I recently got ATT mMode (the GSM service). I have been a long time ATT
wireless customer, going all the way back to when SunCom was our
carrier, but have used mMode only recently.
I bought a data cable to attach my phone to my Sony clie. When it
arrived, I used it to update my AvantGo on my clie (for those of you who
don't know, that's like a browser for your PDA that stores web pages). I
idin't realize it at the time, but the whole update took about 4 MB. I
didn't think much about it until I got the bill. That update (which took
20 minutes or so) cost me $133.00! It's my fault, because I should have
known how much I was paying per KB. Nevertheless, it is really
incredible that ATT is charging this much.
I have not been too enamored with ATT lately, and this really ices the
cake. I need to find a way to get out of my contract so I can change to
another carrier. Any ideas?
Dan W. - 25 Sep 2003 19:54 GMT
You might try getting the hang of either infrared or blue tooth. Your
first month of mMode is free (not including overages) so you should sign
up for the largest plan first, to let you play with it and get
everything set up, then switch to a lower plan your second month.

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wtm2015@yahoo.com (WIlliam McGowin) wrote in article
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> I recently got ATT mMode (the GSM service). I have been a long time ATT
> wireless customer, going all the way back to when SunCom was our
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Todd Allcock - 26 Sep 2003 04:29 GMT
> You might try getting the hang of either infrared or blue tooth.
That wouldn't have made any difference- Avantgo is a web
"clipping" service for PDAs. Every day you connect and your
favorite web sites are downloaded to your PDA x# of links
deep (you specify the depth.) My account downloads over
2MB a day to my PocketPC. Of course I don't do it over my
wireless phone! Data cable, bluetooth or IR, a meg's a meg!
> Your
> first month of mMode is free (not including overages) so you should sign
> up for the largest plan first, to let you play with it and get
> everything set up, then switch to a lower plan your second month.
I suspect our OP won't be using Avantgo over mMode again!
Doug - 27 Sep 2003 04:47 GMT
>That wouldn't have made any difference- Avantgo is a web
>"clipping" service for PDAs. Every day you connect and your
>favorite web sites are downloaded to your PDA x# of links
>deep (you specify the depth.) My account downloads over
>2MB a day to my PocketPC. Of course I don't do it over my
You need T-Mo's $9.99/mo unlimited plan.
Doug
dan allen - 25 Sep 2003 21:57 GMT
Yea, make up some really outragous story saying stuff about the
equipment/service and they should let you out of your contract, once you
sign up with another carrier it will all happen again and you will
screwed twice as hard, the grass isnt always greener on the other side,
good luck with your new cell service and horrible service/customer
service
wtm2015@yahoo.com (WIlliam McGowin) wrote in article
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> I recently got ATT mMode (the GSM service). I have been a long time ATT
> wireless customer, going all the way back to when SunCom was our
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Chewie Chewbacca - 25 Sep 2003 23:30 GMT
no you will not get out of your contract for this, have fun though!!!
have lots of fun!!!
lol
the Chew
danallen@hotmail.com (dan allen) wrote in article
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> Yea, make up some really outragous story saying stuff about the
> equipment/service and they should let you out of your contract, once you
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Alex Mikey - 26 Sep 2003 05:21 GMT
You ain't getting out of your contract, unless you've got 175.00 burning
a hole in your pocket. AT&T Wireless is anal about contracts, if you've
got one, they've got you by the balls, and they really like balls.
Dan W. - 26 Sep 2003 06:21 GMT
You are 100% correct!
However they did have that little "grace period" last year when they
allowed everyone out of their contracts. That was unusual though.

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cplginn@hotmail.com (Alex Mikey) wrote in article
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> You ain't getting out of your contract, unless you've got 175.00 burning
> a hole in your pocket. AT&T Wireless is anal about contracts, if you've
> got one, they've got you by the balls, and they really like balls.
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Tony Clark - 26 Sep 2003 07:40 GMT
They still have a 30 day grace period. You can cancel in that time period.
Hopefully this is enough time for you to determine if the service is
sufficient for your use.
TC
> You are 100% correct!
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WIlliam McGowin - 26 Sep 2003 15:46 GMT
I should know this, but I don't. Are you saying that I can get out of
the contract with a $175.00 penalty? That just might be worth it. ATT
coverage in my area is terrible. Cingular has the best coverage locally
now, and it might be worth my while to switch.
cplginn@hotmail.com (Alex Mikey) wrote in article
<vn7fn63i1pnh57@corp.supernews.com>:
> You ain't getting out of your contract, unless you've got 175.00 burning
> a hole in your pocket. AT&T Wireless is anal about contracts, if you've
> got one, they've got you by the balls, and they really like balls.
>
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Dan W. - 26 Sep 2003 16:14 GMT
If you cancel and are under contract they will charge you the 150-175
fee (Depending on when you signed your contract) and then you are on
your way with no bad marks anywhere. Even if at some point you sign
back up with AT&T, they wont hold it against you=)

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hominid7 "AT" hotmail "DOT" com
wtm2015@yahoo.com (WIlliam McGowin) wrote in article
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> I should know this, but I don't. Are you saying that I can get out of
> the contract with a $175.00 penalty? That just might be worth it. ATT
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Tony Clark - 27 Sep 2003 00:01 GMT
you may also want to consider keeping the contract active depending on how
long you have. You can always change your plan to the cheapest plan
available . If you have less than 7 or 8 months left it's cheaper to go with
the lowest cost plan ($19.99).
TC
> If you cancel and are under contract they will charge you the 150-175
> fee (Depending on when you signed your contract) and then you are on
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A transfinite number of monkeys - 26 Sep 2003 17:27 GMT
: I bought a data cable to attach my phone to my Sony clie. When it
: arrived, I used it to update my AvantGo on my clie (for those of you who
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: cake. I need to find a way to get out of my contract so I can change to
: another carrier. Any ideas?
"Yes, you should let me out of my contract. I've been a loyal customer
since the stone age. I'm mad because I ran up a huge bill, and you
didn't act like my mommy and stop me from doing it!"
Is that something like what you were thinking? Get off it, grow up,
show some backbone and be responsible for your actions.
Dan Albrich - 26 Sep 2003 17:30 GMT
Some carriers support circuit switched data, and those that do tend not to
charge for it. When I was with T-Mobile a few years ago, I could dial in to
my ISP and just use minutes (9600 baud). I'm currently with Verizon, and
they allow 14.4K connections as just uses minutes. I've been told Sprint
allows the same. In other words, there is at least 3 major carriers that
allow "free" access to their low-speed data. The "free" comes from having
unlimited nights and weekend minutes-- so any service that uses minutes
truly doesn't cost you if you don't mind using it off-peak.
The slowness of the data isn't a problem for me, as what I'm trying to
access isn't huge and the data access is more or less a convenience (check
email from the road with SSH etc). I have a palm phone (Kyocera 6035) and
it can dial in via PPP and get avantgo content etc. and just uses minutes.
Anyway, this was one of the key appealing things for Verizon when I switched
from AT&T a few years ago.
Verizon has recently stopped advertising this free data service which is a
bad sign. They also added, then later removed 50% of the geographic
coverage in my home state of Oregon from their America's Choice plan. All
this while I'm under contract. Since both Verizon's and AT&T's coverage in
Oregon depends heavily on roaming partners, the network plans are a bad idea
here. (It's either not included, or if it is now, it can be taken away
without notice).
-Dan
PS: There is some risk that each of the carriers mentioned above could take
away this feature at any time to force users to buy their premium data
services. To my knowledge, that hasn't happened yet, but it's an issue
worthy of consideration.
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Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
http://cell.uoregon.edu
> I recently got ATT mMode (the GSM service). I have been a long time ATT
> wireless customer, going all the way back to when SunCom was our
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Tony Clark - 26 Sep 2003 21:12 GMT
There is also T-Mobile's all-you-can-eat GPRS plan at $19.95/mo. ATT needs
an a-y-c-e plan too, IMHO. The rate they are currently charging very few
people will sign up for as it's too costly. Maybe that's OK with them, who
knows?
TC
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Dan Albrich - 26 Sep 2003 21:37 GMT
Yes, I agree that the current prices for "high speed" data aren't very good
for individual use. If your employer pays your bill and wants you to have
data access on the road, then the current pricing scheme may make sense.
The other issue that comes to mind is that its a limited resource so they
probably cannot afford to have it become super-popular and maintain the same
level of quality.
I wish AT&T supported circuit switched 14.4K data for the casual user who
doesn't want to pay, but enjoys limited access to data. In my mind this
option addresses the needs of everyone involved given that the business
users don't mind paying for the best available.
-Dan
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Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
http://cell.uoregon.edu
> There is also T-Mobile's all-you-can-eat GPRS plan at $19.95/mo. ATT needs
> an a-y-c-e plan too, IMHO. The rate they are currently charging very few
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Group Special Mobile - 27 Sep 2003 00:38 GMT
>I wish AT&T supported circuit switched 14.4K data for the casual user who
>doesn't want to pay, but enjoys limited access to data. In my mind this
>option addresses the needs of everyone involved given that the business
>users don't mind paying for the best available.
Circuit switched data is only 9.6K not 14.4.
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