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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / ATT Wireless / July 2008European retailers were sold out of the new iPhone 3G before stores in the US even opened
" sold out of 16 GB iPhones by 8 AM, and sold out of all iPhones by two in the afternoon. " European retailers sell out at iPhone 3G launch By Prince McLean Published: 02:00 PM EST European retailers were sold out of the new iPhone 3G before stores in the US even opened on Friday, thanks in part to strong marketing from Apple's mobile partners. The initial sales surge not only blew through stores' inventory but also delivered a knock-out punch to Apple's iTunes activation servers. The Swiss daily newspaper "20 Minuten" reported that hundreds waited in line for hours in Zürich in front of the central Swisscom store. The mobile phone provider opened 100 of its retail stores at 6:30 AM and served snacks and water to those waiting in line. 20 Minuten iPhone story In Bern, Swisscom's main shop in the Christoffel shopping center was sold out of 16 GB iPhones by 8 AM, and was sold out of all iPhones by two in the afternoon. An employee reported that the store had received an initial allotment of 3,000 iPhones. There are over a dozen other Swisscom retail stores in the Bern area, and all were sold out on the first day. Orange didn't open its stores as early in the morning, but was similarly sold out of all iPhones by early afternoon as well. >" sold out of 16 GB iPhones by 8 AM, and sold out of all iPhones by >two in the afternoon. " [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >the US even opened on Friday, thanks in part to strong marketing from >Apple's mobile partners. Made even more amazing by Inventory originally intended for Canada having been shipped onto Europe, after Steve Jobs got pissed at Rogers pricing schemes. >Made even more amazing by Inventory originally intended for Canada >having been shipped onto Europe, after Steve Jobs got pissed at Rogers >pricing schemes. Thanks to that little temper tantrum, we now have better rates then the US, $30 for 6GB, vs AT&T's "unlimited" with a 5GB cap. And not just for Apple users either, although only for Rogers' own 3G phones, sadly my imported TyTN II doesn't qualify even through Rogers' TyTN does. I could fight it, but it's less hassle to just grab an iPhone and move the SIM. > " sold out of 16 GB iPhones by 8 AM, and sold out of all iPhones by > two in the afternoon. " [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > first day. Orange didn't open its stores as early in the morning, but > was similarly sold out of all iPhones by early afternoon as well. yes, apple was certainly a victim of it's own success during the first day, so the moral is trying to roll out the iphone planet wide, then also doing the MobileMe transition within the same 3 days, proved too much. now, everything is back to normal, but too much success can cause unforeseen problems. David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> wrote in news:davmoy-09B78B.11050613072008 @news.qwest.net: > yes, apple was certainly a victim of it's own success during the first > day, so the moral is trying to roll out the iphone planet wide, then > also doing the MobileMe transition within the same 3 days, proved too > much. now, everything is back to normal, but too much success can cause > unforeseen problems. Well, by the time the security server recovers, the stores should have another tiny shipment for the fanbois. > Well, by the time the security server recovers, the stores should have > another tiny shipment for the fanbois. the servers were working by midday. > Well, by the time the security server recovers, the stores should have > another tiny shipment for the fanbois. what??? the servers were fine a bit later in the day, it's the initial 8am rush worldwide that caused the issue... now everything is keeping pace for 40,000 an hour sales. apple has the best servers on the planet, so it just goes to show how POPULAR the iPhone has become... If microsoft was trying to do this, people would be dying off of old age in the streets before they got to the front of the line :) larry, please THINK before you post. David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> wrote in news:davmoy-B24568.17142213072008 @news.qwest.net: > apple has the best servers on the planet, so it just goes to show how > POPULAR the iPhone has become... Fetching http://www.apple.com/ ... GET / HTTP/1.1 Host: www.apple.com Connection: close User-Agent: MacWeb/2.0 HTTP/1.1 200 OK Age: 133 X-Cache-TTL: 467 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:26:00 GMT Content-Length: 10537 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Expires: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:36:00 GMT Cache-Control: max-age=600 Server: Apache/1.3.29 (Darwin) PHP/4.3.10 X-Cached-Time: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:26:01 GMT I agree! Open Source Apache for Linux is a fine server software. But, they need some more horsepower in the processors and bandwidth in the pipe if they're gonna keep doing stupid things like releasing an upgrade download on the same day as a new device. Someone at Apple IT should have been screaming bloody murder to stop it.... > Fetching http://www.apple.com/ ... > GET / HTTP/1.1 [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > I agree! Open Source Apache for Linux is a fine server software. apple is not running linux. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:130720081840351431% nospam@nospam.invalid: >> Fetching http://www.apple.com/ ... >> GET / HTTP/1.1 [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > apple is not running linux. Which massive Apple server system does Apple run that touts Linux Apache/1.3.29 (Darwin) PHP/4.3.10 as its operating system on Apple's own webpage core? The data above was downloaded by Sam Spade straight off the Apple.com webpage only because I have no valid address for the servers used for license/purchase checking of 3G FruitFones. www.apple.com runs on a LINUX server under APACHE 1.3.29 (Darwin) http://www.apache.org/ Download it yourself from one of these mirrors: http://www.apache.org/mirrors/ They MIGHT be running Apache on a Windows Server box, I suppose. I was trying to be optimistic because Apple loves to tell everyone their OS is Unix.....(c; > >> Server: Apache/1.3.29 (Darwin) PHP/4.3.10 > >> X-Cached-Time: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:26:01 GMT [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Apache/1.3.29 (Darwin) PHP/4.3.10 as its operating system on Apple's own > webpage core? it does not tout linux apache at all. it quite clearly says 'darwin' which is the open source kernel of mac os x. the hardware are apple xserve rack mount computers, and they're all running mac os x server. <http://www.apple.com/xserve/> <http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/> > The data above was downloaded by Sam Spade straight off the Apple.com > webpage only because I have no valid address for the servers used for > license/purchase checking of 3G FruitFones. www.apple.com runs on a > LINUX server under APACHE 1.3.29 (Darwin) as stated above, it does not run linux; it runs mac os x server. > http://www.apache.org/ > > Download it yourself from one of these mirrors: > http://www.apache.org/mirrors/ already have it, thanks. > They MIGHT be running Apache on a Windows Server box, I suppose. I was > trying to be optimistic because Apple loves to tell everyone their OS is > Unix.....(c; mac os x is fully certified unix. nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:130720082027246011% nospam@nospam.invalid: > it quite clearly says 'darwin' which is the open source kernel of mac > os x. the hardware are apple xserve rack mount computers, and they're > all running mac os x server. Wow! Where does Apple sell servers? I've never seen one. All they have here are little desktop and laptops. Is there a URL where one can read about Apple server platforms?? > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:130720082027246011% > nospam@nospam.invalid: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Wow! Where does Apple sell servers? I've never seen one. All they have > here are little desktop and laptops. any mac can run mac os x server, although apple has rack mount hardware that's better suited for high demand installations. for home or small business, a mac mini is often sufficient. also, the consumer version of os x includes things such as apache and vpn, they just need to be enabled and configured. > Is there a URL where one can read about Apple server platforms?? i provided two in the previous post, one of which is included below. <http://www.apple.com/xserve/> <http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:130720082133102731% nospam@nospam.invalid: > http://www.apple.com/xserve/ Hmm...I see. Well, obviously, it wasn't enough....(c; I pictured someone as large as Apple with something like: http://www.emc.com/solutions/index.htm using storage solutions like: http://www.emc.com/products/family/symmetrix-family.htm 15000 RPM disk drives are not fast enough so: " Availability EMC plans to offer flash drives in 73 GB and 146 GB capacities for the Symmetrix DMX-4 platform beginning later in Q1 2008." which are 30 times faster.... I have a friend who is a field service engineer for EMC, here. What an amazing combination of hardware and software solutions they have.... ...and it's mostly transparent to the end user if it bombs. The master processor simply takes out of service whatever massive memory board or drive has errors, calls EMC on its own phone line telling EMC's dispatching computer what's wrong and where and what parts need swapping. My friend's pager goes off as the core processor makes a trouble ticket all without human intervention. He gets the trouble ticket over the sellphone data circuits because he lives on the road, drops by one of their prepositioned warehouses to pick up the part or has it directly delivered overnight to the site. He shows up, opens the box, hotswaps the parts then hangs around until the box's core computer is happy with the new device and cancels the trouble ticket, itself. It's a good thing computers aren't allowed to drive...... ....humans still have some, small but significant use to them. Oh I wanted that super fast 100,000 RPM IBM drive he let me hold in my hot, grubby, sweaty hands for a few minutes.....(c; You should hear its faint, nearly inaudible, whine as it powers up.... (pant) > Wow! Where does Apple sell servers? I've never seen one. All they have > here are little desktop and laptops. > > Is there a URL where one can read about Apple server platforms?? larry, you make everyone laugh at your simple world view. Apple has sold high powered servers for decades, and as recently as 4 years ago had the 3rd fastest computer in the world using them. Apple's big boy toys can be found here: http://www.apple.com/xserve/ http://www.apple.com/xserve/technology/architecture.html http://www.apple.com/science/profiles/colsa/ Oxford <apony@pasture.com> wrote in news:apony-BA2D3E.12325514072008 @news.qwest.net: > http://www.apple.com/xserve/technology/architecture.html Now I'm even more confused. It talks about PCI bus, Ethernets, Firewire?, USB?? This is like an office server to feed the Macs and printers.... I was looking for a serious Gigabit server like what I HOPE Apple is using to feed the world access to the permission box to turn on the damned FruitFones. These gadgets don't have ethernet ports, you plug Gigabit fiber into them....Gigabits per second..... Here's an example, for those stuck with desktops on their brains..... http://www.hyperconnectivity.com/ http://www.nortel.com/ > I agree! Open Source Apache for Linux is a fine server software. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Someone at Apple IT should have been screaming bloody murder to stop it.... Apache is not related to Linux... every Mac ships with Apache and has for YEARS... The problem was too much demand, which a company like MS or BB would die to have. David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> wrote in news:davmoy-76BB5A.22175813072008@dialup-4.167.115.65.Dial1.Houston1.Leve l3.net: >> I agree! Open Source Apache for Linux is a fine server software. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > The problem was too much demand, which a company like MS or BB would > die to have. Please tell me they're not trying to run servers for the whole company on Macs......are they?....(c; > Please tell me they're not trying to run servers for the whole company on > Macs......are they?....(c; apple primarily uses Sun Sparcs and their own Xserves... these run Solaris, OSX and a bit of Linux on macs or sparcs. you can always figure out what a site is running here: http://netcraft.com/ and a search for apple.com shows much of the main list... but be aware than "anything" with "apple" in the domain... shows up on this link: http://searchdns.netcraft.com/?position=limited&host=apple.com > apple has the best servers on the planet, so it just goes to show how > POPULAR the iPhone has become... > > If microsoft was trying to do this, people would be dying off of old age > in the streets before they got to the front of the line :) Not really, because the Windows Mobile OS isn't so locked down that it has to get permission from the mothership before it's allowed to make a phone call! > larry, please THINK before you post. Maybe Apple should think before they "pre-brick..." They're already restricting sales to customers signing two-year contracts- for what reason on God's Green Earth does the phone need to contact Cupertino to receive permission to OPERATE? Who cares?? " sold out of 16 GB iPhones by 8 AM, and sold out of all iPhones by two in the afternoon. " European retailers sell out at iPhone 3G launch By Prince McLean Published: 02:00 PM EST European retailers were sold out of the new iPhone 3G before stores in the US even opened on Friday, thanks in part to strong marketing from Apple's mobile partners. The initial sales surge not only blew through stores' inventory but also delivered a knock-out punch to Apple's iTunes activation servers. The Swiss daily newspaper "20 Minuten" reported that hundreds waited in line for hours in Zürich in front of the central Swisscom store. The mobile phone provider opened 100 of its retail stores at 6:30 AM and served snacks and water to those waiting in line. 20 Minuten iPhone story In Bern, Swisscom's main shop in the Christoffel shopping center was sold out of 16 GB iPhones by 8 AM, and was sold out of all iPhones by two in the afternoon. An employee reported that the store had received an initial allotment of 3,000 iPhones. There are over a dozen other Swisscom retail stores in the Bern area, and all were sold out on the first day. Orange didn't open its stores as early in the morning, but was similarly sold out of all iPhones by early afternoon as well. > Who cares?? well it is very important to the direction of the cell industry, the new iPhone is selling extremely well, so it's very likely most other vendors will fall out of business, so please try and keep up with what is going on. David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> wrote in news:davmoy-B1C75D.17081313072008 @news.qwest.net: >> Who cares?? > > well it is very important to the direction of the cell industry, the new > iPhone is selling extremely well, so it's very likely most other vendors > will fall out of business, so please try and keep up with what is going > on. Not as long as Apple is playing the old "hold back" game only selling 3000 units per store trying to prevent discounting. Sellphone sales are measured in the tens of MILLIONS not thousands. All the 3Gs so far manufactured is akin to a grain of sand to the Sahara Desert. Stevies' gonna hafta open up those warehouses and release the product if he wants to make a pimple in sellphone sales..... Yesterday's sales represent a trickling faucet on the drinking fountain overlooking Niagara Falls! > Not as long as Apple is playing the old "hold back" game only selling 3000 > units per store trying to prevent discounting. how is it that you are privy to how many units apple shipped to each store? > Sellphone sales are measured in the tens of MILLIONS not thousands. All > the 3Gs so far manufactured is akin to a grain of sand to the Sahara > Desert. apple said they'd sell 10 million by the end of 2008 and they're on track to meet that goal. that's not too bad for someone with zero market share just thirteen months ago. > Not as long as Apple is playing the old "hold back" game only selling 3000 > units per store trying to prevent discounting. apple doesn't allow discounting no matter how many units are in stock... but apple doesn't allow overstock either so it's not a problem > Sellphone sales are measured in the tens of MILLIONS not thousands. All > the 3Gs so far manufactured is akin to a grain of sand to the Sahara > Desert. yes, and apple sold about 1.3 million iphones in the last 72 hours, and your point? > Stevies' gonna hafta open up those warehouses and release the product if he > wants to make a pimple in sellphone sales..... the goal is 1%, and they were at 0.8% when they sold out of iPhone 1.0's a month ago. so everything is right on target. |
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