I just spotted this interesting exchange on the symbian (Nokia's OS)
website...

22-07-2008, 05:59 PM
sdeetz sdeetz is offline
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Pretty fair, but....
OK, as comparisons go that was pretty fair. However, since I am one of
the lucky few that actually owns a iphone 3G and a Nokia N95 8GB, I
have a couple of notes here.

(I actually have a Samsung Blackjack and a HTC Kaiser too, but they
are just about retired for me. I hate the stylus need on the Kaiser,
and the Samsung just isn't as nice as the N95 or iphone)

First, on the Maps / GPS evaluation, you had a ipod Touch. I know
that, as you said at the beginning of the review, the software is the
same. However, the hardware is not. The iphone 3G DOES have built in
GPS, and it picks up signals FAST. In a side by side comparison here
in Los Angeles, the iphone picked up my exact position and was ready
to start tracking my walking a full 60 seconds before the N95 was. And
it is very accurate as well. Even though there is no pedestrian mode,
it followed me down every street with surprising accuracy.

Next, I tested out the downloading of high res images off the internet
that you described. I chose a full 5MP image that I have posted on my
personal web page. It saved fine to the photo library, and opened up
no problem on screen. Let me rotate it, zoom in and out, etc. I did
not experience any of the glitches you mention at all. Not sure if
that's a ipod touch issue or not.

Although all 3 Apple devices run the 2.0 software, there are different
builds for each device. For example, the iphone 3G runs build # 5A345.
My old iphone that was updated to 2.0 software runs build # 5A347. I
don't have a ipod touch, so I'm not sure which build it runs. So that
picture issue doesn't seem to hold true on the iphone 3G at least.

Also, I agree about your Safari comments, but you have to take some of
that with a grain of salt. The whole point of Safari is to take you to
the REAL internet pages, not a mobile version. So of course, there
will be some sites that are easier to navigate with a stripped down
mobile version, but do you want that for every site?

I would prefer the full desktop web pages all the time. That's why
some sites do develop web apps when deemed necessary, or they deveop a
full native app as you showed. In my experience, the iphone web apps
and full native apps are optimized far beyond what a typical mobile
web site does anyway, and are faster to use.

So I prefer having the full desktop websites by default, and the
option to use native or web apps for the few things that I do often
that need detailed navigation through a site. (Like book flights, etc)

With those three things accounted for, the Nokia N95 is still ahead by
a little though. It is a great device, and I love it.

For me there are two determining factors in your review that would
dictate which device would be best for a user. ..

One is video. If you need it, obviously you want the N95. Period. I
don't shoot video at all on my N95, so this is not a consideration at
all for me. Since this one category was a difference of 19 points
alone in your review, if a user doesn't care about video, the two
devices score virtually the exact same number. (coupled with the above
points I made on GPS, Safari, and photos)

Second is the keyboard. I type a ton of emails on my phone while I
travel, and the lack of a keyboard on the N95 means it stays in my bag
more often, and I reach for the iphone to do my emails. This is the
big one for me.

If you only read emails on your phone, or only type short responses,
then this is not a consideration and the N95 is your baby. But if like
me you type a lot, you probably require a qwerty, and lugging around a
bluetooth keyboard is an option for some, but I don't like having
extra stuff when I travel. I like to travel lite.

I use both devices because both are a pleasure to use. Clearly the
best two mobile devices on the market today. But for day to day uses,
I find myself reaching for the iphone more often than anything else.
We'll see if that changes when the S60 touch interface comes out, and
we see how the keyboard data entry works. If it's even close to the
iphone, that will probably become the new device for me.

4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:69dd44d4-f108-41fd-9daa-
f36b32792a23@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

Thanks....(c;

Symbian will dominate because Nokia dominates....by a wide margin that
nearly has put Motorola out of business, not just in sellphones, either.

Now that Nokia Labs has full access to everything Symbian without all those
lawyers breathing down their necks, expect lots of new Symbian
apps/features to develop more quickly, now that licensing is no issue.

As iPhone is another ARM processor device, like my N800, wouldn't it be a
hoot if the Linux geniuses took a shine to it, now that it has better
bandwidth and GPS, and modified Maemo Linux for it with a virtual machine
to emulate the phone/Apple stuff so it would actually function on ATT/T-
mobile by spoofing what they're looking for.  You'd still have a phone
bill, access to iTunes, etc., but the phone wouldn't have to be jailbroken
with a hacked Apple OS as it wouldn't be running one...instead running an
open source Linux with hundreds of freeware apps.  iTunes would think you
had an iPhone as it interrogated the virtual machine with the same data
burned into your original ROMs, stolen when the Linux installer reloaded
the OS.

With all these iPhones around, what a helluva neat thing that would be, a
Maemo Linux iPhone.....YOU controlled, not "them"...(c;

....even Bluetooth would have all the protocols!