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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / ATT Wireless / November 2003Coverage in Southern California
Happy Portability Day! Well, after a long battle with AT&T and getting them to break my contract due to a) coverage and b) the lack of support available to all GSM customers since Nov 1, I have finally one and they have voided my contract term. They admited that they didn't live up to their side. Funny enough, a corporate sales rep that I talked to also completed trashed their coverage in Southern California. She completely agreed with me, as she had to switch to a TDMA phone when she was stuck down here on Business for almost a month. Anyhow, that's my long story short. Now my question: How is the current coverage of TMobile in SoCal these days? Specifically, I am interested in the 405 south all the way through to OC/Irvine. Then, if anyone has experience in the South Bay, that would be awsome! Initial tests confirmed a much more solid network. And yes, I know they are technically using most of Cingular's towers out here, but I have an issue with some of Cingular's pricing policies (i.e., paying for landline access to voicemail). I don't know about T-Mobile, but personally, I have used Cingular since 1998, ever since they were known as PacBell Wireless, and I have had great coverage along the 405 freeway. My commute was from MDR all the way down to Laguna. You might want to make sure and check if T-Mobile has a roaming contract with Cingular along that route. > Happy Portability Day! > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > out here, but I have an issue with some of Cingular's pricing policies > (i.e., paying for landline access to voicemail). >I don't know about T-Mobile, but personally, I have used Cingular since >1998, ever since they were known as PacBell Wireless, and I have had great [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >You might want to make sure and check if T-Mobile has a roaming contract >with Cingular along that route. Oh, they have much more than that - T-Mobile has zero spectrum in California, and they're actually a "VMNO" (Virtual Mobile Network Operator) using...you guessed it...the Cingular network to provide service! So...T-Mobile coverage = Cingular coverage in that part of the world. I believe the situation is reversed in the New York City area, where Cingular rides on T-Mobile's towers. Mike Totally incorrect. T-Mob owns spectrum in CA (20Mhz in most markets), which they contributed to the Joint Venture (50% each) for NY Metro and All of the SFO &LAX MTA's. They also own 20Mhz in Reno, and 25 Mhz in Vegas. If the partnership is broken, both walk with what they contributed. Drew > >I don't know about T-Mobile, but personally, I have used Cingular since > >1998, ever since they were known as PacBell Wireless, and I have had great [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Mike The TMo coverage in SoCal is pretty good. I had no problems going few times from Marina Del Rey to San Diego and I had coverage even in the military area in between. As far as I know TMo has free roaming with Cingular and AT&T, so you should be able to use their towers as well, if TMo has no service somewhere. >Happy Portability Day! > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >out here, but I have an issue with some of Cingular's pricing policies >(i.e., paying for landline access to voicemail). >The TMo coverage in SoCal is pretty good. I had no problems going few >times from Marina Del Rey to San Diego and I had coverage even in the >military area in between. As far as I know TMo has free roaming with >Cingular and AT&T, so you should be able to use their towers as well, >if TMo has no service somewhere. Coverage along freeways, including 405, is excellent. But YMMV, so go for a trial. For instance, coverage where I live, Playa Del Rey (between Marina Del Rey and airport), is poor in some areas, including around the block where I live. There is no signal whatsoever inside my home. -- Marcio Watanabe >>The TMo coverage in SoCal is pretty good. I had no problems going few >>times from Marina Del Rey to San Diego and I had coverage even in the >>military area in between. As far as I know TMo has free roaming with >>Cingular and AT&T, so you should be able to use their towers as well, >>if TMo has no service somewhere. The TM/AT&T roaming agreement only covers very specific territories and is not territory-wide. >>>The TMo coverage in SoCal is pretty good. I had no problems going few >>>times from Marina Del Rey to San Diego and I had coverage even in the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >The TM/AT&T roaming agreement only covers very specific territories >and is not territory-wide. Not only that, as mentioned, T-Mobile doesn't actually have any towers in California...they are "riding" as a virtual operator on the existing Cingular network. It's part of a deal they came up with a couple of years ago...and in New York City, Cingular uses T-Mobile's towers. Mike >>>>The TMo coverage in SoCal is pretty good. I had no problems going few >>>>times from Marina Del Rey to San Diego and I had coverage even in the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >couple of years ago...and in New York City, Cingular uses T-Mobile's >towers. Yes, I'm in NYC, so I'm aware. But that's a separate issue from the AT&T roaming agreement. One more thing - having a good phone will help a lot. I have Nokia 3650 which has great reception and is working where most other phones do not. >The TMo coverage in SoCal is pretty good. I had no problems going few >times from Marina Del Rey to San Diego and I had coverage even in the [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >>out here, but I have an issue with some of Cingular's pricing policies >>(i.e., paying for landline access to voicemail). In Southern California (Los Angeles) T-Mo is piggybacked on Ching-chingular. Chingular SUCKS in los angeles. Its a "freeway phone". If your on the freeway, it might work. Will NOT work inside most buildings. I use Verizon's CDMA service in Los Angeles, while NOT the cheapest IT WORKS!....Eddie > Happy Portability Day! > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > out here, but I have an issue with some of Cingular's pricing policies > (i.e., paying for landline access to voicemail). I work construction in Southern California and move around to jobsites alot ( Santa Barbra to San Diego ) I was with ATT TDMA for 4 years and GSM the last one and your right the GMS coverage in the worst. I have been trying out a friends Verizon phone for the past 2 weeks and the coverage is very good and I think that I will be making the switch. To me it's worth paying a extra 10 dollars a month to have the coverage > Happy Portability Day! > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > out here, but I have an issue with some of Cingular's pricing policies > (i.e., paying for landline access to voicemail). Thanks for the info Pete, thats what I have been saying about ATT's worthless coverage in Southern Calif. Verizon is NOT the cheapest in Southern California....but Damn-it...IT WORKS!.....Eddie > I work construction in Southern California and move around to jobsites alot > ( Santa Barbra to San Diego ) I was with ATT TDMA for 4 years and GSM the [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > out here, but I have an issue with some of Cingular's pricing policies > > (i.e., paying for landline access to voicemail). |
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