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No docking Station with the new iPhone ?

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Kevin Weaver - 13 Jun 2008 02:15 GMT
I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with the
1.0

2.0 owner's will have to pony up 29.99 for one.
Another gotcha from apple.
DevilsPGD - 13 Jun 2008 02:24 GMT
>I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with the
>1.0
>
>2.0 owner's will have to pony up 29.99 for one.
>Another gotcha from apple.

This is probably how they're paying for the price drop *snicker*
Kevin Weaver - 13 Jun 2008 03:54 GMT
>>I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with
>>the
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>
> This is probably how they're paying for the price drop *snicker*

No doubt.
Ron - 13 Jun 2008 15:55 GMT
>I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with the
>1.0
>
>2.0 owner's will have to pony up 29.99 for one.
>Another gotcha from apple.

No SCSI cable either.
Kevin Weaver - 14 Jun 2008 03:59 GMT
Is the iPhone SCSI ? No. So tell us why apple put one in the box on 1.0 but
not 2.0 ?

>>I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with
>>the
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>
> No SCSI cable either.
DevilsPGD - 14 Jun 2008 04:22 GMT
>>I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with the
>>1.0
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>
>No SCSI cable either.

Nor a parallel cable, but since the iPhone supports neither SCSI or
parallel, neither of these is a surprise.
Ron - 14 Jun 2008 12:12 GMT
>>>I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with the
>>>1.0
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>Nor a parallel cable, but since the iPhone supports neither SCSI or
>parallel, neither of these is a surprise.

One could synch their iPhone in iTunes with any means of connectivity.
DevilsPGD - 15 Jun 2008 03:59 GMT
>>>>I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with the
>>>>1.0
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>
>One could synch their iPhone in iTunes with any means of connectivity.

Okay, so you're saying you can connect an iPhone to iTunes with a
parallel or SCSI cable?
Tim Smith - 16 Jun 2008 02:55 GMT
> Okay, so you're saying you can connect an iPhone to iTunes with a
> parallel or SCSI cable?

You connect it with the cable that will be included in the box.

All they've done is stop including the *dock*.  The cable is still
there.  If you buy a dock, you can plug the cable into the dock, and
then put the iPhone in the dock.  Without a dock, you plug the cable
directly into the iPhone.

What the dock gives you is:

(1) Convenience.  You can easily dock the phone with one hand.  With the
cable, you probably will need both hands.

(2) The phone sitting in the dock is up at an angle where you can easily
read it.  If a call comes in, you could easily read the caller ID and
decide whether to pick up or not.  If the phone is hooked straight to
the cable, it is probably sitting flat on your desk, so you may not have
a good view of the display.

(3) The dock provides a line-out, which would be convenient for hooking
the phone to your sound card or to a desktop stereo, if you wanted to
use it as a music player.

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Elmo P. Shagnasty - 16 Jun 2008 03:19 GMT
> (3) The dock provides a line-out, which would be convenient for hooking
> the phone to your sound card or to a desktop stereo, if you wanted to
> use it as a music player.

....b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but.......

.......since you're synchronizing it with iTunes while it's plugged in,
then you just play your music straight from iTunes and not from the
iPod.....

..............ummmmmmmmmm.........
Tim Smith - 17 Jun 2008 02:28 GMT
> > (3) The dock provides a line-out, which would be convenient for hooking
> > the phone to your sound card or to a desktop stereo, if you wanted to
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>
> ..............ummmmmmmmmm.........

Ah, but what if I don't have my iTunes library on that computer?  I have
more than one computer, but only keep my iTunes library on one of them.

Suppose at work you've got a computer, and you have a software VOIP
phone, so you want to keep your headphones plugged into the computer.  I
could see hooking up an iPod to the line-in on the computer, so you can
use the computer's sound system to listen to the music your iPod is
playing, rather than having the hassle of having to move you headphones
between the computer and iPod when you get a phone call, or having to
have two sets of headphones.

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Jeffrey Kaplan - 17 Jun 2008 17:43 GMT
Previously on alt.cellular.attws, Tim Smith said:

> Ah, but what if I don't have my iTunes library on that computer?  I have
> more than one computer, but only keep my iTunes library on one of them.

I have not yet tried it on my Windows computer, but on my brother's
iBook, iTunes can play directly from the iPod without needing its own
library on the computer.

I can do that with Winamp and my iPod, I see no reason why iTunes in
Windows wouldn't be able to do the same.

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DevilsPGD - 16 Jun 2008 06:53 GMT
>> Okay, so you're saying you can connect an iPhone to iTunes with a
>> parallel or SCSI cable?
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>the phone to your sound card or to a desktop stereo, if you wanted to
>use it as a music player.

Understood.  I'm a bit of a cradle/dock fan, with virtually all of my
devices having one, mainly for cable control.

I was just trying to figure out what "Ron" is talking about when he
refers to the lack of SCSI cable being included with an iPhone, since
the iPhone doesn't have a SCSI interface.
Kevin Weaver - 16 Jun 2008 05:37 GMT
You must have a huge hard-on for SCSI cables.

>>I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with
>>the
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>
> No SCSI cable either.
zwsdotcom@gmail.com - 14 Jun 2008 20:30 GMT
On Jun 12, 9:15 pm, "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithwea...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with the
> 1.0

I have never seen anyone actually use the dock. Mine, my wife's, the
people I work with - all of them have the dock still sitting in the
retail box, wherever that is.
David Moyer - 15 Jun 2008 02:28 GMT
In article
<866326dd-4618-40b9-b75f-5ac77fdeff29@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,

> On Jun 12, 9:15 pm, "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithwea...@sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
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> people I work with - all of them have the dock still sitting in the
> retail box, wherever that is.

yep, 10% or less ever used the dock... if you want mine, send me $40.

thanks.
4phun - 15 Jun 2008 03:59 GMT
On Jun 12, 9:15 pm, "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithwea...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with the
> 1.0
>
> 2.0 owner's will have to pony up 29.99 for one.
> Another gotcha from apple.

I use the dock all the time. It is not worth $29.
Todd Allcock - 15 Jun 2008 22:26 GMT
> I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with
the 1.0

> 2.0 owner's will have to pony up 29.99 for one.
> Another gotcha from apple.

To be fair, it's not like you lose any functionality- most Pocket PCs and
WinMo phones no longer include cradles but only charge/sync cables as a
cost-saving move.  Maybe Navas will make a FAQ about it someday...  ;-)
Tim Smith - 16 Jun 2008 02:57 GMT
> I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with the
> 1.0
>
> 2.0 owner's will have to pony up 29.99 for one.
> Another gotcha from apple.

Why would they need to buy a dock?  It only has minor advantages over
plugging the cable (which is included with iPhone 2.0, just as it was
with 1.0) directly into the iPhone.

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Kevin Weaver - 16 Jun 2008 05:30 GMT
The dock has audio out. The point is they reduce the price at a cost of
taking things away that were in the iPhone 1.0 But apple will have a dock
that will fit for iPhone 2.0 at a 29.99 cost.

>> I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with
>> the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> plugging the cable (which is included with iPhone 2.0, just as it was
> with 1.0) directly into the iPhone.
DevilsPGD - 16 Jun 2008 08:04 GMT
>> I see that apple took away the docking station that came in the box with the
>> 1.0
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Why would they need to buy a dock?

Some of us like docks.

>It only has minor advantages over
>plugging the cable (which is included with iPhone 2.0, just as it was
>with 1.0) directly into the iPhone.

It also keeps cable clutter down, which is my big incentive.
Todd Allcock - 16 Jun 2008 16:16 GMT
> >It only has minor advantages over
> >plugging the cable (which is included with iPhone 2.0, just as it was
> >with 1.0) directly into the iPhone.
>
> It also keeps cable clutter down, which is my big incentive.

That's why the Good Lord gave us Bluetooth!  ;-)  (Not that the iPhone can
use it, of course...)
DevilsPGD - 17 Jun 2008 02:54 GMT
>> >It only has minor advantages over
>> >plugging the cable (which is included with iPhone 2.0, just as it was
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>That's why the Good Lord gave us Bluetooth!  ;-)  (Not that the iPhone can
>use it, of course...)

I've been using Bluetooth for some years, but my AT&T Tilt just won't
seem to hold a charge unless I use the USB cable instead of Bluetooth.
 
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