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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / ATT Wireless / July 2008Comparing the iPhone's technology to rocket science.
WebtopMania Saturday, July 19, 2008 The iPhone 3G is a pocket satellite. Ever worked with satellite engineering teams? I have. I had some experience in the AOCS (Attitude and Orbit Control Systems) subsystem team in the ESA-SSETI program, designing ESEO, a micro-satellite designed to take space pictures and do some simple science, while I was an undergrad student. Ok, we were all students, and most of us were complete noobs at satellite engineering. Most of us remained so afterwards. Cool times though. Cool thoughts comparing the 3g iPhone's technology to rocket science... http://webtopmania.blogspot.com/2008/07/iphone-3g-is-pocket-satellite.html THE BOTTOM LINE (after a long post about designing reliable satellites) "I guess Steve Jobs could have made a great satellite engineer. But my point IS, we can send an iPhone in space, let it orbit around the Earth, and navigate it and make it take cool snapshots of the Earth and then upload them to a web-site. Maybe it can be built around a light-weight infrastructure with some solar-panels in order to extend the batteries longevity. But anyway, sending an iPhone in space is FEASIBLE! Now for what matters, the iPhone: hype or not? I say hell, no! The iphone IS a disruptive gadget. I had tried before an HTC P3300. They suck at doing what the iPhone does." > WebtopMania > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > I say hell, no! The iphone IS a disruptive gadget. I had tried before > an HTC P3300. They suck at doing what the iPhone does." Tell me, before you put that iPhone in space (to do what, take pictures?), can you please get it to sync my frickin' Outlook calendar here on Earth? > > WebtopMania > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Tell me, before you put that iPhone in space (to do what, take pictures?), > can you please get it to sync my frickin' Outlook calendar here on Earth? Can't do that Carl. That ain't 'rocket science'. BTW in the 3G iPhone there is a selection for which calender you want to use on the left hand top screen. Is it already synced and you are viewing the wrong calendar? I did not know I had more than Outlook calendar until I noticed that view setting. >>> WebtopMania >> [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > viewing the wrong calendar? I did not know I had more than Outlook > calendar until I noticed that view setting. You're right, it isn't rocket science. I was just hoping that Apple would walk before it tried to run. I only have one calendar on my screen. I can sync it with my office's computer but not my home one, which is more important to me. I've tried everything suggested at this point. I won't bore you with the details. You can peruse my previous posts. > > But my point IS, we can send an iPhone in space, let it orbit around > > the Earth, and navigate it and make it take cool snapshots of the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > pictures?), > can you please get it to sync my frickin' Outlook calendar here on Earth? Given the sync problems you've had, I thought you'd be more than willing to help yours achieve escape velocity! ;-) >>> But my point IS, we can send an iPhone in space, let it orbit around >>> the Earth, and navigate it and make it take cool snapshots of the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Given the sync problems you've had, I thought you'd be more than > willing to help yours achieve escape velocity! ;-) Isn't that feature already built into it??? ;-) And you're damn right. I should sell it, but I needed a new iPod anyway and I got mine at a very good price, so I'll hold on and see if software 2.1 is considerate enough to have a fix. > Now for what matters, the iPhone: hype or not? > I say hell, no! The iphone IS a disruptive gadget. I had tried before > an HTC P3300. They suck at doing what the iPhone does." Perhaps. However, it's real strength is that it also sucks at doing what the iPhone DOESN'T do! ;-) >> Now for what matters, the iPhone: hype or not? >> I say hell, no! The iphone IS a disruptive gadget. I had tried before >> an HTC P3300. They suck at doing what the iPhone does." > > Perhaps. However, it's real strength is that it also sucks at doing > what the iPhone DOESN'T do! ;-) Hey, I'm a huge fan of yours Todd, but this one has gotten over my head. There appears to be a double negative in it. What am I reading wrong? > >> I say hell, no! The iphone IS a disruptive gadget. I had tried before > >> an HTC P3300. They suck at doing what the iPhone does." > > > > Perhaps. However, it's real strength is that it also sucks at doing > > what the iPhone DOESN'T do! ;-) > Hey, I'm a huge fan of yours Todd, but this one has gotten over my head. > There appears to be a double negative in it. What am I reading wrong? Oh well- they say a joke isn't funny if you have to explain it, but it was late when I da hed that off, so I'll explain it anyway and accept the consequences! ;-) The old joke about WinMobile is that it's a jack of all trades and a master of none. The best analogy anyone has come up with is that it's the "Swiss Army Knife" of mobile devices- no one in their right mind would use the scissors or screwdriver of a Swiss Army knife if a REAL pair of scissors or a screwdriver were around, but the knife works in a pinch. So, I'm happy to conceed that a WinMo device, like the P3300 mentioned above, is a mediocre iPod or web browser compared to the iPhone- yes, it "sucks" at what the iPhone does. However, it's also a mediocre remote desktop terminal, NNTP newsreader, WiFi IP phone, turn-by-turn navigation device, video camera, network share browser, etc., so it also "sucks" at doing things the iPhone doesn't do at all. And that is an advantage- not a shortcoming... Like with the Swiss Army knife- that lousy pair of tucked-away included scissors beats having no scissors on you at all! My perspective may be skewed- I've ben playing with Windows CE devices for nearly a decade and pushing their limits in order to (successfully) use them as laptop replacements, rather than the "PC Companions" or peripherals they were originally envisioned as. My Tilt _IS_ my "laptop." I can take it anywhere and use it for virtually anything anyone would use a laptop for. On Jul 29, 10:51 am, Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote: > > >> I say hell, no! The iphone IS a disruptive gadget. I had tried before > > >> an HTC P3300. They suck at doing what the iPhone does." [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > My Tilt _IS_ my "laptop." I can take it anywhere and use it for virtually > anything anyone would use a laptop for. Let's see Todd, if I am sending this from my iPhone doesn't that make one of your statements false? Didn't you also see a week ago information on remoting a PC on an iPhone right here? Playing with your Tilt has blinded to reality? Whoever put the delete key above the return key on the iPhone should be shot! > > So, I'm happy to conceed that a WinMo device, like the P3300 mentioned above, > > is a mediocre iPod or web browser compared to the iPhone- yes, it "sucks" > > at what the iPhone does. However, it's also a mediocre remote desktop > > terminal, NNTP newsreader, WiFi IP phone, turn-by-turn navigation device, > > video camera, network share browser, etc., so it also "sucks" at doing > > things the iPhone doesn't do at all. And that is an advantage- not a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Let's see Todd, if I am sending this from my iPhone doesn't that make > one of your statements false? If you're using Google Groups, or other web-based news interface, no- I specifically said "NNTP." I use a newsreader for news, not Google, or "cellbanter," etc. While I'm not personally a supporter of the "Usenet Improvement Project" (a bunch of net nannies who filter all Google Groups posts and encourage others to do the same) I'm aware of their presence. I prefer to be killfiled for what I say- not how I said it! ;-) > Didn't you also see a week ago information on remoting a PC on an > iPhone right here? Often your great "news reports" turn out to be, um, overstated? But a quick Google search showed three iPhone remote desktop possibilities- one that seems to work ok with XP, but troublesome on Vista, one that works pretty well with Macs (both require Jailbreaking, of course) and a way to kludge access to LogMeIn's paid service without using (unavailable for iPhone) client software. That's certainly "good enough" RD support for anyone needing it, so I'll conceed this one to you. > Playing with your Tilt has blinded to reality? No, but I'll be first to admit I don't keep up on the latest and greatest jailbreak-required developments. Your post on the remote desktop "breakthrough" might have been lost in the noise of "ten-millionth flashlight app downloaded," "use iPhone as 3G modem by replacing it with different phone," or "iPhone now in stock in Outer Mongolian Apple Stores" news flashes you constantly barrage us with. Certainly some light-duty "hacking" (like registry editing) is occasionally needed to improve the user experience with Windows Mobile, but it doesn't need to hacked out of the box to install "unapproved" 3rd-party apps and utilities, at least. 4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:07b374cb-159c-4564-bd34- ccdbaad7d6ad@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com: > Let's see Todd, if I am sending this from my iPhone doesn't that make > one of your statements false? 07/29/08 19:24:37 dns 32.129.255.180 nslookup 32.129.255.180 Canonical name: mobile-032-129-255-180.mycingular.net Cool! X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_0 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5A347 Safari/525.20,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Web app, of course.....(c; Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in news:g6naqb$600$1 @aioe.org: > so it also "sucks" at doing > things the iPhone doesn't do at all. And that is an advantage- not a > shortcoming... Like copy and paste??.....(c; >>>> I say hell, no! The iphone IS a disruptive gadget. I had tried >>>> before an HTC P3300. They suck at doing what the iPhone does." [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > My Tilt _IS_ my "laptop." I can take it anywhere and use it for > virtually anything anyone would use a laptop for. That makes sense. I think I got lost in the pronoun exchanges. When someone wrote, "They suck at doing what the iPhone does", I thought the "they" in that referred to the iPhone itself, as in "(The iPhone) sucks at what the iPhone itself does". So, when you wrote yours, I thought the "it" in your response also referred to the iPhone, as in "(the Iphone's) real strength is that (the iPhone) also sucks at doing what the iPhone DOESN'T do!" Imagine my confusion! :-) "Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in news:488f5acb$0$7331 $607ed4bc@cv.net: > Imagine my confusion! :-) Imagine ours!....(c; > That makes sense. I think I got lost in the pronoun exchanges. When someone > wrote, "They suck at doing what the iPhone does", I thought the "they" in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Imagine my confusion! :-) Yeah, I considered clarifying it, but instead, (in a rare moment!) remembered my Shakespeare: "Brevity is the soul of wit.." |
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