GSM-Solutions.co.uk >>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS. > > Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store If you call those "APPS", there is no reasoning with you.... >>>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS. >> >> Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store > >If you call those "APPS", there is no reasoning with you.... If it doesnt mirror some trivial Palm app that locks up any Treo, there's no reasoning with You. >>>>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS. >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > If it doesnt mirror some trivial Palm app that locks up any Treo, > there's no reasoning with You. Wouldn't know. I have never used a Palm device. > >>Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS. > > > > Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store > > If you call those "APPS", there is no reasoning with you.... Poke around a bit for articles about the iPhone SDK this week at WWDC. Or, if pictures are easier for you than words, watch the WWDC keynote video and see examples of some of the upcoming applications being demoed. > Best of all, they're vetted by Apple, so you wont have the issues with > apps causing lockups, like on Palm, Windoze, and RIM devices. I'm saving this statement to My Documents for later......(c; > Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store, where > you download apps straight to the iPhone, many of them (like a Reuters [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Best of all, they're vetted by Apple, so you wont have the issues with > apps causing lockups, like on Palm, Windoze, and RIM devices. yes, that's a nice feature, plus it's on OSX so you won't have to deal with quirky issues like Windows users are force to work with every day. it's one incredible device, that's for sure. How can you say that ? Being there are no apps yet. Why do you think there only going to allow one app to run at a time ? Because it may lock up. Time will tell when the apps start showing up. >> Guess you didnt see the announcement of the iPhone App store, where >> you download apps straight to the iPhone, many of them (like a Reuters [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > it's one incredible device, that's for sure. > , while fixing all of the major issues I described in > > How Apple Can Fix the iPhone in 2008, > > Yebbut, what about the lack of APPS? Still NO APPS. ah, there are over 1700 apps for the iPhone, with 1000's more coming on July 11th. http://www.apple.com/webapps/ > Still a fashion accessory, no more. nah, the iPhone is far and away the most sophiscated cell phone you can buy. It has the largest library of quality apps, the longest battery life, the easy to navigate UI, the only phone with a real browser, etc, etc, etc. no other cell phone is even close to the iphone in overall functionality. "David Moyer" <meetme@world.com> stated in post meetme-4DCFEA.00303011062008@n003-000-000-000.static.ge.com on 6/10/08 11:30 PM: > a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > http://www.apple.com/iphone/ But... but... Steve Carroll wants me to defend the idea that the iPhone is industry changing. Maybe if he read a thing or two about the device he would understand. Then again, speaking out of his other brain he claimed to agree me. Someday, I hope, he learns to be consistent. :) SignatureTry not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value. --Albert Einstein > a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. > Paul Thurrott -- June 10, 2008 > > "I cannot stress this enough: You need to get an iPhone. Sooner rather > than later. <snip> > Trust me, once you've > used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows Mobile device you're settling > on now will seem like ancient Soviet-era technology by comparison." > much more here.... it will? i ported over from verizon to at&t and tried out an iphone for a few weeks, and just ported back over to verizon and a htc touch (xv6900 on verizon) this weekend, and i'm digging it so far. maybe if some extra super news about the new iphone comes out in the next few weeks i'll port back over, but i'm really digging the customizability, flexibility, and speed of this phone. :D > http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/iphone3g_preview.asp > http://www.apple.com/iphone/ > it will? i ported over from verizon to at&t and tried out an iphone > for a few weeks, and just ported back over to verizon and a htc touch > (xv6900 on verizon) this weekend, and i'm digging it so far. maybe if > some extra super news about the new iphone comes out in the next few > weeks i'll port back over, but i'm really digging the customizability, > flexibility, and speed of this phone. :D The XV6800 is what set the bar for Apple's iPhone revision in terms of features, other than the iPhone's lack of a slide-out keyboard, lack of a memory card slot, and lack of a user-replaceable battery, the new iPhone is a worthy competitor. > The XV6800 is what set the bar for Apple's iPhone revision in terms of > features, other than the iPhone's lack of a slide-out keyboard, lack of > a memory card slot, and lack of a user-replaceable battery, the new > iPhone is a worthy competitor. the iPhone keyboard works FAR better than the old physical ones, it's where all cell phones will eventually end up since you can type faster and you can still use the whole screen for other tasks when the keyboard is not in use. you can add a memory card slot, you've been able to do that for years. and the battery is user replaceable, it's just $24. http://www.meritline.com/iphone-battery-tools-451.html so you might want to learn how to research before you post again. thanks!! >> The XV6800 is what set the bar for Apple's iPhone revision in terms of >> features, other than the iPhone's lack of a slide-out keyboard, lack of [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >so you might want to learn how to research before you post again. >thanks!! Is that one of those Chinese exploding batteries? And its hardly near instantaneous to change batteries. > >so you might want to learn how to research before you post again. > >thanks!! > > Is that one of those Chinese exploding batteries? And its hardly near > instantaneous to change batteries. the exploding batteries where on laptops because the chemistry was wrong, it never affected ipods or iphones. the battery is easily replaceable is the point, and a lot of people don't know this. sure, chances are 99% you'd have a new iPhone before the old one begins to lose charge, but the ignorance about iPhone and iPod batteries is amazing... they are ALL user replaceable! - >> >so you might want to learn how to research before you post again. >> >thanks!! [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > the old one begins to lose charge, but the ignorance about iPhone and > iPod batteries is amazing... So the reason we would have a new iPhone before the battery wears out is ? Ohh I get it. The phone will crap out before the battery will. > they are ALL user replaceable! Tell that to apple. At 199 for the phone and there charging 79.00 to replace the battery ? Can you say bend over ? I knew you could. > - >> The XV6800 is what set the bar for Apple's iPhone revision in terms of >> features, other than the iPhone's lack of a slide-out keyboard, lack of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > you can add a memory card slot, you've been able to do that for years. Huh? The iPhone has been out for only about a year, how could you have been able to add a memory card slot "for years?" What is the accessory that allows you to add a memory card? > and the battery is user replaceable, it's just $24. > > http://www.meritline.com/iphone-battery-tools-451.html Yes, for those comfortable doing soldering it's user-replacable, LOL. > so you might want to learn how to research before you post again. > thanks!! Look in the mirror please. Thanks!! > > The XV6800 is what set the bar for Apple's iPhone revision in terms of > > features, other than the iPhone's lack of a slide-out keyboard, lack of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > and you can still use the whole screen for other tasks when the keyboard > is not in use. With a physical keyboard you can see the whole screen even when the keyboard is in use! > you can add a memory card slot... To the iPhone? How? > ...you've been able to do that for years. The iPhone is 11 months old- you haven't been able to anything to it "for years." > and the battery is user replaceable, it's just $24. > > http://www.meritline.com/iphone-battery-tools-451.html +$5 or so for the soldering iron. Or do you still stand by your old "there are clips under the tape" story? > so you might want to learn how to research before you post again. > thanks!! Pot, kettle, black... > > the iPhone keyboard works FAR better than the old physical ones, it's > > where all cell phones will eventually end up since you can type faster [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > With a physical keyboard you can see the whole screen even when the > keyboard is in use! but screens on Blackberries and Nokia's are microscopic so that's a poor argument. > > you can add a memory card slot... > > To the iPhone? How? belkin sells one. > > ...you've been able to do that for years. > The iPhone is 11 months old- you haven't been able to anything to it "for [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > +$5 or so for the soldering iron. Or do you still stand by your old "there > are clips under the tape" story? just install one in 3 years and find out. > > so you might want to learn how to research before you post again. > > thanks!! > > Pot, kettle, black... you continuously don't understand the market, not me. >> The XV6800 is what set the bar for Apple's iPhone revision in terms of >> features, other than the iPhone's lack of a slide-out keyboard, lack of [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > so you might want to learn how to research before you post again. > thanks!! The iPhone has no memory card slot nor user-replaceable battery. Steve > > http://www.meritline.com/iphone-battery-tools-451.html > > > > so you might want to learn how to research before you post again. > > thanks!! > > The iPhone has no memory card slot nor user-replaceable battery. but you can always add one, and obviously you can replace your battery when the time comes. cost is around $12-$25. >>> http://www.meritline.com/iphone-battery-tools-451.html >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > but you can always add one, and obviously you can replace your battery > when the time comes. cost is around $12-$25. The iPhone has no memory card slot nor user-replaceable battery. Steve >>>> http://www.meritline.com/iphone-battery-tools-451.html >>>> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > The iPhone has no memory card slot nor user-replaceable battery. Not from Apple, but there are add-ons available. I saw one jury-rigged iPhone that had these features added. See "http://i32.tinypic.com/6fcydz.jpg". >>>>> http://www.meritline.com/iphone-battery-tools-451.html >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > iPhone that had these features added. See > "http://i32.tinypic.com/6fcydz.jpg". I'll say it again. The iPhone has no memory card slot nor user-replaceable battery. Steve >>> http://www.meritline.com/iphone-battery-tools-451.html >>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > but you can always add one, and obviously you can replace your battery > when the time comes. cost is around $12-$25. Oxford, you're such a retard... You can't "add" a memory card slot, and the battery is not "user replaceable" as you've continually claimed. Unless you have soldering skills. You keep claiming Belkin sells a memory card slot. But the fact is, they don't sell any such device whatsoever for the iPhone. http://www.belkin.com/ipod/iphone/ >>>> http://www.meritline.com/iphone-battery-tools-451.html >>>> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > http://www.belkin.com/ipod/iphone/ At one time there was a media reader from Belkin that worked with the old iPods that had a 1394 interface. This is probably where Oxford is confused (one of many places where he's confused). >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >http://www.apple.com/iphone/ "What bothers me most about that Thurrot site is he posts short "sound bite" comments with no critical analysis, and hides behind the fact that the site does not accept comments. I can see why, since nearly every one of his posts would be refuted by relevant facts. Still, the solution should be for Thurrot to clean up his reporting, not disallow comments. " http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/bde33da9cee4d6a3?dmode= source "Seems that Mr. Thurrot doesn't understand a lot of stuff: " http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/4d3cdbea6948ceef?dmode= source Among many others. It seems that Paul Thurott's opinion is worthless and uninformed...unless he says something positive about an Apple product. Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8) > >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. > > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > You are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of "statement against interest"... Signature"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" -- "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone "It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X) '[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' -- 'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM) 'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun) >> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. >> > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > You are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of "statement against > interest"... We sure are. It's the concept you try to invoke every time you attempt to weasel out of your previous argument that conflicts with your current argument. > >> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. > >> > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > weasel out of your previous argument that conflicts with your current > argument. Give an example... Signature"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" -- "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone "It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X) '[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' -- 'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM) 'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun) >> >> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the >> >> >planet. [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > Give an example... Certainly. Take a look at this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/browse_frm/thread/bd9da39d9 e3ce729/6a7674d92e39c2d6?lnk=raot#6a7674d92e39c2d6 You're welcome > >> >> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the > >> >> >planet. [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > > You're welcome Sorry, but "Take a look at this thread" isn't providing an example. Signature"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" -- "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone "It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X) '[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' -- 'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM) 'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun) >> >> >> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the >> >> >> >planet. [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > Sorry, but "Take a look at this thread" isn't providing an example. What's it like to just throw away facts that you don't like? > >> >> >> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the > >> >> >> >planet. [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > > What's it like to just throw away facts that you don't like? You presented no facts. I asked for an example. That would involve you providing a quote of my text and then explaining how it fits your claim. You provided nothing like that. Signature"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" -- "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone "It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X) '[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' -- 'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM) 'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun) >>> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. >>> > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >weasel out of your previous argument that conflicts with your current >argument. You've got to remember that these guys are heavily invested in their own persecution complexes. So heavily invested that it simply never even occurs to them that anyone who doesn't share their delusions is giving an honest opinion. Paul Thurott is clearly a Windows booster. In a Maccie's paranoid mind this means that his hatred for Apple burns with the intensity of 1,000 suns. That he doesn't have the same reverent, worshipful awestruck devotion to Apple that they do only serves to 'prove' this delusion in their minds. They simply cannot concieve of the notion that Apple could just be another company, its products just other devices to anyone. Anyone who make such a statement is just using 'code' in an attempt to disguise his burning hatred for Apple in the Maccie's view. That's how we get to asinine things like praising an Apple product is making a 'statement against interest' for a guy who runs a Windows oriented website. Its a major breakthrough, you see, becaue a guy whose hatred of Apple burns with the intensity of 1,000 suns just said Apple did something right. Never mind the reality that Paul Thurott is just giving his independent opinion of a product on its own merits as he sees them, like he always does. This must surely be a Road To Damascus moment! Since Maccies worship and follow the dictates of Steve Jobs they assume that Windows people do the same for prominent people in the Windows world. They see Paul Thurott's 'conversion' as hope that all will soon bend their knee and bow their head in the direction of Cupertino five times a day like they do. Its all pretty damn amusing. It gets even more amusing when you realize that they are deadly serious about the whole thing. > Its all pretty damn amusing. It gets even more amusing when you > realize that they are deadly serious about the whole thing. I find it as scary as the dilution of thousands of people that the world will come to an end December 22, 2012. Boy are THEY in for a shock....(c; Remember when Oral Roberts was going to be "recalled" if we didn't send him $1,000,000 by a certain date? > > Its all pretty damn amusing. It gets even more amusing when you > > realize that they are deadly serious about the whole thing. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Remember when Oral Roberts was going to be "recalled" if we didn't send him > $1,000,000 by a certain date? Was that supposed to happen? If I'd known, I'd like to have made a negative "donation". :-) Signature"The iPhone doesn't have a speaker phone" -- "I checked very carefully" -- "I checked Apple's web pages" -- Edwin on the iPhone "It is Mac OS X, not BSD.' -- 'From Mac OS to BSD Unix." -- "It's BSD Unix with Apple's APIs and GUI on top of it' -- 'nothing but BSD Unix' (Edwin on Mac OS X) '[The IBM PC] could boot multiple OS, such as DOS, C/PM, GEM, etc.' -- 'I claimed nothing about GEM other than it was available software for the IBM PC. (Edwin on GEM) 'Solaris is just a marketing rename of Sun OS.' -- 'Sun OS is not included on the timeline of Solaris because it's a different OS.' (Edwin on Sun) IN A NOKIA GROUP??? WHY??? >> >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. >> > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > You are apparently unfamiliar with the concept of "statement against > interest"... >>a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. >> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Then he becomes a beacon of truth and righteousness cutting through > the night. And the Maccies wonder why we are so amused by them. 8) My first thought when I read Alan's post. > a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > http://www.apple.com/iphone/ I'm not surprised since they're almost giving the thing away. >> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >I'm not surprised since they're almost giving the thing away. Yesterday the anti-Apple crowd wasw complaining that you could still find a RIM or Palm cheaper. >>> a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. >>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Yesterday the anti-Apple crowd wasw complaining that you could still > find a RIM or Palm cheaper. And? > a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > http://www.apple.com/iphone/ And of course you neglect to mention that you're going to be bound to spend $1680 plus taxes and surcharges over the span of the minimum two year contract you must agree to. > > http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/iphone3g_preview.asp > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > spend $1680 plus taxes and surcharges over the span of the minimum two > year contract you must agree to. and exactly the same as any other 3G cel phone. please check fact facts before you post, thanks. >>>http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/iphone3g_preview.asp >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > please check fact facts before you post, thanks. Please check yours. You are simply incorrect, even on AT&T. > > And of course you neglect to mention that you're going to be bound to > > spend $1680 plus taxes and surcharges over the span of the minimum two [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > please check fact facts before you post, thanks. Generally AT&T charges two rates for data, regardless of whether the phone had 3G or not- the $20/month "MediaNet" plan for "feature" phones (no physical keyboard) and $30/month for "smartphones" (with physical keyboard.) So, no, the new iPhone Deux isn't paying the same rate as a typical AT&T phone in it's class, but is paying the higher smartphone with keyboard rate. Ever try one of those "comfort height" toilets? You GOTTA get one. Makes dropping an iPhone a pleasure. Sign Me, "Still trying to figure out how an iPhone will help me make phone calls. Not trying to run a business from the palm of my hand, just want to make phone calls. My Verizon phone works fine." Dean >a very good read from one the most hardcore Windows Users on the planet. > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > http://www.apple.com/iphone/ > Ever try one of those "comfort height" toilets? > > You GOTTA get one. Makes dropping an iPhone a pleasure. Make sure it isn't a "low flow". Those you gotta flush twice. Thanks, actually THREE times. That iPhone is a BIIIG turd. Dean >> Ever try one of those "comfort height" toilets? >> >> You GOTTA get one. Makes dropping an iPhone a pleasure. > > Make sure it isn't a "low flow". Those you gotta flush twice. > Trust me, once you've used an iPhone, that Blackberry or Windows > Mobile device you're settling on now will seem like ancient > Soviet-era technology by comparison." You mean until I try to copy/paste? :-) |
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