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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / March 2004Mobile network prefixes (04xx)?
Notwithstanding the ravages of MNP, can anyone point me to an up-to-date list of the various 04xx mobile prefixes and their network of birth? Hint: The ACA website's claim "The Register of Allocated Numbers at www.aca.gov.au/pls/numb/ provides a list of digital mobile number prefixes and the carriage service providers to whom they have been allocated." is a crock. > Notwithstanding the ravages of MNP, can anyone point me to an up-to-date > list of the various 04xx mobile prefixes and their network of birth? Dont believe that there is one apart from the ACA site. http://www.ianp.net/mobnum.htm is clearly out of date. > Hint: The ACA website's claim "The Register of Allocated > Numbers at www.aca.gov.au/pls/numb/ provides a list of > digital mobile number prefixes and the carriage service > providers to whom they have been allocated." is a crock. Nope, just a lousy user interface. Just put 040 and 049 in the top two range boxes and you'll see them all. > > Notwithstanding the ravages of MNP, can anyone point me to an up-to-date > > list of the various 04xx mobile prefixes and their network of birth? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Nope, just a lousy user interface. Just put 040 and > 049 in the top two range boxes and you'll see them all. Or 0400 000 000 - 0499 999 999 > > > Notwithstanding the ravages of MNP, can anyone point me to an up-to-date > > > list of the various 04xx mobile prefixes and their network of birth? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Or 0400 000 000 - 0499 999 999 No need. Try it and you'll find that makes no difference to the results you get. > > > > Hint: The ACA website's claim "The Register of Allocated > > > > Numbers at www.aca.gov.au/pls/numb/ provides a list of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > No need. Try it and you'll find that makes no difference to the results you get. I wont bother to try. I dont doubt your statement >> Notwithstanding the ravages of MNP, can anyone point me to an up-to-date >> list of the various 04xx mobile prefixes and their network of birth? > >Dont believe that there is one apart from the ACA site. I was afeared of that. >http://www.ianp.net/mobnum.htm is clearly out of date. Indeed it is. >> Hint: The ACA website's claim "The Register of Allocated >> Numbers at www.aca.gov.au/pls/numb/ provides a list of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Nope, just a lousy user interface. Just put 040 and >049 in the top two range boxes and you'll see them all. I tried o400 and 0439 and (maybe a mistake) selected Optarse lower down. All i got was 0423 range. Will go try that #@$%^ interface again. > >> Notwithstanding the ravages of MNP, can anyone point me to an up-to-date > >> list of the various 04xx mobile prefixes and their network of birth? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > I tried o400 and 0439 and (maybe a mistake) selected Optarse lower down. That's where you stuffed up due to the lousy user interface. > All i got was 0423 range. > Will go try that #@$%^ interface again. Yeah, its a piece of sh.t. >> >> Notwithstanding the ravages of MNP, can anyone point me to an up-to-date >> >> list of the various 04xx mobile prefixes and their network of birth? [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >That's where you stuffed up due to the lousy user interface. Seems so. >> All i got was 0423 range. > >> Will go try that #@$%^ interface again. > >Yeah, its a piece of sh.t. Not joking. It still shows ranges such as 0400 being One.Tel - is it also chronically out of date, or is this range still paid up and held in their name? Also, does anyone know the (significance of) the difference between: . Singtel Optus Ltd . Optus Networks P/L . Optus Mobile P/L and (finally) which of these is the "range-holder" of their CDMA resale operations? > >> Will go try that #@$%^ interface again. > > > >Yeah, its a piece of sh.t. > > Not joking. It still shows ranges such as 0400 being One.Tel - is it also > chronically out of date, or is this range still paid up and held in their name? It shows the original owner of the prefixes. There used to be a spreadsheet showing "permanently transferred numbers" and the 0400 was in there, marked as permanently xfer'ed from OneTel to Telstra > Also, does anyone know the (significance of) the difference between: > . Singtel Optus Ltd > . Optus Networks P/L > . Optus Mobile P/L They are all Optus. Just depends which sub-company of Optus was allocated the range in the first instance > and (finally) which of these is the "range-holder" of their CDMA resale > operations? Telstra are allocated CDMA numbers. Most CDMA resale, if not all, resells Telstra CDMA Orange have CDMA but I dont know of anyone reselling it > > >> Will go try that #@$%^ interface again. > > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > There used to be a spreadsheet showing "permanently transferred numbers" and > the 0400 was in there, marked as permanently xfer'ed from OneTel to Telstra And here it is, btw, http://www.aca.gov.au/telcomm/telephone_numbering/8_digit_numbering/transfer.xls Some gutless pov/druggy/child desperately cowering behind just the puerile sh.t you'd expect from a gutless pov/druggy/child. >> >> Will go try that #@$%^ interface again. >> > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >Telstra are allocated CDMA numbers. Most CDMA resale, if not all, resells >Telstra CDMA Appreciate that. The question is really ... When Optarse - reselling Tel$tra CDMA - allocate a number for a "new sub", which range(s) will it be selected from? >Orange have CDMA but I dont know of anyone reselling it Orange don't even sell to ppl outside Sydbourne, so that's pretty academic. > >> >> Will go try that #@$%^ interface again. > >> > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > When Optarse - reselling Tel$tra CDMA - allocate a number for a "new sub", which > range(s) will it be selected from? Thats between Telstra and Optarse basically, just like it is with the slut and Optarse. >> Orange have CDMA but I dont know of anyone reselling it > Orange don't even sell to ppl outside Sydbourne, so that's pretty academic. Sure, but there are other resellers of Telstra CDMA and they dont show up in either table. > >Telstra are allocated CDMA numbers. Most CDMA resale, if not all, resells > >Telstra CDMA [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > When Optarse - reselling Tel$tra CDMA - allocate a number for a "new sub", which > range(s) will it be selected from? All ranges available to them. Just comes from Telstras GENeral number pool > >Orange have CDMA but I dont know of anyone reselling it > > Orange don't even sell to ppl outside Sydbourne, so that's pretty academic. They sell to Melbourne, Geelong, Newcastle, Woolongong etc ect > >> >> Notwithstanding the ravages of MNP, can anyone point me to an up-to-date > >> >> list of the various 04xx mobile prefixes and their network of birth? [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > >Yeah, its a piece of sh.t. > Not joking. It still shows ranges such as 0400 > being One.Tel - is it also chronically out of date, Nope. Thats just a list of the original allocation. At the bottom of that form it says 'You can also check the register of numbers which have been permanently transferred (file provided in MS Excel format - 60 kb)' That shows the 0400 range having been permanently transferred to Telstra. > or is this range still paid up and held in their name? Nope. > Also, does anyone know the (significance of) the difference between: > . Singtel Optus Ltd > . Optus Networks P/L > . Optus Mobile P/L None, thats just the variations in what they have called themselves. Most of those are shown in the spreadsheet too. > and (finally) which of these is the "range-holder" > of their CDMA resale operations? Resellers dont get listed there. There is no entry for the slut or Southern Cross for example. > > Also, does anyone know the (significance of) the difference between: > > . Singtel Optus Ltd [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Resellers dont get listed there. There is no > entry for the slut or Southern Cross for example. Its rather interesting in regards to the permanently transferred numbers spreadsheet. At one stage it used to show the permanent transfer of numbers from Optus to Virgin, Optus to Dingo Blue, Optus to RSL.Com, but its now changed and all it does is show the shuffling of numbers b/w the various optus entities Always works ok for me I have a spreadsheet of the prefixes anyway (compiled from ACA site) > Dont believe that there is one apart from the ACA site. > http://www.ianp.net/mobnum.htm is clearly out of date. That is actually one of my pages, shall updated if as it has been found and people actually refer to it :) Give me about an hour :) >> Dont believe that there is one apart from the ACA site. >> http://www.ianp.net/mobnum.htm is clearly out of date. > That is actually one of my pages, shall updated if > as it has been found and people actually refer to it :) > Give me about an hour :) Pity the ACA isnt so responsive |-( > >> Dont believe that there is one apart from the ACA site. > >> http://www.ianp.net/mobnum.htm is clearly out of date. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Pity the ACA isnt so responsive |-( Whats wrong with the ACA's responsiveness? > > >> Dont believe that there is one apart from the ACA site. > > >> http://www.ianp.net/mobnum.htm is clearly out of date. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Whats wrong with the ACA's responsiveness? Nothing like as quick as that with out of date web site info. > Notwithstanding the ravages of MNP, can anyone point me to an up-to-date list of > the various 04xx mobile prefixes and their network of birth? > > Hint: The ACA website's claim "The Register of Allocated Numbers at > www.aca.gov.au/pls/numb/ provides a list of digital mobile number prefixes and > the carriage service providers to whom they have been allocated." is a crock. Its absolutely perfect. It shows where all numbers originate from (network of birth). >> Notwithstanding the ravages of MNP, can anyone point me to an up-to-date >list of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Its absolutely perfect. Yeah, right, sure .... (muses - bloody good thing Ellis doesn't design web interfaces then) >It shows where all numbers originate from (network of birth). Wasn't able to get more than one 04xx set on any masking I tried. > Wasn't able to get more than one 04xx set on any masking I tried. put the From prefix as 040. and the To prefix as 049. That's it. Worked for the rest of us. -mark > > Wasn't able to get more than one 04xx set on any masking I tried. > > put the From prefix as 040. and the To prefix as 049. That's it. > > Worked for the rest of us. Stupid screeching budgie > -mark > >Its absolutely perfect. > > Yeah, right, sure .... (muses - bloody good thing Ellis doesn't design web > interfaces then) In previous post you admitted your errors. Ive never had any difficulty getting every single number range out that I wanted > >It shows where all numbers originate from (network of birth). > > Wasn't able to get more than one 04xx set on any masking I tried. In previous post you admitted your errors. Ive never had any difficulty getting every single number range out that I wanted >> >Its absolutely perfect. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >In previous post you admitted your errors. I was after only Optarse range. A half-decent interface would accept 0400/0439/select_owner and give coherent results. >Ive never had any difficulty getting every single number range out that I >wanted Bully for you. >> >It shows where all numbers originate from (network of birth). >> >> Wasn't able to get more than one 04xx set on any masking I tried. > >In previous post you admitted your errors. My only error was in assuming the interface was able to accept user selections and process the request sensibly. Silly me. >Ive never had any difficulty getting every single number range out that I >wanted Even more bully for you. > >> >Its absolutely perfect. > >> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > My only error was in assuming the interface was able to accept > user selections and process the request sensibly. Silly me. That does work fine as long as you notice that there are 3 separate entrys for Optarse in the Organisation field. > >> >Its absolutely perfect. > >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I was after only Optarse range. A half-decent interface would accept > 0400/0439/select_owner and give coherent results. It does. Put in 040 - 049, select whichever Optus entity you want results on (SingTel / Opt Mob or Opt Net) and out come your results > >Ive never had any difficulty getting every single number range out that I > >wanted [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > My only error was in assuming the interface was able to accept user selections > and process the request sensibly. Silly me. Blame Optus, not yourself. They chose to f*ck about by having three diff parts of their entity owning the numbers > >Ive never had any difficulty getting every single number range out that I > >wanted > > Even more bully for you. |
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