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Who says iPhone can only view Word documents?

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4phun - 18 Jul 2008 15:58 GMT
Glide Mobile adds Microsoft Word support to the iPhone

Friday, September 14th, 2007 at 1:35 am under iPhone, Services,
Applications

Who says iPhone can only view Word documents?

Well, now thanks to Glide Mobile — which previously brought Windows
Media support to the iPhone — users of the Apple's handset can now
edit, format and share their Microsoft Word documents!
SMS - 18 Jul 2008 16:13 GMT
> Glide Mobile adds Microsoft Word support to the iPhone
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Media support to the iPhone — users of the Apple's handset can now
> edit, format and share their Microsoft Word documents!

LOL, no, that's not what Glide Mobile does. You're editing a document
on-line and then downloading it to your phone. There's no native
editing, though one software company, Mariner has said that something
close is coming.
4phun - 18 Jul 2008 17:41 GMT
> > Glide Mobile adds Microsoft Word support to the iPhone
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> editing, though one software company, Mariner has said that something
> close is coming.

If you are collabrating on the same document in real time then this is
an excellent solution complete with all the normal Word bells and
whistles. Plus you can use the iPhone speaker phone function to speak
to multiple parties who are working with you at the same time.
SMS - 18 Jul 2008 20:12 GMT
>>> Glide Mobile adds Microsoft Word support to the iPhone
>>> Friday, September 14th, 2007 at 1:35 am under iPhone, Services,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> whistles. Plus you can use the iPhone speaker phone function to speak
> to multiple parties who are working with you at the same time.

Right, but it doesn't work when you have no connectivity, which
unfortunately is the the time you're most likely to be needing to edit a
document, i.e. on an airplane. But don't worry, there is supposed to be
a solution coming, at least for spreadsheets.

See
"http://www.macresearch.org/mariner-promises-spreadsheet-software-iphone"

Someone else will probably come out with a word processor, though thhe
lack copy, cut and paste capabilities will have to be overcome.

The iPhone is still a long way from catching up with WinMo phones in
terms of applications, but since it was never designed as a SmartPhone,
it's understandable. For those that want to edit documents such as
spreadsheets, and text files, the iPhone isn't a good choice.
Larry - 19 Jul 2008 02:24 GMT
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:sV5gk.6928$vn7.3379
@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com:

> http://www.macresearch.org/mariner-promises-spreadsheet-software-iphone

Steve, have you ever run Gnumeric on the mac?
http://gnumeric.darwinports.com/

Very complex open source spreadsheet app from hundreds of coders.  
Fantastic piece of work.
http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnumeric/

Gnome Office also includes Abiword:
http://www.abisource.com/
but I don't see an OSX version of it:
http://www.abisource.com/download/

Both of these are ported to the Nokia Linux tablets.  Creating documents
and distributing them with Abiword is fully supported, especially when
you're using a real keyboard like the external BT or by plugging in any PC
USB keyboard, now, with our new capability of making the USB port on the
tablet capable of Host mode.  Walmart sells this tiny laptop 4-port USB hub
the tablet seems capable of powering easily.  I replaced the A connector on
it with a camera connector so I don't need gender changers to use it in
host mode....works slick...Hard drives must be self-powered as there's not
THAT much power available...(c;  With a full keyboard, you look a little
funny running from remote locations with the tablet leaning up against
it...(c;

"Where's the computer?", they always ask....

"Back left pocket by my wallet....", I tell them.
Larry - 19 Jul 2008 02:26 GMT
SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:sV5gk.6928$vn7.3379
@flpi147.ffdc.sbc.com:

> http://www.macresearch.org/mariner-promises-spreadsheet-software-iphone

Oops!  Here's the OSX Abiword files tarball....

http://www.abisource.com/downloads/abiword/2.4.5/MacOSX/AbiWord-2.4.5-
10.2.dmg.gz
Todd Allcock - 18 Jul 2008 17:59 GMT
> Glide Mobile adds Microsoft Word support to the iPhone
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Media support to the iPhone — users of the Apple's handset can now
> edit, format and share their Microsoft Word documents!

While useful, this is still a web app- meaning you have to have connectivity
via cellular or WiFi to access and edit the documents, like with Google Docs
or Live Office.  Good luck catching up with the office on the airplane!
;-)
Larry - 19 Jul 2008 02:30 GMT
"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:g5qi6n$tlv$1
@aioe.org:

> Good luck catching up with the office on the airplane!

I think other factors are going to solve this problem, which has nothing to
do with this web app.  On the radio tonight one of the major airlines was
telling them they are going to cancel about 2250 flights, entirely, and
jack up prices on those that are left, trying to cover their
fuel/maintenance losses.  I know Delta uses about 10,000,000,000 gallons of
JPx per year.  My calculators don't go high enough to multiply that by the
JP fuel prices....(c;

Of course, what needs to be done to save the oil that's left is GROUND ALL
PLANES and BRING THE TROOPS HOME.  The air will be cleansed in a week and
BLUE SKY will cover the planet, once again!

Business will get over not having flying junkets disguised as business
meetings.  That's what phones are for.
Oxford - 20 Jul 2008 02:12 GMT
> While useful, this is still a web app- meaning you have to have connectivity
> via cellular or WiFi to access and edit the documents, like with Google Docs
> or Live Office.  Good luck catching up with the office on the airplane!
> ;-)

yes, but most intelligent people have a normal macbook air for that.
Todd Allcock - 20 Jul 2008 05:07 GMT
> > While useful, this is still a web app- meaning you have to have connectivity
> > via cellular or WiFi to access and edit the documents, like with Google Docs
> > or Live Office.  Good luck catching up with the office on the airplane!
> > ;-)
>
> yes, but most intelligent people have a normal macbook air for that.

Which, in a nutshell, explains why, despite your insistence, the iPhone
ISN'T the "most technologically advanced phone" on the planet.

Many other phones have the ability to substitute for a laptop.  That's a
feature I look for in a smartphone.
David Friedman - 20 Jul 2008 06:04 GMT
> > > While useful, this is still a web app- meaning you have to have
> connectivity
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Many other phones have the ability to substitute for a laptop.  That's a
> feature I look for in a smartphone.

And to link to a bluetooth keyboard. And to function as wireless modems.
And, some of them, to function as a WiFi router while functioning as a
wireless (3G) modem.

But almost none of them do those things and have a QWERTY keyboard and
have a VGA or better screen that's over 3" in diagonal--the combination
of features I've been looking for. Perhaps the android phone will. I
can't see trading in my Nokia 9300 for something with a smaller screen
and a worse keyboard, even if it is 3G and WiFi (unlike mine).

I think the only exception is the HTC shift in its various
incarnations--and it has an odd form factor as well as being awfully big.

If anyone knows of something that meets my requirements ...  .

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Todd Allcock - 20 Jul 2008 07:23 GMT
> And to link to a bluetooth keyboard. And to function as wireless modems.
> And, some of them, to function as a WiFi router while functioning as a
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> If anyone knows of something that meets my requirements ...  .

The upcoming (September?) Sony Xperia X1 should fit the bill, or come close-
3" 800x480 touchscreen, slide-out QWERTY, 3G, BT, WiFi, FM radio, WinMo
6.1 and a cute "tile" (iPhone icons meet Vista thumbnails) interface.
Beer Drinking Dog - 20 Jul 2008 07:36 GMT
>>>> While useful, this is still a web app- meaning you have to have
>> connectivity
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> If anyone knows of something that meets my requirements ...  .

Maybe one of those sci-fi tricorder thingies from Star Trek?

Looks like you have a business opportunity. Start your own business and
create the gadget you want.
Larry - 22 Jul 2008 03:39 GMT
Beer Drinking Dog <photodoglv@yahoo.com> wrote in news:P1Bgk.2887$8R1.166
@newsfe03.iad:

> Maybe one of those sci-fi tricorder thingies from Star Trek?
>
> Looks like you have a business opportunity. Start your own business and
> create the gadget you want.

I discovered a little MP3 file that is the noise the communicator makes
when they opened it.  I substituted it for the sound effect Skype makes
when it first boots up....on the Nokia N800 Linux Tablet.  It repeats when
you click to make any of the various calls out....

All in good fun....(c;

Root access is a dangerous thing....
Todd Allcock - 22 Jul 2008 08:22 GMT
> > Maybe one of those sci-fi tricorder thingies from Star Trek?
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Root access is a dangerous thing....

Just to try and "out geek" you, my Tilt's ringtone is the "ooo-wheee-ooo"
bosun whistle sound that the Enterprise shipboard intercoms made in the
original series.  Beside the fun geek factor, it's a nice piercing sound
that gets your attention even at low volume in a  fairly noisey
environment.
Larry - 22 Jul 2008 15:15 GMT
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:g646mb$ehi$1
@aioe.org:

> Just to try and "out geek" you, my Tilt's ringtone is the "ooo-wheee-ooo"
> bosun whistle sound that the Enterprise shipboard intercoms made in the
> original series.  Beside the fun geek factor, it's a nice piercing sound
> that gets your attention even at low volume in a  fairly noisey
> environment.

Cool!  I haven't got that sound effect.  Can you post it to
alt.binaries.pictures.sports.ocean
the dead newsgroup we use occasionally for file swapping?

Thanks!

My current ringtone is an antique English telephone bellset....(c;
Todd Allcock - 22 Jul 2008 16:38 GMT
> > Just to try and "out geek" you, my Tilt's ringtone is the "ooo-wheee-ooo"
> > bosun whistle sound that the Enterprise shipboard intercoms made in the
> > original series...

> Cool!  I haven't got that sound effect.  Can you post it to
> alt.binaries.pictures.sports.ocean
> the dead newsgroup we use occasionally for file swapping?
>
> Thanks!

I'm a usenet luddite- I've stuck to text-based readers and groups my whole
usenet "career"- I've never up loaded a binary to a usenet group in my
life!

You can grab it here, though (sorry about the word wrap):

http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/attachments/kyocera-7135-
downloads/2089d1046412415-star-trek-bosuns-whistle-bosun56.zip

> My current ringtone is an antique English telephone bellset....(c;

Nice!
Larry - 22 Jul 2008 21:33 GMT
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:g64vre$et1$1
@aioe.org:

> http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/attachments/kyocera-7135-
> downloads/2089d1046412415-star-trek-bosuns-whistle-bosun56.zip

Thanks!  Cool sound.  It's really loud on the Z6m's nice speakers.

I may add Scotty's voice to it calling Kirk or Spock...or make it repeat a
few more times so it will be sure to attract my attention.

You should just get Xnews from http://xnews.newsguy.com/
You don't need to buy anything.  It's freeware.  I'm typing on it now.
Posting to a newsgroup is as easy as sending an attachment in email, very
similar.  Instead of sending to an email addy, you're sending to a
newsgroup.

Easy to learn from here:
http://abmefaq.net/XNews_Primer.html
Todd Allcock - 23 Jul 2008 15:15 GMT
> You should just get Xnews from http://xnews.newsguy.com/
> You don't need to buy anything.  It's freeware.  I'm typing on it now.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Easy to learn from here:
> http://abmefaq.net/XNews_Primer.html

I tend to read Usenet from my handheld on the go- I rarely use a newsreader
on the PC, but I'll take a look, thanks.
Larry - 23 Jul 2008 19:49 GMT
>> You should just get Xnews from http://xnews.newsguy.com/
>> You don't need to buy anything.  It's freeware.  I'm typing on it
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>  

Well, then, maybe it's not such a good idea to try it.  It's awful
addicting just downloading the movies and music presented here for free,
even discounting the obvious porn load.  38,000,000 MP3 files, >68,000
movies is an addiction, right?

"I couldn't help myself, your Immenseness!  It was SO easy to just download
it all!"
Larry - 22 Jul 2008 22:17 GMT
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:g64vre$et1$1
@aioe.org:

> http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/attachments/kyocera-7135-
> downloads/2089d1046412415-star-trek-bosuns-whistle-bosun56.zip

Well, that didn't take long!......(c;

I have two parrots:
Zeke - a 28-year-old Yellow Nape Amazon I got as an imported chick.

"Roger-Roger" (yeah, he says it just like ham radio) who is a 9-year-old
Blue and Gold Macaw I raised from a 6-day-old chick from a friend who
breeds commercially.

Roger-Roger did it first, a perfect Star Trek Whistle, because I left it
playing in looping mode on Winamp for a few minutes.

Zeke finally decided he liked it, too, about 8 minutes later...(hey,
he's older.)

Now I can't tell when the damned phone is ringing because the whole
place sounds like Star Trek frantically calling for help....ad
nauseum...

The whistle is much easier than the telephone ringers, which took them
both a "few days" to "synthesize", having only vocal chords and a
beak/tongue as a synthesizer.  

NOONE will sleep here after the Weather Alert receiver makes its beeping
noise alert.  They both call that thing, incessantly, for hours, after
it goes off, tested once a week...

I may have to cover their cages to shut 'em up.  Now they're "calling"
each other with the bosun's whistle!....

NEVER CURSE AT THEM in anger!  They will repeat it for WEEKS!

--------------------

Hee hee....I just called the sellphone from the Skype phone.  The
ringing goes on incessantly, even though the phone quit ringing.  
They're still "calling" back to it...what a riot!
4phun - 22 Jul 2008 12:46 GMT
> In article <g5uev2$s9...@aioe.org>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> And, some of them, to function as a WiFi router while functioning as a
> wireless (3G) modem.

You can use the iPhone as a 3G web access point after jail breaking
it. You then tether your other device via WiFi.
Larry - 22 Jul 2008 15:17 GMT
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:ee3695af-fe68-4b23-bfbc-
5e7c2c6020ee@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> You can use the iPhone as a 3G web access point after jail breaking
> it. You then tether your other device via WiFi.

....voiding its warranty and any hope of getting it fixed when it goes tits
up....by the way.
Larry - 19 Jul 2008 02:01 GMT
4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:e28e992b-793a-48b3-b651-
8a5b29fda71b@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com:

> Glide Mobile adds Microsoft Word support to the iPhone
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Media support to the iPhone — users of the Apple's handset can now
> edit, format and share their Microsoft Word documents!

Once again, please post the URLs for everyone to peruse these news posts
and form their own opinion, not just make blank announcements as if you're
the company mouthpiece for the various companies involved.  There must be
some URLs you can post for us to read.

Thank you for posting them!
 
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