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AT&T refuses to sell iPhone
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Elmo P. Shagnasty - 07 Sep 2008 00:01 GMT http://blogs.computerworld.com/at_t_wont_sell_me_an_iphone_at_any_price
After months of cajoling, I finally convinced my wife to buy an iPhone. She went to the local AT&T store today, and was actually turned down. She is, apparently, "upgrade ineligible." She asked if there was any price at which should could buy it, and they said no...
Our whole family is on AT&T, and my wife and I both use BlackBerry devices. We pay AT&T well over $4,000 per year for wireless service alone. I've been trying to get my wife to get rid of her BlackBerry and buy an iPhone 3G so I could use her phone to review App Store software and test various services for my ongoig reporting on the cell phone universe. Because we're the wrong kind of customer (based on a complicated set of criteria that includes how long we've had our plans and how much we pay), the local AT&T store in Santa Barbara, Calif., flat out rejected us for an iPhone. My wife asked if there was *any* price she could pay, and the sales person checked with the manager, came back and said no. He told us that we would be turned down at other AT&T stores and at the Apple stores as well.
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$4000/year revenue they generate for AT&T, and AT&T won't sell them a product at any price?
Wow. Nice going, AT&T. Nice going, Apple.
He WANTS to get rid of the Blackberry, but AT&T and Apple won't let him. At any price. Regardless.
No phone for YOU!
Michael N. Paris - 07 Sep 2008 01:05 GMT There are several reasons and solutions, first, call AT&T Business Services (Premier) and complain politly, they may either ship you one, or call the local corp stores and tell them to sell it to you. Second, the jerkoffs at the local store make no commision on the sale of a hot item. So these guys/gals don't want to sell it to you, but rather a new customer or eligable customer. At the worse they should have sold it at an unsubsidized price, at the best, they should allow an upgrade.
I've had issues with a local store in the past, after I was told to go and get to added phones for my daughters, they wanted my to toss medianet on them, and I didn't want to. I called 611, from my phone, they called another story which was also close and in 5 mins had them up and running. Some guy I knew worked at the store told me the manager and salesperson was pissed because they basically got reamed out by corporate. I like you have an expensive plan.
My only problems with an iphone sale was at an AppleStore do to my FAN, I just gave up and walked out, went to an AT&T store they ordered one, had it like in two days, and no problem.
Larry - 07 Sep 2008 02:29 GMT > There are several reasons and solutions, first, call AT&T Business > Services (Premier) and complain politly, they may either ship you one, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > FAN, I just gave up and walked out, went to an AT&T store they > ordered one, had it like in two days, and no problem. Sure wish he'd been recording this "transaction" on video so he could post it to YouTube for the world, and Steve Jobs, to see. That would certainly get 5 stars by the droves!
Kurt - 07 Sep 2008 02:29 GMT > There are several reasons and solutions, first, call AT&T Business Services > (Premier) and complain politly, they may either ship you one, or call the [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > just gave up and walked out, went to an AT&T store they ordered one, had it > like in two days, and no problem. Idiots work everywhere, especially in the cell phone industries, so no surprise to hear of that gaffe.
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News - 07 Sep 2008 02:48 GMT > http://blogs.computerworld.com/at_t_wont_sell_me_an_iphone_at_any_price > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > No phone for YOU! So Oxford whouldn't sell the guy the phone? Imagine that.
Oxford - 07 Sep 2008 04:13 GMT > > My wife asked if there was *any* price she could pay, and the sales > > person checked with the manager, came back and said no. He told us that [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > So Oxford whouldn't sell the guy the phone? Imagine that. and what exactly do i have to do with it?
Elmo and that particular store was in error, not AT&T or Apple.
read the latest:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/at_t_wont_sell_me_an_iphone_at_any_price
(NOTE: This story has been updated with new information. It turns out that the AT&T store management was confused about AT&T policy, and gave us false information about upgrading. Details at the end of the post.)
Mike M - 07 Sep 2008 09:21 GMT >>> My wife asked if there was *any* price she could pay, and the sales >>> person checked with the manager, came back and said no. He told us that [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > that the AT&T store management was confused about AT&T policy, and gave > us false information about upgrading. Details at the end of the post.) Get a new Wife?????
News - 07 Sep 2008 16:03 GMT >>>My wife asked if there was *any* price she could pay, and the sales >>>person checked with the manager, came back and said no. He told us that [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > and what exactly do i have to do with it? You are owned.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 13 Sep 2008 00:53 GMT > > So Oxford whouldn't sell the guy the phone? Imagine that. > > and what exactly do i have to do with it? > > Elmo and that particular store was in error, not AT&T or Apple. Elmo wasn't in error.
Elmo quoted a news report, which at the time I quoted it was 100% current.
How is it that Elmo was in error?
No phone for YOU!
4phun - 07 Sep 2008 04:47 GMT > http://blogs.computerworld.com/at_t_wont_sell_me_an_iphone_at_any_price
> No phone for YOU! UPDATE #3: I finally got through to AT&T's national customer service number, then waited on hold for about 20 minutes while they tried to get through to the local store. It turns out that store management in Santa Barbara was confused about the policy, and that my wife is in fact eligible to purchase iPhones at the normal prices, plus a $200 penalty for being an existing, loyal AT&T customer.
Final thoughts:
This whole episode has eroded my confidence in AT&T and Apple. Here's what they got wrong:
AT&T store management failed to learn basic details about their own upgrade policy, and told a customer (and probably many others) that she was ineligible for an iPhone upgrade at any price; that other stores would tell her the same thing; and that it was uncertain whether she would be eligible to upgrade to an iPhone even when the account became eligible for upgrades in general. It's foolish to nickle-and-dime a $4,000-per-year customer, especially when that customer is trying to upgrade to a much more expensive data plan. It took me two hours to get anyone from AT&T on the phone. When I did call, they made me give my phone number three times. Because my wife's BlackBerry is malfunctioning, she's eligible to upgrade to absolutely any phone immediately -- except the iPhone. Why the iPhone exceptionalism? Why doesn't Apple make sure their product isn't taken off the table when an AT&T customer wants to make a conversion? Apple and/or AT&T act like everyone is a rabid fanboy. But many people, like my wife, are current Windows and BlackBerry users who are merely toying with the idea of becoming Apple customers. When these fence-sitters finally muster up the interest to go give an Apple product a try, and are met with resistance, incompetence and something that feels like Apple snobbery, much more is being lost than a single iPhone purchase. My wife needs a new laptop, too, and might have loved the iPhone and made a total, lifelong conversion to iPhone, and Macs, too. Now she's got a broken phone and needs to upgrade and will probably just get another BlackBerry because she harbors ill will toward Apple. We're also now thinking about switching carriers. We'll have to file this one in the "FAIL" category.
anon - 07 Sep 2008 14:32 GMT > This whole episode has eroded my confidence in AT&T and Apple. ATT 's phone upgrade policy has NOTHING to do with Apple.
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