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Bax - 04 Apr 2004 09:03 GMT
Seems Orange is the first to launch the new Nokia 3105 CDMA phone. The ad
appeared in todays Sunday Telegraph page 35

Bax
J Doe - 04 Apr 2004 11:18 GMT
> Seems Orange is the first to launch the new Nokia 3105 CDMA phone. The ad
> appeared in todays Sunday Telegraph page 35
>
> Bax

Who else did u expect to launch it really ?
Charlie Wong - 04 Apr 2004 14:41 GMT
>Who else did u expect to launch it really ?

Telstra CDMA perhaps?
Giles - 05 Apr 2004 00:24 GMT
> >Who else did u expect to launch it really ?
>
> Telstra CDMA perhaps?

Apparently overdue for release by Telstra; still in testing.
Charlie Wong - 05 Apr 2004 01:45 GMT
>Apparently overdue for release by Telstra; still in testing.

Telstra is still testing?

Telstra would not have allowed Orange to release it (the phone) if it
wasn't suitable for use on the Telstra CDMA network. Remember, Orange
roams on to Telstra CDMA outside Orange licence areas.

More like release of the phone has been slowed in the bureaucracy that
is Telstra.
Rod Speed - 05 Apr 2004 04:26 GMT
>> Apparently overdue for release by Telstra; still in testing.

> Telstra is still testing?

> Telstra would not have allowed Orange to release it (the phone)
> if it wasn't suitable for use on the Telstra CDMA network.

More utterly mindless bovine sh.t.

> Remember, Orange roams on to Telstra
> CDMA outside Orange licence areas.

> More like release of the phone has been
> slowed in the bureaucracy that is Telstra.

MUCH more like Hutchison didnt bother to even ask Telstra.
streetwise - 05 Apr 2004 05:24 GMT
bovine, I like that!

| >> Apparently overdue for release by Telstra; still in testing.
|
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
|
| MUCH more like Hutchison didnt bother to even ask Telstra.
Charlie Wong - 05 Apr 2004 07:58 GMT
>MUCH more like Hutchison didnt bother to even ask Telstra.

Telstra would have pulled the the plug on the roaming agreement in a
flash if what you're suggesting is true.
Giles - 05 Apr 2004 11:50 GMT
> >MUCH more like Hutchison didnt bother to even ask Telstra.
>
> Telstra would have pulled the the plug on the roaming agreement in a
> flash if what you're suggesting is true.

Dunno about that Robert - there's any number of dodgy overseas operations
that Telstra will allow to roam in Oz, and Telstra wouldn't vet all the
handsets *they* sell.  Not even the handsets the tourists bring to
Australia.

I'd even suspect the number of international roamers on Telstra GSM would
outweigh the number of Orange roamers on Telstra CDMA!
Charlie Wong - 05 Apr 2004 12:35 GMT
>I'd even suspect the number of international roamers on Telstra GSM would
>outweigh the number of Orange roamers on Telstra CDMA!

Would be very difficult for Telstra to take action against an
individual that just roams here as opposed to a company breaching a
contractual agreement here in Australia.

Remember, Telstra tries to kill the competition. They don't try and
kill people from using its network.
Giles - 05 Apr 2004 12:50 GMT
> Would be very difficult for Telstra to take action against an
> individual that just roams here as opposed to a company breaching a
> contractual agreement here in Australia.
>
> Remember, Telstra tries to kill the competition. They don't try and
> kill people from using its network.

Fair enough - you're right that it would be pretty cumbersome to police
international roamers.

But I think the point of Telstra's lengthy testing is to pre-empt bugs that
might cause disruption to *their* customers.  If an Orange customer called
125111 saying they were having trouble roaming to Telstra, I'm sure the CSR
would tell them to shove it.
Charlie Wong - 05 Apr 2004 14:29 GMT
>But I think the point of Telstra's lengthy testing is to pre-empt bugs that
>might cause disruption to *their* customers.  If an Orange customer called
>125111 saying they were having trouble roaming to Telstra, I'm sure the CSR
>would tell them to shove it.

And rightly so, the customer belongs to Orange and is Orange's
responsibility.
Rod Speed - 05 Apr 2004 19:42 GMT
>> But I think the point of Telstra's lengthy testing is to pre-empt bugs
>> that might cause disruption to *their* customers.  If an Orange
>> customer called 125111 saying they were having trouble roaming
>> to Telstra, I'm sure the CSR would tell them to shove it.

> And rightly so, the customer belongs to
> Orange and is Orange's responsibility.

So Telstra wouldnt care if Orange chooses to flog a handset
thats still got some warts in it on the Telstra network, fuckwit.

If Orange started snivelling about problem with that handset
when roaming, they'd just be told that they started flogging
that handset too early and that the problems are their problem.
Charlie Wong - 06 Apr 2004 00:26 GMT
>If Orange started snivelling about problem with that handset
>when roaming, they'd just be told that they started flogging
>that handset too early and that the problems are their problem.

Telstra would be as polite as you are if that handset was causing
problems on its network.
Rod Speed - 06 Apr 2004 06:49 GMT
>> If Orange started snivelling about problem with that handset
>> when roaming, they'd just be told that they started flogging
>> that handset too early and that the problems are their problem.

> Telstra would be as polite as you are if that
> handset was causing problems on its network.

Corse it wouldnt, cretin. The most that might happen is
that Orange customers cant roam without some warts.
Michael - 08 Apr 2004 00:51 GMT
> > Would be very difficult for Telstra to take action against an
> > individual that just roams here as opposed to a company breaching a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Fair enough - you're right that it would be pretty cumbersome to police
> international roamers.

Not really, its dead easy

> But I think the point of Telstra's lengthy testing is to pre-empt bugs that
> might cause disruption to *their* customers.  If an Orange customer called
> 125111 saying they were having trouble roaming to Telstra, I'm sure the CSR
> would tell them to shove it.

Correct. thats oranges problem
Rod Speed - 05 Apr 2004 19:40 GMT
>> I'd even suspect the number of international roamers on Telstra GSM
>> would outweigh the number of Orange roamers on Telstra CDMA!

> Would be very difficult for Telstra to take action against
> an individual that just roams here as opposed to a company
> breaching a contractual agreement here in Australia.

You dont even know whats in the contract, w.nker.

> Remember, Telstra tries to kill the competition.

How odd that they chose to sign 3 up for roaming at all.

They did with one.hell too.

> They don't try and kill people from using its network.

Wota f.cking w.nker.
Michael - 08 Apr 2004 00:51 GMT
> > >MUCH more like Hutchison didnt bother to even ask Telstra.
> >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> I'd even suspect the number of international roamers on Telstra GSM would
> outweigh the number of Orange roamers on Telstra CDMA!

Probably
Rod Speed - 05 Apr 2004 19:38 GMT
>> MUCH more like Hutchison didnt bother to even ask Telstra.

> Telstra would have pulled the the plug on the roaming
> agreement in a flash if what you're suggesting is true.

Complete and utter pig ignorant drivel. As always from the bovine fool.
James Pole - 05 Apr 2004 05:25 GMT
>>>Who else did u expect to launch it really ?
>>
>>Telstra CDMA perhaps?
>
> Apparently overdue for release by Telstra; still in testing.

Geez, they're taking their time testing this phone model. Telecom NZ has
been selling this phone for a few months already.

- James
J Doe - 05 Apr 2004 02:01 GMT
> >Who else did u expect to launch it really ?
>
> Telstra CDMA perhaps?

Perhaps but Orange is more interested in CDMA than telstra for obvious
reasons
Charlie Wong - 04 Apr 2004 14:41 GMT
>Seems Orange is the first to launch the new Nokia 3105 CDMA phone. The ad
>appeared in todays Sunday Telegraph page 35

Been on their web site for a few weeks.
 
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