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RBM - 11 Jul 2008 18:31 GMT

Today, Apple released the new iphone, and being in NY I heard interviews
with some of those "fans" that had been waiting on line for days. I think I
understand now, why Apple doesn't have a larger slice of the cell phone
business. I think the best word to describe their "fans" is lunatics. These
folks even make Oxford sound normal (lol). I'm sure many people simply don't
want to be associated with the kind of nut cases that are iphone fans,
regardless of how good the product may be

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SMS - 11 Jul 2008 20:09 GMT

> Today, Apple released the new iphone, and being in NY I heard interviews
> with some of those "fans" that had been waiting on line for days. I think I
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> want to be associated with the kind of nut cases that are iphone fans,
> regardless of how good the product may be

I know several normal people with iPhones. The lunatics are who you see
on TV, but they aren't a large percentage of the users.

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RBM - 11 Jul 2008 20:22 GMT

>> Today, Apple released the new iphone, and being in NY I heard interviews
>> with some of those "fans" that had been waiting on line for days. I think
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> I know several normal people with iPhones. The lunatics are who you see on
> TV, but they aren't a large percentage of the users.

I'm sure you are correct, but it sure seems like the lunatics are the most
vocal, which is typical. It's like they want to be the face of Apple
products, which can't be an asset to sales

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Carl - 11 Jul 2008 21:23 GMT

>>> Today, Apple released the new iphone, and being in NY I heard
>>> interviews with some of those "fans" that had been waiting on line
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> most vocal, which is typical. It's like they want to be the face of
> Apple products, which can't be an asset to sales

No offense, but why are you sure he's correct? Are you patronizing him? How
does he know that the lunatics aren't the large percentage of the users?
Does he know all the users? Or do the several people he knows reflect all
the users?

I'm just busting chops. Ignore me. I have nothing else to do right this
minute. :-)

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Todd Allcock - 11 Jul 2008 21:25 GMT

> I'm just busting chops. Ignore me. I have nothing else to do right this
> minute. :-)

Just passing time waiting in line for your iPhone 3G, huh? ;-)

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Carl - 11 Jul 2008 23:36 GMT

>> I'm just busting chops. Ignore me. I have nothing else to do right
>> this minute. :-)
>
> Just passing time waiting in line for your iPhone 3G, huh? ;-)

Ah, you know me then? Are you the guy behind me with the spinning propeller
hat?

Believe me, I'm fighting the temptation to get one. I love the way it works.
I'm just not ready to switch carriers and leave my family dangling on their
Family Shareplan. My phone is the primary, so the bulk of the Family Share
expense is on it. If I abandon ship, the bulk would be shifted to one of
their phones. I would reduce my Verizon bill by perhaps $40 ($10 for the
phone and $30 for the data plan I have on mine), but pick up about $70 from
AT&T (plus probably another $8/mo for that dopey MobileME ripoff to try to
emulate what my BB does for me already). Quandries, conundrums, and enigmas.

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RBM - 11 Jul 2008 21:31 GMT

>>>> Today, Apple released the new iphone, and being in NY I heard
>>>> interviews with some of those "fans" that had been waiting on line
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> I'm just busting chops. Ignore me. I have nothing else to do right this
> minute. :-)

Point well taken. But if you heard the mutants that they interviewed in
NY... God help us if they are the majority

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Carl - 11 Jul 2008 23:40 GMT

>>>>> Today, Apple released the new iphone, and being in NY I heard
>>>>> interviews with some of those "fans" that had been waiting on line
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> Point well taken. But if you heard the mutants that they interviewed
> in NY... God help us if they are the majority

I get your drift. Many years ago, I had to be the first one to own the
latest copy of WIndows, so appeared at a CompUSA store at 12 midnight. But
there was no line in order to do this.

I think you have to be nuts to stand on line all night to get a device that
can be in your hands one day (or even one week) later with no line. You'd
think, as well, that the fanatics would have learned by having been burnt by
Apple after the first iPhone introduction.

There's no comprehending the human condition.

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Oxford - 12 Jul 2008 05:10 GMT

> > Point well taken. But if you heard the mutants that they interviewed
> > in NY... God help us if they are the majority
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> think, as well, that the fanatics would have learned by having been burnt by
> Apple after the first iPhone introduction.

you are forgetting the fun social aspect of it all... i've done the
waiting in line thing, and it's a blast... the people you meet in the
apple community are very enlightening.

and no, nobody was burnt by the 1st iphone intro, sure people lost $100
several months later, but by and large, everyone LOVED the experience, i
even got a free iTan :) and apple ended up paying me about $35 for the
first year of use of the their iphone... cool.

> There's no comprehending the human condition.

at least apple users are rational, they just are excited about paving
the way for others to follow...

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Larry - 12 Jul 2008 04:03 GMT

> I'm sure you are correct, but it sure seems like the lunatics are the
> most vocal, which is typical. It's like they want to be the face of
> Apple products, which can't be an asset to sales

I've also noticed this at the Mac kiosk inside Best Buy. Some of the
strangest people I've ever seen in our BB store are always hanging out at
the Mac box store. Some look like they've had a flashback into
1965....long hair, plaid pants, those old black canvas Converse sneakers my
mother used to force me to wear, even tie dyed t-shirts that look like the
ink blots in a shrink's office.

I haven't seen any tie dyed Volkswagon Kombi buses, yet....

....like mine was.....(c;

.....after Woodstock......in '69.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstock_Festival
Anyone who remembers what happened after they arrived...wasn't there...(c;
....sorry you kids missed it. I was 23, btw...and in the Navy.

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Oxford - 12 Jul 2008 06:30 GMT

> >> Today, Apple released the new iphone, and being in NY I heard interviews
> >> with some of those "fans" that had been waiting on line for days. I think
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> vocal, which is typical. It's like they want to be the face of Apple
> products, which can't be an asset to sales

but apple has never had much concern for "sales", that's just not their
focus. they are near purely focused on building the best product for the
least amount of money. sure, high sales are a side-effect of that focus,
but it's never been much of a goal for apple.

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Larry - 13 Jul 2008 03:59 GMT

Oxford <apony@pasture.com> wrote in news:apony-DDBE0D.23300711072008
@news.qwest.net:

> they are near purely focused on building the best product

Then why did they use a cheap sellphone GPS chip rather than a real GPS
with WAAS compensation so you can have full navigation?

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nospam - 13 Jul 2008 08:11 GMT

> Then why did they use a cheap sellphone GPS chip rather than a real GPS
> with WAAS compensation so you can have full navigation?

it's a real gps, and full navigation has been announced by two
companies so far.

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4phun - 13 Jul 2008 10:44 GMT

> it's a real gps, and full navigation has been announced by two
> companies so far.

Actually I have a much larger talking GPS that does just fine for
driving. What is nice about the iPhone is that I now have another GPS
that fits in my pocket, is always with me, and is perfect for when
walking with map or hybrid map at maximum zoom. You could probably use
this while geocaching too. Taking a picture with all kinds of embedded
data is slick when posted on the web. It makes you wish for a much
better camera now.

This thing is really neat and accurate! True GPS as implemented with
the new iPhone software is just about enough of a reason to buy the
iPhone 3G by itself.

Almost all decent cell phones have GPS buried in them somewhere but
the Apple iPhone 3G makes a really easy integrated to use GPS feature.
All the other current cell phones for the average user are clunky and
awkward to use by comparison.

THANKS MICROSOFT

Vic

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