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iPhone 3g owners, need to tether now? Here's a simple Work-around

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4phun - 18 Jul 2008 22:56 GMT
from
Francis Wong' Blog
Friday, July 18, 2008
iPhone 3g owners, need to tether now? Here's a simple Work-around
http://wongwords.blogspot.com/2008/07/workaround-to-tether-iphone-3g-to.html

Francis Wong has clever way to ... AT&T at the above link.

"
It's not perfect, but overall I'm finding the iPhone 3G to be living
up to its must-have gadget hype. I love this thing! It's a Nintendo
DS, iPod, GPS, and Phone all wrapped up into a single device. Which
makes the $199 price seem like a bargain.

The one feature I wish it had, was the ability to tether to my Laptop
computer. Tethering is the concept of using your mobile phone as a
broadband modem for your computer. I've been successfully doing this
for over a year with my Samsung Sync (a well-priced 3G phone which
sometimes sells for $0 with a contract)"

How does he do it? Think outside of the box.
http://wongwords.blogspot.com/2008/07/workaround-to-tether-iphone-3g-to.html
Todd Allcock - 18 Jul 2008 23:27 GMT
> from
> Francis Wong' Blog
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Francis Wong has clever way to ... AT&T at the above link.

> The one feature I wish it had, was the ability to tether to my Laptop
> computer. Tethering is the concept of using your mobile phone as a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> How does he do it? Think outside of the box.
> http://wongwords.blogspot.com/2008/07/workaround-to-tether-iphone-3g-to.html

That has to be the single stupidest piece of "iPhone news" you've ever
posted.

His "simple workaround?"  Move the iPhone's SIM into a DIFFERENT PHONE that
does allow tethering and USE IT INSTEAD!

Gee- that soluion is perfect for all iPhone shortcomings!  "Need spoken
turn-by-turn GPS directions?  Move your SIM into any other GPS-enabled
phone and use it instead!"

"Need to edit Office documents?  Move your SIM into a WinMo or Palm phone
and use it instead!"

"Need voice dial?  Move your SIM into virtuallyany other phone on the
planet Earth and use it instead!"

4phun, I await your other hacks and tweaks with baited breath.  Just how
many other phones will an iPhone owner need to have a full-function
smartphone?
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 19 Jul 2008 00:12 GMT
> Gee- that soluion is perfect for all iPhone shortcomings!  "Need spoken
> turn-by-turn GPS directions?  Move your SIM into any other GPS-enabled
> phone and use it instead!"

No, it's:

"Need spoken turn-by-turn GPS directions?  Pull out your Garmin
navigation unit!  This low-tech solution won't require any hacks, and it
won't ruin your iPhone. And best of all, it's FREE (if you already have
a Garmin navigation unit)."

(paraphrasing, but barely, from the web site Oxford quoted.)

Or maybe:

"Need phone coverage where the AT&T signal stinks?  Pull out one of your
other phones from another carrier!  This low-tech solution won't require
any hacks, and it won't ruin your iPhone.  And best of all, it's FREE
(if you already have some other phones on other carriers to pull out)."

This one would be easy to put on YouTube.  Kids would have Apple
backpacks ($499 for the iPack) to carry it all, men would have
Bat-belts, and women would have enormous purses ("the iPurse!).
4phun - 19 Jul 2008 00:52 GMT
On Jul 18, 7:12 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
> In article <g5r5hn$ag...@aioe.org>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> backpacks ($499 for the iPack) to carry it all, men would have
> Bat-belts, and women would have enormous purses ("the iPurse!).

You guys are forgetting that he is already totting a big computer
around. Throw a simple 3G GSM in there and reuse Apple's sim for the
time you want to teher to a real computer at no extra charge.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 19 Jul 2008 00:03 GMT
In article
<27e5b373-84d7-435c-b755-2ea23b968ecb@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,

> It's not perfect, but overall I'm finding the iPhone 3G to be living
> up to its must-have gadget hype. I love this thing! It's a Nintendo
> DS, iPod, GPS, and Phone all wrapped up into a single device. Which
> makes the $199 price seem like a bargain.

Can't wait until a couple months from now, when they give it away for
signing a two (maybe three) year contract.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 19 Jul 2008 00:07 GMT
In article
<27e5b373-84d7-435c-b755-2ea23b968ecb@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,

> It's not perfect, but overall I'm finding the iPhone 3G to be living
> up to its must-have gadget hype. I love this thing! It's a Nintendo
> DS, iPod, GPS, and Phone all wrapped up into a single device. Which
> makes the $199 price seem like a bargain.

Ah, the "it's everything in a single device!" argument.

> The one feature I wish it had, was the ability to tether to my Laptop
> computer. Tethering is the concept of using your mobile phone as a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> How does he do it? Think outside of the box.
> http://wongwords.blogspot.com/2008/07/workaround-to-tether-iphone-3g-to.html

But wait, Oxford, you forgot to quote the rest of the article.  Allow me:

> In the meantime, until somebody figures out a better way, I've found a
> low-tech solution that works when I must tether my laptop. Keep your old
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> require any hacks, and it won't ruin your iPhone. And best of all, it's FREE
> (if you already have a phone that can tether).

It's not free, and what's this?  "Hey, everyone, start carrying around
OTHER DEVICES to make up for what the iPhone can't do!"

A friend of mine had the old iPhone for a year, and upgraded to the new
iPhone.  He's had it for a week now, he's the last guy to complain about
anything, but wouldn't you know--after having the OLD iPhone, he says
the battery life on the new one sucks big time.

In fact, he's thinking of returning it and going back to the old one.

I suppose he could carry a waist-pack battery, like he's videotaping a
wedding or something.  Maybe the suit store can cut his jacket EXTRA big
or something, and make a special plug inside the inner jacket pocket.
4phun - 19 Jul 2008 00:49 GMT
On Jul 18, 7:07 pm, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com>
wrote:
> In article
> <27e5b373-84d7-435c-b755-2ea23b968...@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> wedding or something.  Maybe the suit store can cut his jacket EXTRA big
> or something, and make a special plug inside the inner jacket pocket.

Be a champ and point him to the simple fix I posted earlier today.
Later he can sue Apple for shipping the wrong firmware.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 19 Jul 2008 02:12 GMT
In article
<b8b57f81-031d-42a4-bd59-eec3562cdadb@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,

> > A friend of mine had the old iPhone for a year, and upgraded to the new
> > iPhone.  He's had it for a week now, he's the last guy to complain about
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Be a champ and point him to the simple fix I posted earlier today.

Already did.

He assured me that he's already done that, and did see some improvement
in battery life.  But overall, it really stinks compared to his first
gen iPhone.

So much so, he's probably going to take the 3G model back and go back to
his gen 1.

And this guy is a huge techie.  It's his job to be a huge techie.  He
works for one of the highest tech firms in Silicon Valley.

And after one week, he's determined that the 3G iPhone simply can't cut
it.
Larry - 19 Jul 2008 02:49 GMT
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in news:elmop-
BB2573.19072518072008@news.x-privat.org:

> It's not free, and what's this?  "Hey, everyone, start carrying around
> OTHER DEVICES to make up for what the iPhone can't do!"

As long as he's got one that tethers, he might as well just get his money
back before the 30 day trial is up and buy the N800 to run on the old
tethered phone.

Then he will have a real computer in his pocket with APPS to run!
David Moyer - 19 Jul 2008 04:13 GMT
> A friend of mine had the old iPhone for a year, and upgraded to the new
> iPhone.  He's had it for a week now, he's the last guy to complain about
> anything, but wouldn't you know--after having the OLD iPhone, he says
> the battery life on the new one sucks big time.
>
> In fact, he's thinking of returning it and going back to the old one.

it's not the phone, it's 3G, which is exactly what SJ was referring to.
your friend just needs to switch back to 2.5G and battery life will
return to normal. it's in preferences.

told ya! - SJ
Dennis Ferguson - 20 Jul 2008 03:10 GMT
>> A friend of mine had the old iPhone for a year, and upgraded to the new
>> iPhone.  He's had it for a week now, he's the last guy to complain about
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> told ya! - SJ

What I can't figure out is, if they knew 3G was a power problem
why did they shrink the battery?  I'd note the spec page says
WiFi isn't much easier on the battery than 3G for Internet use
(only 20% longer), and Edge is likely to be not too much better
either since Edge usually causes the power amplifier to run
really inefficiently.

You are right, however, that if all you want to do is talk on
the phone then sticking with GSM will maximize battery life.

Dennis Ferguson
Larry - 21 Jul 2008 02:06 GMT
> What I can't figure out is, if they knew 3G was a power problem
> why did they shrink the battery?

Watch the take apart videos closely.  The bigger battery wouldn't fit in
3G's bulging case.  There isn't room for it.

The bulging case has GPS antenna panel in it 2G didn't have.

It's a packaging problem.
Dennis Ferguson - 21 Jul 2008 02:43 GMT
>> What I can't figure out is, if they knew 3G was a power problem
>> why did they shrink the battery?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> The bulging case has GPS antenna panel in it 2G didn't have.

Not to mention the three power amplifiers (the TriQuint parts), one
for each 3G band it supports.  It is no wonder that smaller phones
limit their 3G band coverage.

It seems, however, that despite this the case of the new phone is
actually slimmer than the old one.  If they knew there were power
problems a little extra bulge might have been appropriate.

Dennis Ferguson
Larry - 21 Jul 2008 06:03 GMT
> t seems, however, that despite this the case of the new phone is
> actually slimmer than the old one.  If they knew there were power
> problems a little extra bulge might have been appropriate.
>
> Dennis Ferguson

They did take that into account:

http://www.tuaw.com/2008/07/17/iphone-3g-extended-battery-options/

http://richardsolo.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=264
Looking at this one, I think if we added the ROKR Z6m sellphone + the Nokia
Linux tablet (N800), this battery makes the iphoney combo BIGGER than my
tablet and sellphone!

Well, at least it's smaller than the boat battery in a wagon with a rope
wrapped around your a.s to tow it around....(c;

I've been thinking about how cool this one would be to wear so I could
recharge both the Linux tablet and ROKR sellphone simultaneously with the
12V Cords and Y dongle walking around in the mall!
http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2357

12VDC at 10 ampere hour will nearly crank a truck quickly....

Add the movie light strip it was intended to power for videos and it solves
that NO CAMERA FLASH problem iPhones are also saddled with.  You can light
up the whole street FOR HOURS!....

You'd never run out of power during the 2 hour DivX movie!
Larry - 21 Jul 2008 06:06 GMT
> t seems, however, that despite this the case of the new phone is
> actually slimmer than the old one.  If they knew there were power
> problems a little extra bulge might have been appropriate.
>
> Dennis Ferguson

I found better!  This one's Li-Polymer, much lighter, 84AH at 40A rate!

This'll make it so you boys can recharge the 3G just ONCE a month!

http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=4281
Larry - 19 Jul 2008 02:39 GMT
> How does he do it? Think outside of the box.
> http://wongwords.blogspot.com/2008/07/workaround-to-tether-iphone-3g-to
> .html

WOW! THE FIRST URL POSTED TODAY!!

Thanks!
Larry - 19 Jul 2008 02:45 GMT
> How does he do it? Think outside of the box.
> http://wongwords.blogspot.com/2008/07/workaround-to-tether-iphone-3g-to
> .html

Geez!  He's also come up with the solution to the BATTERY RUNTIME PROBLEM,
too!  Iphones will run for a week if you use the old phone and turn the
iPhone OFF!
 
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