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Dual Mode GSM/CDMA handset

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thegoons - 12 Feb 2004 10:31 GMT
How hard can it be?
VK3XEM - 12 Feb 2004 12:01 GMT
Not hard at all, but how big would the market be?

If it's only Australia it probably won't happen.

73 de Simon, VK3XEM.

> How hard can it be?
Charlie Wong - 12 Feb 2004 13:18 GMT
>Not hard at all, but how big would the market be?

Very hard though currently being trialled in China.
Rod Speed - 12 Feb 2004 20:36 GMT
>> Not hard at all, but how big would the market be?

> Very hard

Completely clueless. Typical cow.

> though currently being trialled in China.
ctr - 13 Feb 2004 00:16 GMT
> >Not hard at all, but how big would the market be?
>
> Very hard though currently being trialled in China.

Not hard at all - there has been an integrated chipset available for
this for a while : http://www.cdmatech.com/solutions/products/msm6550_chipset_solution.jsp

As to the market - who knows.
Anon Amous - 29 Feb 2004 10:56 GMT
OK but how difficult would it be to actually integrate it into a design?.
Could you do it?.

> > >Not hard at all, but how big would the market be?
> >
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> As to the market - who knows.
ctr - 01 Mar 2004 01:46 GMT
> OK but how difficult would it be to actually integrate it into a design?.
> Could you do it?.

Its not that hard actually - qualcomm provide a stack of stuff to ease
the job - and charge like a wounded bull for it
The Family - 13 Feb 2004 10:26 GMT
Available in Hong Kong under the "Nokia" brandname.

> How hard can it be?
my_nokia_6600@hotmail.com - 14 Feb 2004 05:54 GMT
WCDMA + GSM=g3...  u wouldnt want cdma (except for coverage)

a cdma/gsm will never happen (EVER) as only telstra (and optus through
licencing agrement) can use both (coverage and billing) but in relaity only
telstra ever could, and they wont. ever..

T have ug to x1cdma, gsm have edge to upgrade to but in relaity wcdma+gsm is
the future for g3 and dual mode handsets.

its supported and being trieled and accepted world wide.

u can compain but wont make an aounce of difference. these are the facts,
just accept them without question and move on...  Now g4 thats another
question.

> How hard can it be?
thomo - 14 Feb 2004 07:54 GMT
Third generation (3G) mobile phone systems meet the fast & wide-band data
standards set by the ITU (International Telecommunications Union). The two
major implementations are UTMS (also called W-CDMA & used mainly as an
upgrade for GSM systems) and CDMA2000 1xEV-DO (used as an upgrade for CDMA
systems). It is generally thought UTMS will dominate but CDMA2000 may take
off in the US & provide a continuing divergence.

Telstra will probably have it both ways here. Maybe new electronics will
allow for multiple simultaneous signals sometime soon & we can all have
every standard.

> WCDMA + GSM=g3...  u wouldnt want cdma (except for coverage)
>
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> > How hard can it be?
thegoons - 15 Feb 2004 01:16 GMT
One thought that the best of both worlds as far as coverage might be a
selling point, and considering that all the base station hardware is there
already.

Some Telcos are a bit slow to realise that poofy video phones and data crap
is still such a small market segment. Voice calls and coverage are what
consumers want most. One only needs to look at "3" to see what a mistake it
is to leap ahead with technology when consumers don't want it!

> WCDMA + GSM=g3...  u wouldnt want cdma (except for coverage)
>
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>
> > How hard can it be?
Rod Speed - 15 Feb 2004 01:31 GMT
> One thought that the best of both worlds as far
> as coverage might be a selling point, and considering
> that all the base station hardware is there already.

> Some Telcos are a bit slow to realise that poofy video
> phones and data crap is still such a small market segment.
> Voice calls and coverage are what consumers want most.

Voice calls and SMS, yes. Coverage, nope, not most consumers
now that the coverage is perfectly adequate for most now. There
arent all that many that want or need the purported extra coverage
that a handset that can do GSM and CDMA could provide. There
are a few, but its a surprisingly small market now in this country.
Mainly those who spend quite a bit of time where CDMA coverage
is better than GSM and in the capital citys where in building
CDMA coverage isnt as good as with GSM.

> One only needs to look at "3" to see what a mistake it is to
> leap ahead with technology when consumers don't want it!

Sure, but thats not really relevant to the question of whether
there is much of a market for a dual GSM/CDMA handset now.

> > WCDMA + GSM=g3...  u wouldnt want cdma (except for coverage)
> >
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> >
> > > How hard can it be?
Michael - 15 Feb 2004 02:56 GMT
> WCDMA + GSM=g3...  u wouldnt want cdma (except for coverage)
>
> a cdma/gsm will never happen (EVER) as only telstra (and optus through
> licencing agrement) can use both (coverage and billing) but in relaity only
> telstra ever could, and they wont. ever..

You dont need to have the same company operatng the GSM and CDMA net
Same concept as a dual SIM attachment
 
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