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David Moyer - 03 Jul 2008 20:59 GMT
And they keep on coming!

Check this out below... and the big iPhone release is still 8 days away.

http://stevenscreek.com/iPhone/triplog.htm

If you haven't seen the entertaining 3G iPhone Tour, be sure to do so,
it will change the entire cell phone industry!

Choose the highest level your broadband connection will support for the
best experience ->

http://www.apple.com/iphone/guidedtour/

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Steve Sobol - 03 Jul 2008 22:11 GMT
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> And they keep on coming!

And the iPhone fanboy a.sholes keep posting to VZ and Sprint newsgroups where
they are completely offtopic.

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David Moyer - 04 Jul 2008 02:24 GMT
> > And they keep on coming!
>
> And the iPhone fanboy a.sholes keep posting to VZ and Sprint newsgroups where
> they are completely offtopic.

why are they off topic? Someday you too will own an iPhone, it's just a
question of when... so posting info about the iPhone is VERY important
to everyone that owns a Cell Phone of any type.

Apple will lovingly control this entire space within 10 years, so get
used to high quality phones from Apple. The iPhone is just the first in
a long series of great internet communicators. (see iPod history)

you can learn more here:

http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html

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ps: 1 group penalty for setting your follow up incorrectly. please learn
how USENET works... thanks!
Steve Sobol - 04 Jul 2008 03:54 GMT
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>> > And they keep on coming!
>>
>> And the iPhone fanboy a.sholes keep posting to VZ and Sprint newsgroups where
>> they are completely offtopic.
>
> why are they off topic? Someday you too will own an iPhone

Well, hm, dumbass... the iPhone is only available on one specific network
in each country in which it's offered...

there are no CDMA iPhones and Sprint and Verizon are both CDMA...

and no, I won't ever own an iPhone. Pretty presumptuous to assume you know
anything all about me or my needs...

> ps: 1 group penalty for setting your follow up incorrectly. please learn
> how USENET works... thanks!

Now THAT'S ironic :D Fanboy idiot spammer explaining Netiquette to me. :)

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David Moyer - 04 Jul 2008 04:29 GMT
> >> > And they keep on coming!
> >>
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> Well, hm, dumbass... the iPhone is only available on one specific network
> in each country in which it's offered...

but those non-iphone networks will quickly wither away, that is...
unless apple grants them an iphone version to work on their aging
network. plus at&t owns the new 700Mhz spectrum starting next year, say
goodbye to Verizon, Sprint, etc.

> there are no CDMA iPhones and Sprint and Verizon are both CDMA...
>
> and no, I won't ever own an iPhone. Pretty presumptuous to assume you know
> anything all about me or my needs...

so how exactly are you going to communicate with people in 10 years?
sounds like you didn't think your response through.

> > ps: 1 group penalty for setting your follow up incorrectly. please learn
> > how USENET works... thanks!
>
> Now THAT'S ironic :D Fanboy idiot spammer explaining Netiquette to me. :)

you fixed your follow up in this response so my educating you has
helped. i've posted to USENET far longer than you, so i know all the
features, so either learn from me or go away.

the party starts here:

http://www.apple.com/webapps/productivity/

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Justin - 04 Jul 2008 04:47 GMT
David Moyer wrote on [Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:29:21 -0600]:

>> >> > And they keep on coming!
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> network. plus at&t owns the new 700Mhz spectrum starting next year, say
> goodbye to Verizon, Sprint, etc.

Um, no. Verizon got the most of the 700Mhz spectrum

>> and no, I won't ever own an iPhone. Pretty presumptuous to assume you know
>> anything all about me or my needs...
>
> so how exactly are you going to communicate with people in 10 years?

Telepathy
Dennis Ferguson - 04 Jul 2008 05:21 GMT
> David Moyer wrote on [Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:29:21 -0600]:
>> but those non-iphone networks will quickly wither away, that is...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Um, no. Verizon got the most of the 700Mhz spectrum

Verizon got most of the C Block, the "open access" block.  AT&T
got a majority of the licenses in the B Block.

Dennis Ferguson
Todd Allcock - 04 Jul 2008 06:34 GMT
> but those non-iphone networks will quickly wither away, that is...
> unless apple grants them an iphone version to work on their aging
> network.

Hmmm... that's what you said last year when iPhone I was released.  Where's
the withering?

> plus at&t owns the new 700Mhz spectrum starting next year, say
> goodbye to Verizon, Sprint, etc.

Verizon bought as much, if not more, 700MHz spectrum than AT&T.
Justin - 04 Jul 2008 04:52 GMT
Steve Sobol wrote on [Fri, 4 Jul 2008 02:54:14 +0000 (UTC)]:
> ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.verizon.]
>>
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> Well, hm, dumbass... the iPhone is only available on one specific network
> in each country in which it's offered...

Really?

Last I heard Optus, Telstra, Vodafone and 3 were carrying it in
Australia
Steve Sobol - 04 Jul 2008 17:03 GMT
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> Last I heard Optus, Telstra, Vodafone and 3 were carrying it in
> Australia

I have not hear that. Cite please? (I know Vodafone has the iPhone in a bunch
of markets. Was not aware of the others.)

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Joe Gill - 04 Jul 2008 19:29 GMT
> And they keep on coming!
>
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>
> ---

Wow! another posting from an APPLE-holic. They cannot see reality...
They worship at the feet of Steve Jobs, and wait for any word from their
'prophet'.

Apple is caught in a viscous cycle. They have tremendously high software
costs, so the put on a slick show for the hardware. Hardware should be
becoming a 'commodity. Cheap and readily available upon which anyone can
develop. Apple is still heading down the road called Proprietary.

Soon Symbian and Android will be open platforms on which all can develop.

Apple products are for people with deep pockets who wish to throw tribute at
the feet of Steve Jobs....

I was an Apple follower when the APPLE II came out. Then I saw quite rapidly
Jobs' little game. Keep changing the platform and the rules of the game to
ensure only he can sell the hardware. Apple III was sort of compatible, but
after that all of the other upgrades were an architecture change.

In addition, APPLE plays the 'gotcha' game across their platforms with
'nickel/dime' fees for certain updates, when other manufacturers just push
them out.
David G. Imber - 04 Jul 2008 20:49 GMT
>Apple is caught in a viscous cycle. They have tremendously high software
>costs, so the put on a slick show for the hardware. Hardware should be
>becoming a 'commodity. Cheap and readily available upon which anyone can
>develop. Apple is still heading down the road called Proprietary.

    [snip]

>I was an Apple follower when the APPLE II came out. Then I saw quite rapidly
>Jobs' little game. Keep changing the platform and the rules of the game to
>ensure only he can sell the hardware. Apple III was sort of compatible, but
>after that all of the other upgrades were an architecture change.

    I hear you, and I've always born resentment against Apple for
the same reason. But now there's a catch.

    Symbian, et al are one thing, but in terms of dominant
platforms, look at the alternative.

    I need to purchase a new computer soon. Vista? Please.

    A friend of mine is hell bent on going Linux all the way from
here on, citing the same concerns you express. But I had to wish him
luck on spending two days tracking down a driver so that he can print
a page of text.

    Regarding compatibility, the Intel-based Macs (and tellingly,
Intel recently announced that it would not - not ever - introduce
Vista into their workplace) can run Windows OS's faster than the
average PC. With the addition of VMWare Fusion one can run any Windows
application seamlessly within Mac OSX 10.5.

    Your proprietary argument holds, considering that the converse
isn't true - you can't run OSX on a Windows box. But all things
considered, it's hard to care.

    I'm struggling with this issue because I resent Apple for the
same reasons you describe. But my home office has an iMac and a PC
(someone else primarily uses the Mac), and I've had a chance to work
on the iMac recently. The truth of the matter is that by getting
certain concerns out of the way, the Mac OS spotlights productivity
very effectively.

    DGI
Bill Kearney - 05 Jul 2008 16:24 GMT
 
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