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AT&T lies to press; still can't activate GSM phones

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Open Wound - 16 Nov 2003 17:53 GMT
According to this story:
  http://news.com.com/2100-1039_3-5107746.html
AT&T says: "We have cleared out a lot of backlog that had accumulated, and
we are serving customers at near-normal levels".

That's strange because I have been calling 1-866-772-5413 for more than
2 weeks now, and each day a recorded message tells me that "in order to
improve customer service" they are "upgrading" their computer system and
I should call back "tomorrow".

Is this what they are calling "near-normal levels"?

Anyone can call 1-866-772-5413 and press 1, 1 (to try to activate a GSM
phone) and confirm that AT&T is lying.

(Sometimes you also get a message saying that "due to heavy call volume
the wait is longer than 20 minutes".)
Ken - 16 Nov 2003 20:40 GMT
Hmmm ... worked fine for me.

K

> According to this story:
>    http://news.com.com/2100-1039_3-5107746.html
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> (Sometimes you also get a message saying that "due to heavy call volume
> the wait is longer than 20 minutes".)
Joel Horner - 17 Nov 2003 05:19 GMT
> Hmmm ... worked fine for me.
>
> K

It could be on an area-by-area basis. It's quite conceivable that they
are using ANI to locate the "source" of a call and routing based on that
information.

 Joel
shawnb - 16 Nov 2003 22:10 GMT
AT&T has been able to activate new GSM lines and migrate TDMA customers to
GSM for a week.  Granted, at times the system is very slow but it still
works.  Why don't you try going to a retail store?

> According to this story:
>    http://news.com.com/2100-1039_3-5107746.html
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> (Sometimes you also get a message saying that "due to heavy call volume
> the wait is longer than 20 minutes".)
Dan W. - 17 Nov 2003 05:29 GMT
> AT&T has been able to activate new GSM lines and migrate TDMA customers to
> GSM for a week.  Granted, at times the system is very slow but it still
> works.  Why don't you try going to a retail store?

As of 11-15-2003 5pm CST my local AT&T corporate store could not do
GSM activations/migrations.  So i think the origional poster is
correct, problems were still being had as recent as yesterday (sat).
Kenneth Linger - 18 Nov 2003 02:20 GMT
Here's the scoop:

They can, but there is a huge backlog and their system keeps going down
"for maintenance" periodically.

I purchased a phone on 11/4, received it on 11/11, and couldn't
activate it until this past weekend.  Each time I called, they were
down "in order to improve their service and customer support".
Eventually, the message changed from "call back later <click>" to "at
this time, we cannot activate anything... please hold."  When I got
through to an agent, he said that the systems were again down but that
they now have an entire department setup to call people back for their
activations and they aren't taking any inbound calls so as soon as its
up again, someone will call me withing 72 hours (he said business hours
which translates to almost two weeks but I think he meant 3 days).

Anyway, they called me back about 3 hours later that day (Saturday) and
got it switched over.  The GSM phone was actively working within 5
minutes of disconnecting the callback.

So, those who say it is up, you are correct.

For those who say that they still can't get through, you are correct.

For those who say that they get through but they were told to try again
tomorrow, you are correct.

Just keep trying.  I'm glad my switch was just for an upgrade to GSM
from TDMA.  I feel bad for those of you waiting to activate replacement
phones.

Ken Linger

> AT&T has been able to activate new GSM lines and migrate TDMA customers to
> GSM for a week.  Granted, at times the system is very slow but it still
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> > (Sometimes you also get a message saying that "due to heavy call volume
> > the wait is longer than 20 minutes".)
John S. - 18 Nov 2003 09:30 GMT
>I'm glad my switch was just for an upgrade to GSM
>from TDMA.

Why do you feel that it is an upgrade? It is simply a change!

Their Data offerings are about the only difference.

Oh yeah, and poorer coverage with GSM. Are you sure that you didn't mean
downgrade to GSM?

--
John S.
e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
Pmatt - 18 Nov 2003 15:38 GMT
> Oh yeah, and poorer coverage with GSM. Are you sure that you didn't mean
> downgrade to GSM?

You can say that again. I just switched from GSM back to TDMA -- now
*that's* an upgrade!
Kenneth Linger - 19 Nov 2003 05:19 GMT
Perhaps you are correct.  I'll call it a side-grade.  I lapsed into
their terminology without even noticing.  However, I do find that I am
having clearer conversations in my home area (Phoenix) with GSM but I
do miss the "anything goes roaming" policy with the TDMA One Rate.  Big
cities are working fine but the remote areas I typically travel to
(upstate NY, very upstate MN and anywhere in ND and SD).

I could care less about cameras, games, or having the Star Spangled
Banner play every time I get a new call (although, wouldn't everyone in
the meeting have to stand up?).

Ken

> >I'm glad my switch was just for an upgrade to GSM
> >from TDMA.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> John S.
> e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
Pmatt - 17 Nov 2003 02:14 GMT
I was able to de-activate my GSM account, and switch back to TDMA on Friday.

> According to this story:
>    http://news.com.com/2100-1039_3-5107746.html
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> (Sometimes you also get a message saying that "due to heavy call volume
> the wait is longer than 20 minutes".)
Jeffsnewjetta - 17 Nov 2003 04:35 GMT
i went to a store and was told only TDMA is activating.

>Subject: AT&T lies to press; still can't activate GSM phones
>From: openwound5000@aol.com  (Open Wound)
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>(Sometimes you also get a message saying that "due to heavy call volume
>the wait is longer than 20 minutes".)

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