"[-PC HELP-]" <srhardy@hotmail.com> said
> Telstra hikes monthly rent fees
> Michael Sainsbury and Simon Canning
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>
> The rise of about $1.50 a month - from about $26.50 to $28
Big f.cking deal. $1.50 per month. A whole 40c a week.
> - will affect
> customers using more than 10 million phone lines around the country, and
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> Telstra has now raised basic access charges by almost 300 per cent since
> 2000,
Bullshit. Who was getting line rental for under $9 in 2000?
> and has a mandate from the Australian Competition and Consumer
> Commission to push them as high as $32 a month by June 30, 2005.
>
> Now for my 2c worth, seems to me they dont want us to use copper
> anymore, the reason is simple enough they have to share it! New cable
> thats being run out is thiers 100%
What new cable? The HFC rollout stopped about 4 years ago.
> and that they dont have to share with
> anyone (stuff the tax payer who pays for it)
Sorry fuckwit. None of your taxes payed for it.
> and they have a whopping
> share of the mobile market all tied up too.
Maybe because their competition is pathetic......
> Wonder if LABOUR have the
> balls to take TELSTRA on, or if the idea of just selling the problem
> then trying to regulate it isnt the best of a bad situation now?
> F****k, over $300 on rental, not a call to be made, thats insane!!!!
> Especialy when my great gransparents paid off the copper decades ago...
Did they pay for that shiny new digital exchange that your copper is
connected to, stupid? And who pays for the ongoing upgrades and
maintenance?
> b a s t a r d s, i HATE telstra
And I hate fuckwits who post in HTML.

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Albinus - 16 Apr 2004 06:59 GMT
> What new cable? The HFC rollout stopped about 4 years ago.
Telstra are doing an economic feasibility of FTTP here in QLD, looking at
deploying across the whole country eventually. But I'm assuming this would
come under the same wholesale agreement as copper (i.e. can be resold to
other providers).
Albinus.
[-PC HELP-] - 16 Apr 2004 07:44 GMT
NOPE IT WONT (IVE CHECKED)
> > What new cable? The HFC rollout stopped about 4 years ago.
>
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> Albinus.
Kwyjibo. - 16 Apr 2004 07:53 GMT
"[-PC HELP-]" <srhardy@hotmail.com> said
>> > What new cable? The HFC rollout stopped about 4 years ago.
>>
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> NOPE IT WONT (IVE CHECKED)
Checked with whom? If that information is as reliable as the rest of your
sh.t we can rest easy knowing that other providers *will* have access to any
new local loop technology.

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Charlie Wong - 16 Apr 2004 09:12 GMT
>Telstra are doing an economic feasibility of FTTP here in QLD, looking at
>deploying across the whole country eventually. But I'm assuming this would
>come under the same wholesale agreement as copper (i.e. can be resold to
>other providers).
It won't. Telstra has already discussed this with the ACCC. It's been
in the press over the last month or so. Google some info if you're
interested.
Anthony Horan - 16 Apr 2004 08:03 GMT
> "[-PC HELP-]" <srhardy@hotmail.com> said
>
>> Telstra has now raised basic access charges by almost 300 per cent since
>> 2000,
>
> Bullshit. Who was getting line rental for under $9 in 2000?
The key word was "almost".
> Did they pay for that shiny new digital exchange that your copper is
> connected to, stupid? And who pays for the ongoing upgrades and
> maintenance?
Err... their massive profits from actual PHONE CALLS, perhaps?
- Anthony
Kwyjibo. - 16 Apr 2004 08:08 GMT
Anthony Horan <anthonyhoran@hotmail.com> said
>> "[-PC HELP-]" <srhardy@hotmail.com> said
>>
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> The key word was "almost".
Pity that adding 300% of 9 to 9 comes to a lot more than $28, fuckwit.
The 'almost' is irrlevant as I only allowed for less than a %200 increase.
>> Did they pay for that shiny new digital exchange that your copper is
>> connected to, stupid? And who pays for the ongoing upgrades and
>> maintenance?
>
> Err... their massive profits from actual PHONE CALLS, perhaps?
In addition to line rental, stupid.

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Anthony Horan - 17 Apr 2004 06:16 GMT
> Anthony Horan <anthonyhoran@hotmail.com> said
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> Pity that adding 300% of 9 to 9 comes to a lot more than $28, fuckwit.
Ah, charming. Another Rod Speed. Great.
> The 'almost' is irrlevant as I only allowed for less than a %200 increase.
No idea what the f.ck you're taking before bedtime, sweetheart, but you've
completely lost the plot. The original article in The Australian said
"Telstra has now raised basic access charges by almost 300 per cent since
2000"
And they have. End of story.
>>> Did they pay for that shiny new digital exchange that your copper is
>>> connected to, stupid? And who pays for the ongoing upgrades and
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>
> In addition to line rental, stupid.
Whenever any company (or government, for that matter) claims to be doing
something that's "revenue neutral" you know you're about to be financially
raped.
All Telstra is doing, ultimately, is ensuring that many people will never
go near them again. Which is exactly what I tell their idiot telemarketeers
when they call repeatedly despite being told not to. But hey, if they want
to ask why I would rather have my limbs cut off with a butter knife than
have any dealings with Telstra again, I'm happy to run down the list for
them :)
- Anthony
Kwyjibo. - 17 Apr 2004 09:36 GMT
Anthony Horan <anthonyhoran@hotmail.com> said
>> Anthony Horan <anthonyhoran@hotmail.com> said
>>
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> No idea what the f.ck you're taking before bedtime, sweetheart, but
> you've completely lost the plot.
Unlike you who can't even handle simple arithmetic.
> The original article in The Australian said
>
> "Telstra has now raised basic access charges by almost 300 per cent
> since 2000"
Which is bullshit.
> And they have. End of story.
Wrong.
$26.50 is the current monthly rental price. For there to be a 300%
increase since 2000 you would have had to have been paying $6.63 a month.
Who do you know that was paying under $7 a month line rental in the year
2000, fuckwit?
Try taking a basic mathematics course, stupid. It may help to stop you
making a complete fuckwit of yourself.
>>>> Did they pay for that shiny new digital exchange that your copper is
>>>> connected to, stupid? And who pays for the ongoing upgrades and
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> something that's "revenue neutral" you know you're about to be
> financially raped.
You are an idiot. When has Telstra ever claimed to be a non-profit
organisation?

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'Telstra has now raised basic access charges by almost 300 per cent since
2000, and has a mandate from the Australian Competition and Consumer
Commission to push them as high as $32 a month by June 30, 2005.'
Mandate? what mandate and who the feck voted for it?!?!?!?!
or a more likely question who got a plasma tv for voting for it?
Graham - 18 Apr 2004 09:52 GMT
> 'Telstra has now raised basic access charges by almost 300 per cent since
> 2000, and has a mandate from the Australian Competition and Consumer
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> or a more likely question who got a plasma tv for voting for it?
Aren't the ACCC supposed to be looking after the public, not Telstra's
shareholders?
Graham.
Kwyjibo. - 18 Apr 2004 11:36 GMT
Graham <support@microsoft.com> said
>> 'Telstra has now raised basic access charges by almost 300 per cent since
>> 2000, and has a mandate from the Australian Competition and Consumer
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>
> Aren't the ACCC supposed to be looking after the public,
No. They are supposed to ensure that companies abide by the law in relation
to pricing and competition (among other thing). Nothing to do with who
benefits from it.

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Rod Speed - 18 Apr 2004 19:18 GMT
Kwyjibo <KwyjiboYourPanties@ozdebate.com> wrote in
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> Graham <support@microsoft.com> said
>>> 'Telstra has now raised basic access charges by almost 300 per cent since
>>> 2000, and has a mandate from the Australian Competition and Consumer
>>> Commission to push them as high as $32 a month by June 30, 2005.'
>>> Mandate? what mandate and who the feck voted for it?!?!?!?!
>>> or a more likely question who got a plasma tv for voting for it?
>> Aren't the ACCC supposed to be looking after the public,
> No. They are supposed to ensure that companies abide by
> the law in relation to pricing and competition (among other thing).
Its more complicated than that with that particular pricing.
The pollys required Telstra to get ACCC approval for price
increases where they have a close to monopoly, basically
as part of the sop to the fuckwits to encourage them to
allow the flogging off of the second chunk of Telstra etc.
> Nothing to do with who benefits from it.
It is in this case, making sure Telstra
doesnt exploit their close to monopoly.
Telstra has always attempted that, gouging on stuff where you
dont have any real choice, pricing aggressively where you do.