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Questions re. Orange CDMA

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Graham - 12 Apr 2004 06:54 GMT
I'm toying with the idea of getting the colour Samsung mobile on the
JustGo SMS plan with Orange.  I've got a couple of questions...

The Orange website says there's a limit of 120 characters for sending AND
receiving SMSs.  I can cope with that when sending an SMS, but what does
it mean when a GSM user sends you an SMS of 160 characters?

Most people seem to say the coverage is ok in the suburbs of Melbourne,
and there seem to be a lot of Orange towers in my area.  However, I
remember seeing posts in this newsgroup about problems with in-building
coverage with Orange (or CDMA in general), and someone was saying that
it's difficult to get coverage in high rise buildings.  Can anyone comment
on this?

Apart from this, no problems with SMSs never arriving or incoming calls
going through to voicemail for no reason?  (I read this on Whirlpool once).

Thanks

Graham.
Charlie Wong - 12 Apr 2004 08:02 GMT
>I'm toying with the idea of getting the colour Samsung mobile on the
>JustGo SMS plan with Orange.  I've got a couple of questions...
>
>The Orange website says there's a limit of 120 characters for sending AND
>receiving SMSs.  I can cope with that when sending an SMS, but what does
>it mean when a GSM user sends you an SMS of 160 characters?

See Ask Orange from the Orange web site <http://www.orange.net.au/>

What is a split SMS?
When an Orange mobile customer receives an SMS message of greater
than 120 characters, the message will be split into two SMS messages
and delivered to the customers’ handset. The messages will be numbered
to indicate the first and second half of the message. This ensures
that Orange mobile customers will receive the full SMS message sent to
them by mobile users from other mobile carriers.

Why does Orange split incoming SMS?
The Orange mobile network delivers 120 character SMS messages at a
time. Other mobile networks in Australia work on 160 character SMS
messages. As a result, Orange has implemented a solution to ensure
that Orange Mobile customers will not loose the end of received SMS
messages.

Will I be charged for split SMS?
No. There is no additional charge when receiving additional messages
for a split SMS.

Will the service still apply while national roaming?
Yes.

Will PrePay services receive split SMS messages?
Yes

How do I read a split message?
Split SMS messages will be numbered to indicate the first and second
half of a message. The first half of the message will be numbered (1
of 2) and the second half (2 of 2). To read a message:
i) select the message that starts with [1of2]
ii) scroll through the first message and read as per normal
iii) open the second message [2of2], scroll through and read

Can I now send an SMS message greater than 120 characters?
No. Message splitting applies to inbound SMS messages being sent to an
Orange Mobile customer. Orange mobile customers can send a 120
character SMS message.

How many characters of the incoming message will appear in the first
half of the split SMS message?
Approximately the first 110 characters of an incoming message will
appear in the first half of a split SMS message. The remaining
characters will be taken up by [1 of 2] and the three dots at the end
of the first half of the message. The messages that exceed 120
characters will be "cut" at the end of a word rather than part way
through where the 120 character limit is reached part way through a
word. For example, a message ending with the words "See you
tomorrow….." may have reached the 120 character limit at the O in you.
In this case, the first message will end with "See…" and the second
message will start with "…you tomorrow".  

>Most people seem to say the coverage is ok in the suburbs of Melbourne,
>and there seem to be a lot of Orange towers in my area.  However, I
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>Apart from this, no problems with SMSs never arriving or incoming calls
>going through to voicemail for no reason?  (I read this on Whirlpool once).

I've used Orange from it launched its own CDMA network. They are as
good (or bad) as the rest of them. You certainly can't go past their
rates.
Graham - 12 Apr 2004 08:18 GMT
> I've used Orange from it launched its own CDMA network. They are as
> good (or bad) as the rest of them. You certainly can't go past their
> rates.

I found the SMS bit after posting earlier.  Do you know much about the new
Samsung N361 and the LGC HD 7130?  I wonder if you can customise SMS tones
in them.
Charlie Wong - 12 Apr 2004 08:34 GMT
>I found the SMS bit after posting earlier.  Do you know much about the new
>Samsung N361 and the LGC HD 7130?  I wonder if you can customise SMS tones
>in them.

Sorry, I don't know.
Graham - 13 Apr 2004 11:40 GMT
> I found the SMS bit after posting earlier.  Do you know much about the new
> Samsung N361 and the LGC HD 7130?  I wonder if you can customise SMS tones
> in them.

I signed up with Orange.  I tried the new colour Samsung as well as the
new colour LG.  The Samsung was miles ahead, so I bought that phone.  It's
a very nifty phone; completely different to the old Samsung with the blue
screen.  It's got features that some GSM phones don't have.  The only
annoying thing I've found with it is that name entries in the phone book
are limited to 12 characters, which means you can't always enter people's
surnames in full.  Very surprising considering how nice the rest of the
phone is.  I have an Orange tower on the other side of the road from work,
and one in the next street from my house, so I can't lose with coverage.
It's nice to be free of Telstra and free of a contract for once in my life. ;)

Graham.
Michael - 12 Apr 2004 09:22 GMT
> I'm toying with the idea of getting the colour Samsung mobile on the
> JustGo SMS plan with Orange.  I've got a couple of questions...
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> it's difficult to get coverage in high rise buildings.  Can anyone comment
> on this?

In general CDMA of either Telstra or Orange variety is usually not as strong
indoors. This is because the networks are scarcely populated at the moment,
and thus geographical coverage is the most important point. Over time, with
high user density, new bases will be placed in areas which have an effect of
better inbuilding coverage.

If you work or live in a high rise, check the coverage before buying,
preferably on an actual handset.

> Apart from this, no problems with SMSs never arriving or incoming calls
> going through to voicemail for no reason?  (I read this on Whirlpool once).

Occasionally happens on CDMA when the phone doesnt respond to the page quick
enough. Happens even in a good coverage area.
Telstra have this problem licked with software upgrades, dont know about
Orange
Charlie Wong - 12 Apr 2004 14:26 GMT
>Telstra have this problem licked with software upgrades, dont know about
>Orange

Liar.
 
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