Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
Discussion Groups
General
General TopicsGSMBluetooth
Providers
AlltelATT WirelessCingularFidoNextelSprint PCST-MobileVerizon
Manufacturers
EricssonNokiaMotorola
Country Specific
Australian GroupUK Group
Related Topics
PocketPCPalmMore Topics ...

Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / ATT Wireless / July 2008

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
David Moyer - 14 Jul 2008 16:45 GMT
Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend

CUPERTINO, California‹July 14, 2008‹Apple today announced it sold its
one millionth iPhone 3G on Sunday, just three days after its launch on
Friday, July 11. iPhone 3G is now available in 21 countries‹Australia,
Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Hong Kong, Ireland,
Italy, Japan, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Spain,
Sweden, Switzerland, UK and the US‹and will go on sale in France on July
17.

³iPhone 3G had a stunning opening weekend,² said Steve Jobs, Apple¹s
CEO. ³It took 74 days to sell the first one million original iPhones, so
the new iPhone 3G is clearly off to a great start around the world.²

The new iPhone 3G combines all the revolutionary features of iPhone plus
3G networking that is twice as fast*, built-in GPS for expanded
location-based mobile services, and iPhone 2.0 software which includes
support for Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync and runs over 800 third party
applications available through the new App Store. In the US, the new
iPhone 3G is priced at just $199 for the 8GB model, and $299 for the
16GB model**.

*Based on 3G and EDGE testing. Actual speeds vary by site conditions.
**Requires new two-year AT&T rate plan for qualified customers, sold
separately.

Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the
Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the
Macintosh. Today, Apple continues to lead the industry in innovation
with its award-winning computers, OS X operating system and iLife and
professional applications. Apple is also spearheading the digital media
revolution with its iPod portable music and video players and iTunes
online store, and has entered the mobile phone market with its
revolutionary iPhone.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/07/14iphone.html

----

iPhone App Store Downloads Top 10 Million in First Weekend

CUPERTINO, California‹July 14, 2008‹Apple today announced that iPhone
and iPod touch users have already downloaded more than 10 million
applications from its groundbreaking new App Store since its launch late
last week. Developers have created a wide array of innovative mobile
applications ranging from games to location-based social networking to
medical applications to enterprise productivity tools. Users can
wirelessly download applications directly onto their iPhone or iPod
touch* and start using them immediately. More than 800 native
applications are now available on the App Store, with more than 200
offered for free and more than 90 percent priced at less than $10.

³The App Store is a grand slam, with a staggering 10 million
applications downloaded in just three days,² said Steve Jobs, Apple¹s
CEO. ³Developers have created some extraordinary applications, and the
App Store can wirelessly deliver them to every iPhone and iPod touch
user instantly.²

Many of these amazing new applications take advantage of iPhone¹s large
display, Multi-Touch user interface, fast hardware-accelerated 3D
graphics, built-in accelerometer and location-based technology to bring
far more powerful applications to the mobile arena than ever before.

The App Store on iPhone works over cellular networks and Wi-Fi, which
means it is accessible from just about anywhere, so users can purchase
and download applications wirelessly and start using them instantly.
Applications are free or charged to the user¹s iTunes® account and the
App Store notifies the user when updates are available for their apps.
The App Store is also available in iTunes (www.itunes.com) running on a
Mac® or PC, which syncs applications to the iPhone or iPod touch using a
USB cable.

Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the
Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the
Macintosh. Today, Apple continues to lead the industry in innovation
with its award-winning computers, OS X operating system and iLife and
professional applications. Apple is also spearheading the digital media
revolution with its iPod portable music and video players and iTunes
online store, and has entered the mobile phone market with its
revolutionary iPhone.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/07/14appstore.html

----
Todd Allcock - 14 Jul 2008 18:03 GMT
> iPhone App Store Downloads Top 10 Million in First Weekend

That's a lot of flashlights and tip calculators!  ;-)
Ron - 14 Jul 2008 18:57 GMT
>> iPhone App Store Downloads Top 10 Million in First Weekend
>
>That's a lot of flashlights and tip calculators!  ;-)

The tip caclulator works just fine in an original iPhone, thank you;
although it calculates tip based on meal cost before taxes.
anon - 14 Jul 2008 23:17 GMT
> Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend
> iPhone App Store Downloads Top 10 Million in First Weekend

It's no wonder the Nokia,Windoze fan boys are jealous!
Mark Reinhold - 15 Jul 2008 01:01 GMT
>Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Italy, Japan, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Spain,
>Sweden, Switzerland, UK and the US‹and will go on sale in France on July
Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less.
David Moyer - 15 Jul 2008 02:10 GMT
> >Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend
> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> >
> Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less.

you mean Bloomberg mistakenly said 450,000 not 45,000.

If they are just counting the US, that's fine but they incorrectly
reported the info, the actual number is 1,000,000 and that is what Apple
stated since those are the facts.

-
The Bob - 15 Jul 2008 02:42 GMT
>> >Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> -

But now we're playing the same old game.  Apple may well have sold a
million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million were
sold to consumers and activated.
anon - 16 Jul 2008 00:13 GMT
> But now we're playing the same old game.  Apple may well have sold a
> million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million were
> sold to consumers and activated.

All phones were activated in the store. The 1,000,000 number is accurate.
The Bob - 16 Jul 2008 00:57 GMT
>> But now we're playing the same old game.  Apple may well have sold a
>> million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million
>> were sold to consumers and activated.
>
> All phones were activated in the store. The 1,000,000 number is
> accurate.

But all phones were not activated in an APPLE store- they had to sell stock
to the carriers so that they could sell them in their stores.  So it is
very probable that Apple sold more phones than were activated.
Kevin Weaver - 16 Jul 2008 01:01 GMT
>> But now we're playing the same old game.  Apple may well have sold a
>> million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million
>> were
>> sold to consumers and activated.
>
> All phones were activated in the store. The 1,000,000 number is accurate.

Not true. When the apple servers could not keep up, AT&T Were telling buyers
of the iPhone they had to do the activation at home.  And you think that
Apple and AT&T Are going to tell the truth to how many were sold ?
Think again.
Larry - 16 Jul 2008 03:47 GMT
>> But now we're playing the same old game.  Apple may well have sold a
>> million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million
>> were sold to consumers and activated.
>
> All phones were activated in the store. The 1,000,000 number is
> accurate.

A little perspective for comparison:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2119280,00.asp

PC Mag says sellphone sales have dropped sharply because of economic
conditions and most people already have phones and contracts.  The first 3
months of 2008, all phone sales was 256,400,000 units.  Nokia, numero uno
in sales sold 91,100,000 of those.  All these figures are down quite a bit
from 2006.

256,400,000 in 90 days divides, add 1, carry the 2, count on my fingers,
about 2,848,888 phones a day, normal sales.

After all the holding and drooling, 1M sales was impressive, if it was
true, but is not sustainable like the 2,848,888 phones sold every day, ad
nauseum, by the big boys.

Is it any wonder your call drops?...(c;
SMS - 16 Jul 2008 00:21 GMT
> But now we're playing the same old game.  Apple may well have sold a
> million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million were
> sold to consumers and activated.

In some cases it was a voucher for a phones. They wouldn't let a phone
out of the store unless it was activated, and they couldn't activate all
the phones that they had due to server problems. Still, presuming that
everyone with a voucher actually gets the phone, it appears that a
million will have been sold in 21 countries. Pretty good, though not as
good as the original iPhone which sold 700K units, in less time, in the
U.S..
Mark Reinhold - 15 Jul 2008 17:18 GMT
>> >Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>reported the info, the actual number is 1,000,000 and that is what Apple
>stated since those are the facts.

You are taking Apples word on a Apple product.  I bet you believe in
the Tooth fairy too.  ( I think I do)
David Moyer - 22 Jul 2008 07:41 GMT
> >> Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> You are taking Apples word on a Apple product.  I bet you believe in
> the Tooth fairy too.  ( I think I do)

nah, as a corporation, they can't lie. that's the number, like it or not.
Kevin Weaver - 22 Jul 2008 17:32 GMT
>> >> Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less.
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> nah, as a corporation, they can't lie. that's the number, like it or not.

Yeah, corporations never lie. Get real!
Mark Reinhold - 23 Jul 2008 01:21 GMT
>> >> Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less.
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>nah, as a corporation, they can't lie. that's the number, like it or not.

Are you for real, Corps dont lie, the check is the mail, I wont cum in
your mouth, ....
Richard B. Gilbert - 23 Jul 2008 01:49 GMT
>>>>> Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less.
>>>> you mean Bloomberg mistakenly said 450,000 not 45,000.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Are you for real, Corps dont lie, the check is the mail, I wont cum in
> your mouth, ....

It may possibly be worth noting that Corporations cannot speak.  A human
being must speak for the Corporation.  The speaker has all the flaws
inherent in the species!
4phun - 24 Jul 2008 14:59 GMT
AT&T TAKES MORE SMARTPHONE CUSTOMERS FROM VERIZON AND OTHER TELECOS

In the first twelve days of the iPhone 3G's life, AT&T has shifted
double the number of iPhones it sold in the same period last year. And
remember, this is US only, and doesn't take into account the
international sales. Some of the factors are the same. Both the
original iPhone launch and this year's 3G launch have been plagued by
shortages. There has also been a lot of free publicity in the form of
media buzz, along with the official, understated ad campaign.

MAINSTREAM IS REALLY KICKING IN

The difference is the price. Sure, we know that over the course of a
two year contract, the higher price for data will make the iPhone 3G
more expensive than the old one even at the starting price of $200.
But people only see the price tag. They pretend the ongoing fees don't
exist. Last year the early adopters were just that, geeks who were
willing to drop $600 on a cellphone, this year the mainstream is
really kicking in. Remember: All smartphones cost a lot in monthly
charges. The iPhone is now priced just like a regular phone, and will
see at least the same adoption numbers as a regular phone.

GROWING INTO CULTURAL PHENOMENON

So yes, the price is likely to be the main factor in AT&T shifting so
many units. However, like the iPod before it, the iPhone is also
growing into a cultural phenomenon, and is already selling a lot
faster than the iPod did in its early years. We wonder if the iPhone
might end up with the same market penetration as the iPod has in the
MP3 player market. That would be just crazy.

AT&T [...] Says It's Selling New iPhones Twice As Fast As Old iPhones
[Silicon Alley Insider]
Ron - 24 Jul 2008 15:41 GMT
>AT&T TAKES MORE SMARTPHONE CUSTOMERS FROM VERIZON AND OTHER TELECOS
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>two year contract, the higher price for data will make the iPhone 3G
>more expensive than the old one even at the starting price of $200.

However the overwhelming Majority of ATT customers, don't have
iPhones, and have been in a contract less than 21 months, and thus
dont qualify for the $199 price.

And its still not spelled out that such customers can retain their
current Voice plans. Ask 3 CSRs about that and get 5 different
answers.
Larry - 24 Jul 2008 21:06 GMT
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:2d9dc61b-2eb2-4ce5-bd1d-
b3be4a31ee55@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

> AT&T TAKES MORE SMARTPHONE CUSTOMERS FROM VERIZON AND OTHER TELECOS
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> shortages. There has also been a lot of free publicity in the form of
> media buzz, along with the official, understated ad campaign.

God, Vic...don't just parrot what they sh.t...THINK, man, THINK!

How can iPhone 3G outsell ANYTHING when there are NO IPHONES TO SELL?!

What bullahit....pure bullshit.
4phun - 24 Jul 2008 22:50 GMT
> 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:2d9dc61b-2eb2-4ce5-bd1d-
> b3be4a31e...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> What bullahit....pure bullshit.

The UK got a massive shipment today, their ship came in?

Within hours just about all the new 16GB BLACK phones were gone but
they have WHITE ones in stock all over at the end of the day in the
UK.

The USA is getting odd shipments all over of a batch of phones at a
time.

Facebook now has a Microsoft application they will let members
download  for checking iPhone inventory updated every fifteen minutes
or so.
http://apps.facebook.com/iphonestock/

If you get a 'null' report it is in the middle of a data update or you
are not a member.

Snapshot of the UK inventory at 5:30 PM EDT US below

            Black 8GB    Black 16GB    White 16GB
UK    Birmingham    Bullring    true    false    true
UK    Cambridge    Grand Arcade    true    true    true
UK    Exeter    Princesshay    true    false    true
UK    Glasgow    Buchanan Street    true    true    true
UK    Grays, Essex    Lakeside    true    false    true
UK    Greenhithe, Kent    Bluewater    true    false    true
UK    Kingston upon Thames    Bentall Centre    true    false    true
UK    London    Brent Cross    true    false    true
UK    London    Regent Street    true    true    true
UK    Manchester    Manchester Arndale    true    false    true
UK    Manchester    Trafford Centre    true    false    true
UK    Milton Keynes    Milton Keynes    true    true    true
UK    Sheffield    Meadowhall    true    false    true
UK    Solihull    Touchwood Centre    true    false    true
UK    Southampton    WestQuay    true    false    true
The Bob - 25 Jul 2008 00:06 GMT
>> 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:2d9dc61b-2eb2-4ce5-bd1d-
>> b3be4a31e...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> The UK got a massive shipment today, their ship came in?

And that affects AT&T just how?
4phun - 25 Jul 2008 00:20 GMT
> If you get a 'null' report it is in the middle of a data update or you

All reports are now null.

Apple has disabled the data files that allowed the outside world to
view iPhone inventory in near real time after my post.

Too many facebook buffs jumped on it.
Larry - 25 Jul 2008 02:51 GMT
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:c462efdf-6030-46d0-8b1a-
609209a226c6@a6g2000prm.googlegroups.com:

> The UK got a massive shipment today, their ship came in?

Are you in the UK?

The UK is a tiny market.....in comparison to the USA.

You're sidestepping the issue....THERE ARE NO iPHONES for sale here!
Larry - 15 Jul 2008 03:10 GMT
> Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less.

And more realistic, considering our main store had 60 of them and won't
have more until day AFTER tomorrow....

How stupid.
SMS - 15 Jul 2008 22:10 GMT
>> Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend
>>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> Sweden, Switzerland, UK and the US‹and will go on sale in France on July
> Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less.

I read one million, but it's very misleading. The original iPhone sold
700K units the first weekend (starting at 6:00 p.m.) in the U.S. only.
Pretty impressive.

The 3G iphone sold 1 million units, starting at 8:00 a.m. Friday, in 21
countries. So in ten more hours, they sold about 40% more units than the
original iPhone, but in 2100% the number of countries.

What this means is that cellular phone customers understand that there
are other 3G handsets that are competitive with the iPhone. Of course it
could also mean that potential customers are waiting for a price cut
prior to purchasing, waiting for all the early-adopters to both pay more
and to get any bugs resolved.
Bill Kearney - 18 Jul 2008 17:10 GMT
> Of course it could also mean that potential customers are waiting for a
> price cut prior to purchasing, waiting for all the early-adopters to both
> pay more and to get any bugs resolved.

It's true, Apple has had a decades-long history of screwing early adopters.
It's always better to wait a few months and let the first round buyers get
screwed.
SMS - 18 Jul 2008 20:13 GMT
>> Of course it could also mean that potential customers are waiting for
>> a price cut prior to purchasing, waiting for all the early-adopters to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> adopters. It's always better to wait a few months and let the first
> round buyers get screwed.

Apple is hardly unique in this regard.
Ness-Net - 16 Jul 2008 18:30 GMT
http://www.gearlog.com/2008/07/is_apples_one_million_iphone_c.php

That number, however, may have, in fact, been exaggerated--a lot. According
to Piper Jaffray's Gene Munster, the number of phones sold over that time
period is probably closer to 425,000. According to the analyst's numbers,
it will likely take Apple around 17 days to actually hit the one million mark.

The discrepancy apparently has to do with the way Apple records its sales,
logging one for both every unit sold in their stores and each one shipped to
wireless carriers, like AT&T, meaning that one million units may be out of
Apple's hands now, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all of them are
in the hands of consumers.
Todd Allcock - 16 Jul 2008 22:41 GMT
> http://www.gearlog.com/2008/07/is_apples_one_million_iphone_c.php
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> of Apple's hands now, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all of them
> are in the hands of consumers.

While true, it's also how all phone manufacturers could their sales, so when
Motorola brags they sold their 60 millionth (or whatever) Razr the same rule
applies, so this isn't some number-fluffing trickery that's exclusive to
Apple.

In fact, Apple's numbers are in some ways more "honest" than other
manufacturers, since other manufacturers do not operate retail stores.
Apple doesn't count phones "sold" to their own stores' inventory as sales-
only phones sold at retail, whereas Motorola or Samsung do not operate
retail stores- ever "sale" they report was a wholesale sale to a distributor
or carrier- not to an end-user.

And, frankly, from Apple's (or Nokia's, Motorola's et al's) perspective, the
retail sales (at AT&T stores) don't matter now that the revenue sharing
deals are gone.  Apple only gets paid when AT&T buys the product- not when
it's activated.
Steve Sobol - 16 Jul 2008 22:52 GMT
> In fact, Apple's numbers are in some ways more "honest" than other
> manufacturers, since other manufacturers do not operate retail stores.

I don't think there's a difference. Motorola sells their phones online. I
believe Nokia also does.

Signature

Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA     PGP:0xE3AE35ED  www.SteveSobol.com
Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol

Todd Allcock - 16 Jul 2008 23:33 GMT
> I don't think there's a difference. Motorola sells their phones online. I
> believe Nokia also does.

Fair enough, but in the US carrier-subsidized market, online sales of
either manufacturer have to be negligible compared to Apple's store sales,
which sells subsidized phones on AT& service.

Unless things have changed recently, clicking to buy most Nokia phones from
the Nokia USA site redirected you the "Let's Talk" website and tried to set
you up on a new service plan- precious few Nokia phones on the website are
available direct- just a few unlocked GSM models.
Mark Reinhold - 17 Jul 2008 17:58 GMT
>Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend
Over 50 million, that is correct 50 millions blackberry Pearls have
been sold.  So Apple, step back, and sit down, and SHUT UP.
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2009 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.