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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / ATT Wireless / September 2008iPhone heading to EVDO/Verizon for 2009?
9to5mac.com — Apple and Verizon looking to make amends after Apple went away from Verizon in 2007 and over to AT&T. Verizon's reasons for not taking the iPhone are all moot at this point anyway. http://digg.com/apple/iPhone_heading_to_EVDO_Verizon_for_2009 > 9to5mac.com — Apple and Verizon looking to make amends after Apple > went away from Verizon in 2007 and over to AT&T. Verizon's reasons for > not taking the iPhone are all moot at this point anyway. > > http://digg.com/apple/iPhone_heading_to_EVDO_Verizon_for_2009 And the fool continues to show his lack of knowledge. The iPhone won't be going anywhere- AT&T will still have the exclusive on it for well beyond 2009. > > 9to5mac.com — Apple and Verizon looking to make amends after Apple > > went away from Verizon in 2007 and over to AT&T. Verizon's reasons for [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > going anywhere- AT&T will still have the exclusive on it for well beyond > 2009. Got to take a hit. You have not read the post or you would not post misinformation, there appears that there is no extended exclusive binding Apple to AT&T in the USA. Surprise? But then if you are still trying to master crayons this may be beyond you skill to comprehend. No iphone for you! Next. >> iPhone 3Gold <vic.hea...@gmail.com> amazed us all with the following >> inne [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > misinformation, there appears that there is no extended exclusive > binding Apple to AT&T in the USA. Really? http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/08/att_extends_ip h.html "In exchange for its payout, AT&T got a year extension, into 2010, on its exclusive distribution deal with Apple, people familiar with the matter say. Sources asked to not be named because the terms are confidential. " or maybe from the horse's mouth itself?: http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=4800&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=25791 "Under the terms of a new agreement with Apple, AT&T remains the exclusive U.S. carrier of the iPhone 3G, which will be available beginning July 11 at a starting price of $199 with a two-year contract." or how about an Apple fanboi blogboard/: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/08/01/att_may_hold_on_to_exclusi ve_iphone_deal_until_2010.html "AT&T may hold on to exclusive iPhone deal until 2010" Need more? There are only a couple of thousand more that give the same information. > Surprise? Only surprise here is that you are as clueless as you appear. > But then if you are still trying to master crayons this may be beyond > you skill to comprehend. Don't worry- Teacher will let you play with the scissors someday. > No iphone for you! Only correct statement of the post. I need my phone to do to much to be hobbled with that piece of consumer glitz. > Next. > "Under the terms of a new agreement with Apple, AT&T remains the > exclusive U.S. carrier of the iPhone 3G, which will be available > beginning July 11 at a starting price of $199 with a two-year contract." There is a loophole if the contract says "iPhone 3G". That opens up the possibility of an "iPhone CDMA" or "iPhone EV-DO". AT&T would certainly sue if that were the case, and it'll be quite entertaining to watch. It is quite doubtful that Verizon is talking with Apple about such a project. Verizon doesn't need iToy. Given Apple's history of dealing with second-rate mobile phone companies worldwide, it's far more likely that they are talking with SPRINT if they have any thought of resuming their CDMA efforts. -- Mark -- http://panda.com/mrc Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote. > There is a loophole if the contract says "iPhone 3G". That opens up the > possibility of an "iPhone CDMA" or "iPhone EV-DO". AT&T would certainly > sue if that were the case, and it'll be quite entertaining to watch. That may be one of the reasons Steve Jobs lost his a.s today, besides the market slide.... wo analysts cut their ratings on Apple stock, prompting a sell-off. AAPL: Apple Inc Last: 105.26-22.98-17.92% 5:15pm 09/29/2008 Many of the company officers don't have to care. They've been wholesale dumping AAPL shares for months, slowly, quietly as possible. NET SHARE PURCHASE ACTIVITY Insider Purchases - Last 6 Months Shares Trans Purchases N/A 0 Sales 1,062,040 13 Net Shares Purchased (Sold) (1,062,040) 13 >> "Under the terms of a new agreement with Apple, AT&T remains the >> exclusive U.S. carrier of the iPhone 3G, which will be available [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > certainly sue if that were the case, and it'll be quite entertaining > to watch. Keep in mind that what I pasted from the website was just a clip from an AT&T press release touting the release of the 3g iPhone. I'm sure there is something with a little more detail out there- I wasn't putting that much effort into it. Every other article and blog I can find points to at least a 2010 exclusivity date. > It is quite doubtful that Verizon is talking with Apple about such a > project. Verizon doesn't need iToy. > > Given Apple's history of dealing with second-rate mobile phone > companies worldwide, it's far more likely that they are talking with > SPRINT if they have any thought of resuming their CDMA efforts. I din't think they'll find an eager suitor with either company. With each passing day, the iPhone loses a little more of its luster. Android is to the 21 century Apple as Microsfot was to the '80's Microsoft. In six months it starts to overtake the iPhone and both Sprint and Verizon know it. Of course, that doesn't take current economic conditions into consideration. Apple is not equipped to handle any type of spending slowdown. The premium price they have placed on every segment of their product portfolio will contribute to their irrelevence in modern society long before anything else. > -- Mark -- > > http://panda.com/mrc > Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch. > Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote. > Every other article and blog I can find points to at least a 2010 > exclusivity date. Let me be clear: I doubt that Apple would be stupid enough enough to try claiming that the exclusivity deal was for "iPhone 3G" and that "iPhone CDMA" is a different problem. I merely stated it as a possibility. > I din't think they'll find an eager suitor with either company. Sprint might be desperate enough, and of course they would have some guaranteed sales. Fanboys will buy anything! > With each > passing day, the iPhone loses a little more of its luster. Android is to > the 21 century Apple as Microsoft was to the '80's Microsoft. In six > months it starts to overtake the iPhone and both Sprint and Verizon know > it. I agree completely on all of the above. Apple blew its wad, and now has to deal with the very real problem that developers will choose Android over iPhone simply because they do not want to deal with Apple and/or Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs' control-freak behavior only works when there is no alternative, and creates resentful people that will stab the control freak in the back at the first opportunity. History repeats itself. > Of course, that doesn't take current economic conditions into > consideration. Apple is not equipped to handle any type of spending > slowdown. The premium price they have placed on every segment of their > product portfolio will contribute to their irrelevence in modern society > long before anything else. Yup, this current market meltdown is quite enjoyable. -- Mark -- http://panda.com/mrc Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote. >> Every other article and blog I can find points to at least a 2010 >> exclusivity date. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Sprint might be desperate enough, and of course they would have some > guaranteed sales. Fanboys will buy anything! Don't know about that one. The Razr represents a good example of too little, too late. Sprint got into the game late, and while they sold their fair share, they never saw the success of the other carriers that had been on board since day one. Consumers aren't looking for a Sprint iPhone. They are looking for a Sprint that can get their bill right and get problems fixed the first time. > Yup, this current market meltdown is quite enjoyable. Very enjoyable, indeed! I bought Wachovia's entrails yesterday at $1.64 at the close. I've doubled my money ALREADY this morning! It's at $2.93, 4, 5 and rising very rapidly after dumping the banking load onto Citigroup. GO, WACHOVIA, GO! THE SOUTH SHALL RISE AGAIN! Oops...now over $3/share! at 10:11....Buy, Buy, BUY! iPhone 3Gold <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:c3376582-d6b2-4fe0-a102- e3d3868a481a@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com: > Next. http://blog.wired.com/cultofmac/2007/05/apples_5year_de.html http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireless/2007-05-21-at&t-iphone_N.htm http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9742441-7.html http://seekingalpha.com/article/65084-apple-s-at-t-deal-is-costly http://emperor.tidbits.com/TidBITS/Talk/1973 http://chattahbox.com/technology/2008/08/04/att-has-exclusive-contract-for- apple-iphone-until-2010/ http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=4800&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=25791 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/07/24/10-fas-2-the-iphones-anti- competitive-att-contract/ http://www.ipodobserver.com/story/36174 http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/specials/iPhone.jsp http://weblog.infoworld.com/yager/archives/2008/07/ahead_of_the_cu_9.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10004957-17.html http://sprintconnection.kansascity.com/?q=node/731 ..........Next? Your credibility is now about ZERO. >> 9to5mac.com — Apple and Verizon looking to make amends after Apple >> went away from Verizon in 2007 and over to AT&T. Verizon's reasons for [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > going anywhere- AT&T will still have the exclusive on it for well beyond > 2009. Apple will find a way around the 2012 deal they made with AT&T, they have to. The Android has them terrified of a repeat of the PC versus Mac war which even Steve Jobs admits that Apple lost. Verizon is the largest carrier in the U.S. for postpaid customers, and soon to be much larger when the Alltel acquisition is complete. Apple isn't going to write off 80 million potential customers, customers that don't seem in a hurry to switch to AT&T just to get the iPhone. What's rather amusing is that the reason Verizon turned down the iPhone was that they didn't like Apple's demands in terms of the sales model. After the original iPhone sold fewer than expected units, Apple promptly switched to the normal cell phone sales model of subsidized handsets and 2 year contracts. > The Android has them terrified of a repeat of the PC versus Mac war which > even Steve Jobs admits that Apple lost. AAPL is currently down 19.96... -- Mark -- http://panda.com/mrc Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote. >>> 9to5mac.com — Apple and Verizon looking to make amends after Apple >>> went away from Verizon in 2007 and over to AT&T. Verizon's reasons [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Apple will find a way around the 2012 deal they made with AT&T, they > have to. AT&T will never let it happen- they become a nobody without the iPhone. It's the only differentiator they have. Apple can't pay them enough to void the agreement. > The Android has them terrified of a repeat of the PC versus > Mac war which even Steve Jobs admits that Apple lost. And it should have them scared. The answer is to adopt the open platform, not switch carriers. The PC wars should have taught them that an open environment will always beat the proprietary and closed one. > Verizon is the > largest carrier in the U.S. for postpaid customers, and soon to be > much larger when the Alltel acquisition is complete. Apple isn't going > to write off 80 million potential customers, customers that don't seem > in a hurry to switch to AT&T just to get the iPhone. And by the time they are able to sell phones on the Verizon network, the Android platform will have already exceeded anything that Apple is willing to do. Even by mid-2009, the applications available for Android phones will dwarf the entire Apple application store in terms of functionality and cost. And just as the iPhone should, each successive generation of Android phone will address many of the built-in functionality concerns that current models suffer from. For Apple, it could be too late to not lose market share. > What's rather amusing is that the reason Verizon turned down the > iPhone was that they didn't like Apple's demands in terms of the sales > model. After the original iPhone sold fewer than expected units, Apple > promptly switched to the normal cell phone sales model of subsidized > handsets and 2 year contracts. True, but by the time Verizon has access to the phone it may be too late. Look at Spint and the Razr for a recent example. >9to5mac.com Apple and Verizon looking to make amends after Apple >went away from Verizon in 2007 and over to AT&T. Verizon's reasons for >not taking the iPhone are all moot at this point anyway. > >http://digg.com/apple/iPhone_heading_to_EVDO_Verizon_for_2009 Cant happen ATT has exclusive contract through to 2010 and that might be extended. http://chattahbox.com/technology/2008/08/04/att-has-exclusive-contract-for-apple -iphone-until-2010/ |
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