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Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs
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David Moyer - 14 Jul 2008 16:45 GMT Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend
CUPERTINO, California‹July 14, 2008‹Apple today announced it sold its one millionth iPhone 3G on Sunday, just three days after its launch on Friday, July 11. iPhone 3G is now available in 21 countries‹Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, UK and the US‹and will go on sale in France on July 17.
³iPhone 3G had a stunning opening weekend,² said Steve Jobs, Apple¹s CEO. ³It took 74 days to sell the first one million original iPhones, so the new iPhone 3G is clearly off to a great start around the world.²
The new iPhone 3G combines all the revolutionary features of iPhone plus 3G networking that is twice as fast*, built-in GPS for expanded location-based mobile services, and iPhone 2.0 software which includes support for Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync and runs over 800 third party applications available through the new App Store. In the US, the new iPhone 3G is priced at just $199 for the 8GB model, and $299 for the 16GB model**.
*Based on 3G and EDGE testing. Actual speeds vary by site conditions. **Requires new two-year AT&T rate plan for qualified customers, sold separately.
Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the Macintosh. Today, Apple continues to lead the industry in innovation with its award-winning computers, OS X operating system and iLife and professional applications. Apple is also spearheading the digital media revolution with its iPod portable music and video players and iTunes online store, and has entered the mobile phone market with its revolutionary iPhone.
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/07/14iphone.html
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iPhone App Store Downloads Top 10 Million in First Weekend
CUPERTINO, California‹July 14, 2008‹Apple today announced that iPhone and iPod touch users have already downloaded more than 10 million applications from its groundbreaking new App Store since its launch late last week. Developers have created a wide array of innovative mobile applications ranging from games to location-based social networking to medical applications to enterprise productivity tools. Users can wirelessly download applications directly onto their iPhone or iPod touch* and start using them immediately. More than 800 native applications are now available on the App Store, with more than 200 offered for free and more than 90 percent priced at less than $10.
³The App Store is a grand slam, with a staggering 10 million applications downloaded in just three days,² said Steve Jobs, Apple¹s CEO. ³Developers have created some extraordinary applications, and the App Store can wirelessly deliver them to every iPhone and iPod touch user instantly.²
Many of these amazing new applications take advantage of iPhone¹s large display, Multi-Touch user interface, fast hardware-accelerated 3D graphics, built-in accelerometer and location-based technology to bring far more powerful applications to the mobile arena than ever before.
The App Store on iPhone works over cellular networks and Wi-Fi, which means it is accessible from just about anywhere, so users can purchase and download applications wirelessly and start using them instantly. Applications are free or charged to the user¹s iTunes® account and the App Store notifies the user when updates are available for their apps. The App Store is also available in iTunes (www.itunes.com) running on a Mac® or PC, which syncs applications to the iPhone or iPod touch using a USB cable.
Apple ignited the personal computer revolution in the 1970s with the Apple II and reinvented the personal computer in the 1980s with the Macintosh. Today, Apple continues to lead the industry in innovation with its award-winning computers, OS X operating system and iLife and professional applications. Apple is also spearheading the digital media revolution with its iPod portable music and video players and iTunes online store, and has entered the mobile phone market with its revolutionary iPhone.
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/07/14appstore.html
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Todd Allcock - 14 Jul 2008 18:03 GMT > iPhone App Store Downloads Top 10 Million in First Weekend That's a lot of flashlights and tip calculators! ;-)
Ron - 14 Jul 2008 18:57 GMT >> iPhone App Store Downloads Top 10 Million in First Weekend > >That's a lot of flashlights and tip calculators! ;-) The tip caclulator works just fine in an original iPhone, thank you; although it calculates tip based on meal cost before taxes.
anon - 14 Jul 2008 23:17 GMT > Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend > iPhone App Store Downloads Top 10 Million in First Weekend It's no wonder the Nokia,Windoze fan boys are jealous!
Mark Reinhold - 15 Jul 2008 01:01 GMT >Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Italy, Japan, Mexico, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Spain, >Sweden, Switzerland, UK and the USand will go on sale in France on July Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less.
David Moyer - 15 Jul 2008 02:10 GMT > >Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less. you mean Bloomberg mistakenly said 450,000 not 45,000.
If they are just counting the US, that's fine but they incorrectly reported the info, the actual number is 1,000,000 and that is what Apple stated since those are the facts.
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The Bob - 15 Jul 2008 02:42 GMT >> >Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend >> > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > - But now we're playing the same old game. Apple may well have sold a million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million were sold to consumers and activated.
anon - 16 Jul 2008 00:13 GMT > But now we're playing the same old game. Apple may well have sold a > million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million were > sold to consumers and activated. All phones were activated in the store. The 1,000,000 number is accurate.
The Bob - 16 Jul 2008 00:57 GMT >> But now we're playing the same old game. Apple may well have sold a >> million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million >> were sold to consumers and activated. > > All phones were activated in the store. The 1,000,000 number is > accurate. But all phones were not activated in an APPLE store- they had to sell stock to the carriers so that they could sell them in their stores. So it is very probable that Apple sold more phones than were activated.
Kevin Weaver - 16 Jul 2008 01:01 GMT >> But now we're playing the same old game. Apple may well have sold a >> million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million >> were >> sold to consumers and activated. > > All phones were activated in the store. The 1,000,000 number is accurate. Not true. When the apple servers could not keep up, AT&T Were telling buyers of the iPhone they had to do the activation at home. And you think that Apple and AT&T Are going to tell the truth to how many were sold ? Think again.
Larry - 16 Jul 2008 03:47 GMT >> But now we're playing the same old game. Apple may well have sold a >> million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million >> were sold to consumers and activated. > > All phones were activated in the store. The 1,000,000 number is > accurate. A little perspective for comparison:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2119280,00.asp
PC Mag says sellphone sales have dropped sharply because of economic conditions and most people already have phones and contracts. The first 3 months of 2008, all phone sales was 256,400,000 units. Nokia, numero uno in sales sold 91,100,000 of those. All these figures are down quite a bit from 2006.
256,400,000 in 90 days divides, add 1, carry the 2, count on my fingers, about 2,848,888 phones a day, normal sales.
After all the holding and drooling, 1M sales was impressive, if it was true, but is not sustainable like the 2,848,888 phones sold every day, ad nauseum, by the big boys.
Is it any wonder your call drops?...(c;
SMS - 16 Jul 2008 00:21 GMT > But now we're playing the same old game. Apple may well have sold a > million phones to the carriers, but that does not mean that a million were > sold to consumers and activated. In some cases it was a voucher for a phones. They wouldn't let a phone out of the store unless it was activated, and they couldn't activate all the phones that they had due to server problems. Still, presuming that everyone with a voucher actually gets the phone, it appears that a million will have been sold in 21 countries. Pretty good, though not as good as the original iPhone which sold 700K units, in less time, in the U.S..
Mark Reinhold - 15 Jul 2008 17:18 GMT >> >Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend >> > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >reported the info, the actual number is 1,000,000 and that is what Apple >stated since those are the facts. You are taking Apples word on a Apple product. I bet you believe in the Tooth fairy too. ( I think I do)
David Moyer - 22 Jul 2008 07:41 GMT > >> Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less. > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > You are taking Apples word on a Apple product. I bet you believe in > the Tooth fairy too. ( I think I do) nah, as a corporation, they can't lie. that's the number, like it or not.
Kevin Weaver - 22 Jul 2008 17:32 GMT >> >> Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less. >> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > nah, as a corporation, they can't lie. that's the number, like it or not. Yeah, corporations never lie. Get real!
Mark Reinhold - 23 Jul 2008 01:21 GMT >> >> Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less. >> > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >nah, as a corporation, they can't lie. that's the number, like it or not. Are you for real, Corps dont lie, the check is the mail, I wont cum in your mouth, ....
Richard B. Gilbert - 23 Jul 2008 01:49 GMT >>>>> Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less. >>>> you mean Bloomberg mistakenly said 450,000 not 45,000. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Are you for real, Corps dont lie, the check is the mail, I wont cum in > your mouth, .... It may possibly be worth noting that Corporations cannot speak. A human being must speak for the Corporation. The speaker has all the flaws inherent in the species!
4phun - 24 Jul 2008 14:59 GMT AT&T TAKES MORE SMARTPHONE CUSTOMERS FROM VERIZON AND OTHER TELECOS
In the first twelve days of the iPhone 3G's life, AT&T has shifted double the number of iPhones it sold in the same period last year. And remember, this is US only, and doesn't take into account the international sales. Some of the factors are the same. Both the original iPhone launch and this year's 3G launch have been plagued by shortages. There has also been a lot of free publicity in the form of media buzz, along with the official, understated ad campaign.
MAINSTREAM IS REALLY KICKING IN
The difference is the price. Sure, we know that over the course of a two year contract, the higher price for data will make the iPhone 3G more expensive than the old one even at the starting price of $200. But people only see the price tag. They pretend the ongoing fees don't exist. Last year the early adopters were just that, geeks who were willing to drop $600 on a cellphone, this year the mainstream is really kicking in. Remember: All smartphones cost a lot in monthly charges. The iPhone is now priced just like a regular phone, and will see at least the same adoption numbers as a regular phone.
GROWING INTO CULTURAL PHENOMENON
So yes, the price is likely to be the main factor in AT&T shifting so many units. However, like the iPod before it, the iPhone is also growing into a cultural phenomenon, and is already selling a lot faster than the iPod did in its early years. We wonder if the iPhone might end up with the same market penetration as the iPod has in the MP3 player market. That would be just crazy.
AT&T [...] Says It's Selling New iPhones Twice As Fast As Old iPhones [Silicon Alley Insider]
Ron - 24 Jul 2008 15:41 GMT >AT&T TAKES MORE SMARTPHONE CUSTOMERS FROM VERIZON AND OTHER TELECOS > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >two year contract, the higher price for data will make the iPhone 3G >more expensive than the old one even at the starting price of $200. However the overwhelming Majority of ATT customers, don't have iPhones, and have been in a contract less than 21 months, and thus dont qualify for the $199 price.
And its still not spelled out that such customers can retain their current Voice plans. Ask 3 CSRs about that and get 5 different answers.
Larry - 24 Jul 2008 21:06 GMT 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:2d9dc61b-2eb2-4ce5-bd1d- b3be4a31ee55@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
> AT&T TAKES MORE SMARTPHONE CUSTOMERS FROM VERIZON AND OTHER TELECOS > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > shortages. There has also been a lot of free publicity in the form of > media buzz, along with the official, understated ad campaign. God, Vic...don't just parrot what they sh.t...THINK, man, THINK!
How can iPhone 3G outsell ANYTHING when there are NO IPHONES TO SELL?!
What bullahit....pure bullshit.
4phun - 24 Jul 2008 22:50 GMT > 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:2d9dc61b-2eb2-4ce5-bd1d- > b3be4a31e...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > What bullahit....pure bullshit. The UK got a massive shipment today, their ship came in?
Within hours just about all the new 16GB BLACK phones were gone but they have WHITE ones in stock all over at the end of the day in the UK.
The USA is getting odd shipments all over of a batch of phones at a time.
Facebook now has a Microsoft application they will let members download for checking iPhone inventory updated every fifteen minutes or so. http://apps.facebook.com/iphonestock/
If you get a 'null' report it is in the middle of a data update or you are not a member.
Snapshot of the UK inventory at 5:30 PM EDT US below
Black 8GB Black 16GB White 16GB UK Birmingham Bullring true false true UK Cambridge Grand Arcade true true true UK Exeter Princesshay true false true UK Glasgow Buchanan Street true true true UK Grays, Essex Lakeside true false true UK Greenhithe, Kent Bluewater true false true UK Kingston upon Thames Bentall Centre true false true UK London Brent Cross true false true UK London Regent Street true true true UK Manchester Manchester Arndale true false true UK Manchester Trafford Centre true false true UK Milton Keynes Milton Keynes true true true UK Sheffield Meadowhall true false true UK Solihull Touchwood Centre true false true UK Southampton WestQuay true false true
The Bob - 25 Jul 2008 00:06 GMT >> 4phun <vic.hea...@gmail.com> wrote in news:2d9dc61b-2eb2-4ce5-bd1d- >> b3be4a31e...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > The UK got a massive shipment today, their ship came in? And that affects AT&T just how?
4phun - 25 Jul 2008 00:20 GMT > If you get a 'null' report it is in the middle of a data update or you All reports are now null.
Apple has disabled the data files that allowed the outside world to view iPhone inventory in near real time after my post.
Too many facebook buffs jumped on it.
Larry - 25 Jul 2008 02:51 GMT 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:c462efdf-6030-46d0-8b1a- 609209a226c6@a6g2000prm.googlegroups.com:
> The UK got a massive shipment today, their ship came in? Are you in the UK?
The UK is a tiny market.....in comparison to the USA.
You're sidestepping the issue....THERE ARE NO iPHONES for sale here!
Larry - 15 Jul 2008 03:10 GMT > Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less. And more realistic, considering our main store had 60 of them and won't have more until day AFTER tomorrow....
How stupid.
SMS - 15 Jul 2008 22:10 GMT >> Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> Sweden, Switzerland, UK and the US‹and will go on sale in France on July > Bloomberg says 45,000 which seems to be less. I read one million, but it's very misleading. The original iPhone sold 700K units the first weekend (starting at 6:00 p.m.) in the U.S. only. Pretty impressive.
The 3G iphone sold 1 million units, starting at 8:00 a.m. Friday, in 21 countries. So in ten more hours, they sold about 40% more units than the original iPhone, but in 2100% the number of countries.
What this means is that cellular phone customers understand that there are other 3G handsets that are competitive with the iPhone. Of course it could also mean that potential customers are waiting for a price cut prior to purchasing, waiting for all the early-adopters to both pay more and to get any bugs resolved.
Bill Kearney - 18 Jul 2008 17:10 GMT > Of course it could also mean that potential customers are waiting for a > price cut prior to purchasing, waiting for all the early-adopters to both > pay more and to get any bugs resolved. It's true, Apple has had a decades-long history of screwing early adopters. It's always better to wait a few months and let the first round buyers get screwed.
SMS - 18 Jul 2008 20:13 GMT >> Of course it could also mean that potential customers are waiting for >> a price cut prior to purchasing, waiting for all the early-adopters to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > adopters. It's always better to wait a few months and let the first > round buyers get screwed. Apple is hardly unique in this regard.
Ness-Net - 16 Jul 2008 18:30 GMT http://www.gearlog.com/2008/07/is_apples_one_million_iphone_c.php
That number, however, may have, in fact, been exaggerated--a lot. According to Piper Jaffray's Gene Munster, the number of phones sold over that time period is probably closer to 425,000. According to the analyst's numbers, it will likely take Apple around 17 days to actually hit the one million mark.
The discrepancy apparently has to do with the way Apple records its sales, logging one for both every unit sold in their stores and each one shipped to wireless carriers, like AT&T, meaning that one million units may be out of Apple's hands now, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all of them are in the hands of consumers.
Todd Allcock - 16 Jul 2008 22:41 GMT > http://www.gearlog.com/2008/07/is_apples_one_million_iphone_c.php > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > of Apple's hands now, but that doesn't necessarily mean that all of them > are in the hands of consumers. While true, it's also how all phone manufacturers could their sales, so when Motorola brags they sold their 60 millionth (or whatever) Razr the same rule applies, so this isn't some number-fluffing trickery that's exclusive to Apple.
In fact, Apple's numbers are in some ways more "honest" than other manufacturers, since other manufacturers do not operate retail stores. Apple doesn't count phones "sold" to their own stores' inventory as sales- only phones sold at retail, whereas Motorola or Samsung do not operate retail stores- ever "sale" they report was a wholesale sale to a distributor or carrier- not to an end-user.
And, frankly, from Apple's (or Nokia's, Motorola's et al's) perspective, the retail sales (at AT&T stores) don't matter now that the revenue sharing deals are gone. Apple only gets paid when AT&T buys the product- not when it's activated.
Steve Sobol - 16 Jul 2008 22:52 GMT > In fact, Apple's numbers are in some ways more "honest" than other > manufacturers, since other manufacturers do not operate retail stores. I don't think there's a difference. Motorola sells their phones online. I believe Nokia also does.
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Todd Allcock - 16 Jul 2008 23:33 GMT > I don't think there's a difference. Motorola sells their phones online. I > believe Nokia also does. Fair enough, but in the US carrier-subsidized market, online sales of either manufacturer have to be negligible compared to Apple's store sales, which sells subsidized phones on AT& service.
Unless things have changed recently, clicking to buy most Nokia phones from the Nokia USA site redirected you the "Let's Talk" website and tried to set you up on a new service plan- precious few Nokia phones on the website are available direct- just a few unlocked GSM models.
Mark Reinhold - 17 Jul 2008 17:58 GMT >Apple Sells One Million iPhone 3Gs in First Weekend Over 50 million, that is correct 50 millions blackberry Pearls have been sold. So Apple, step back, and sit down, and SHUT UP.
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