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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / ATT Wireless / July 2008Wireless printing coming to the iPhone?
Wireless printing coming to the iPhone? iphoneatlas.com — The decryption of the iPhone OS 2.0 software/ firmware package has led to speculation that Apple may add support for wireless printing to the iPhone and iPod touch. That would be a nice 'touch' for the iPhone 3G. 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:579e7424-6f3d-4083-ba41- 1b2d5023923a@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com: > iphoneatlas.com I found this on the site which is very disturbing news and should be for all of you.... "Another complaint from developers concerns the restrictions placed on them by Apple’s SDK. Developers cannot patch into dialing to provide voice dialing, the camera to allow for video recording, or to add many missing features to the iPhone. Many developers are abandoning the development of some quality apps because of the limitations. " The apps can't use the phone? That's really stupid. Lots of business apps will want to use the phone, say to dial out from a client database. What is this fixation about not allowing video recording? Even the cheap camera phones make movies! I think a lot of developers are going to abandon it, fed up with the stupid, rigid SDK omissions. Maemo developers complain a lot too, but mostly about lack of sleep, Chinese food in goldfish carry home boxes, warm softdrinks and cold pizza. >Wireless printing coming to the iPhone? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >That would be a nice 'touch' for the iPhone 3G. 10 years ago a Palm Pilot could wirelessly print to an HP LaserJet via IR. Hardly new technology. > >Wireless printing coming to the iPhone? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Hardly new technology. None of the new laptops or normal cell phones do IR anymore. No printer I know of recent manufacture does it either. HP? > None of the new laptops or normal cell phones do IR anymore. No > printer I know of recent manufacture does it either. HP? That's certainly true with low-end phones like iPhone. Almost all phones sold in Japan have IR. It's the most common way to exchange contact information or files between phones. Nobody in their right mind uses Bluetooth in a public place in Japan for that purpose. -- Mark -- http://panda.com/mrc Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote. > That's certainly true with low-end phones like iPhone. > > Almost all phones sold in Japan have IR. It's the most common way > to exchange contact information or files between phones. Nobody > in their right mind uses Bluetooth in a public place in Japan for that > purpose. Personally, I'm a little peeved HTC has been leaving IR off the newer WinMo phones. Besides being a great "lowest common denominator" wireless communications format, it means my AT&T Tilt is my first WinMo device that can't print to my portable Sipix printers, or double as a TV remote in a pinch! >> That's certainly true with low-end phones like iPhone. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > can't print to my portable Sipix printers, or double as a TV remote in a > pinch! And I'm peeved that most notebook PCs are leaving IR off. > > can't print to my portable Sipix printers, or double as a TV remote in a > > pinch! > > And I'm peeved that most notebook PCs are leaving IR off. Aside from using it as a TV remote, what practical use is IrDA these days? It was devised in an era when it was going to be "the" short- range communication mechanism. Because of its directionality, short range and susceptibility to light interference, IrDA has kind of died out in favor of various RF technologies (including, but not limited to, Bluetooth). Even if your notebook had it, what use would it be without other peripherals to talk to? How many IrDA peripherals do you see in the stores? I personally have a lot of equipment that uses an RS232 link, so I mourn the loss of serial ports from regular computers. But I understand the reason for it. > > > can't print to my portable Sipix printers, or double as a TV remote in a > > > pinch! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Aside from using it as a TV remote, what practical use is IrDA these > days? Legacy support for my older non-BT PPCs, phones and printers. > It was devised in an era when it was going to be "the" short- > range communication mechanism. Because of its directionality, short > range and susceptibility to light interference, IrDA has kind of died > out in favor of various RF technologies (including, but not limited > to, Bluetooth). Agreed. > Even if your notebook had it, what use would it be without other > peripherals to talk to? How many IrDA peripherals do you see in the > stores? Zero, these days... > I personally have a lot of equipment that uses an RS232 link, so I > mourn the loss of serial ports from regular computers. But I > understand the reason for it. Agreed, but it doesn't mean I have to like it! ;-) > > > can't print to my portable Sipix printers, or double as a TV remote in a > > > pinch! [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > mourn the loss of serial ports from regular computers. But I > understand the reason for it. yeah, another cool thing about the iphone is it turns into a Remote over WiFi, so you can be anywhere in your house and control your tv or stereo. no more line of sight like you had to do with IR. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gY_ZyeLhYo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tccbbS0ksiE >> > > can't print to my portable Sipix printers, or double as a TV remote >> > > in a [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tccbbS0ksiE Only works with apple iTunes or apple TV. yeah, I can't take no more. David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> wrote in news:davmoy-6AD05E.20541520072008 @news.qwest.net: > yeah, another cool thing about the iphone is it turns into a Remote over > WiFi, so you can be anywhere in your house and control your tv or stereo. I thought you were talking about REAL remote control: http://youtube.com/watch?v=TH6cY-MSYNs Lemme know when you can use your Mac from the iPhone at the mall.... THAT's remote control! http://youtube.com/watch?v=A6vhwMzEPJc Of course, this works both ways....Wiimote control of the tablets...(c; http://youtube.com/watch?v=jhnZpkeFhGs (I found out it's not a good idea to play games with Wiimote in a restaurant, however...) > yeah, another cool thing about the iphone is it turns into a Remote over > WiFi, so you can be anywhere in your house and control your tv or stereo. If your TV is an AppleTV, and you're only watching pre-recorded content (not actual TV) and your stereo is something running iTunes, sure. Maybe someone will hack the PS3 and/or XBox360 to talk to the iPhone remote, but it's still a far cry from the most important feature of a TV remote, which is to talk to the TV and the set-top box to change channels, set volume, and turn power on and off. Not that I care, of course, because I don't watch TV, but if I did I would not call the iPhone "a remote that will control my TV" until TV sets have WiFi built in. > If your TV is an AppleTV, and you're only watching pre-recorded > content (not actual TV) and your stereo is something running iTunes, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > call the iPhone "a remote that will control my TV" until TV sets have > WiFi built in. the appletv makes all tv's wireless and airport express makes all stereos wireless where have you been? http://www.apple.com/appletv/features.html http://www.apple.com/airportexpress/features/airtunes.html > where have you been? Apparently not smoking whatever crack you smoke. I love my Apple products, but this is bullshit. > http://www.apple.com/appletv/features.html I don't see anything on that page that says you can use an AppleTV to talk IR back to a set-top box or a TV set to turn those appliances off and on and control their other functions. Without a WiFi to IR gateway an iPhone cannot control a TV set or most STBs. Controlling an AppleTV is not controlling a TV. > > http://www.apple.com/appletv/features.html > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > an iPhone cannot control a TV set or most STBs. Controlling an AppleTV > is not controlling a TV. you'd be shocked to learn how much content you can control via appetv, so someday you'll see what i'm talking about. > you'd be shocked to learn how much content you can control via appetv, > so someday you'll see what i'm talking about. You'd be shocked to learn that isn't what we were talking about. We were talking about whether or not a device without IrDA can act as a universal remote for the devices people have in their entertainment center right now. Hey, by the way - guess what technology the Apple remote that comes with the MacBook etc. uses. Hint - it's still electromagnetic radiation, but the wavelength is shorter than radio. I fully agree with you that someday every piece of entertainment you enjoy will be delivered on an IP network, but we're not there yet. And furthermore, even when we reach that point, it has nothing to do with what txcvr will be required to talk to the remote control input of consumer equipment. IR is cheap to Tx (one LED and a microcontroller) and cheap to Rx (one photo-FET, an RC notch filter, maybe an op-amp, and a microcontroller), it works across the world, and it has no regulatory hurdles (no type approval is required). > > Personally, I'm a little peeved HTC has been leaving IR off the newer WinMo > > phones... > And I'm peeved that most notebook PCs are leaving IR off. As am I, but at least I've "fixed" that with a $5 USB-IR dongle. There's no such fix for my PPC phone! ;-) > 10 years ago a Palm Pilot could wirelessly print to an HP LaserJet via > IR. > > Hardly new technology. and the Newton did it years before that. And your point is? David Moyer <davmoy@world.com> wrote in news:davmoy-BA7383.20435920072008 @news.qwest.net: >> 10 years ago a Palm Pilot could wirelessly print to an HP LaserJet via >> IR. >> >> Hardly new technology. > > and the Newton did it years before that. And your point is? I can print to a whole line of them on the shelf at Best Buy from my N800 Linux tablet.......and have....(c; What's fun is to wait until the sales wienie is showing off a big HP printer to someone, then, over the wifi connection, print out a full page porn color photo for the astonished, but appreciative, smiling customer! They'll never figure out where it came from. They're just not that smart...(c; They got a new Pioneer BT-installed car stereo over in the car stereo department. When noone was looking, I paired it with my Z6m sellphone. Then, you wait until some real rappers with their pants hanging halfway down their a.ses and doorags over their heads start looking. When they press the red button to hear that radio, you click PLAY on the coupled phone and play some real honkytonk shitkickin' country music at full volume through it.... Great fun these Best Buy stores. I bet that lady that was buyin' the HP printer has still got that color photo of the Chippendales taped to the wall over her side of the bed....(c; God those guys are BIG! |
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