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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / April 2004Optus Coverage assault - Major New Investment
The Optus Network Enhancements website has just been updated, http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,3_5461--View_215,00.html It looks like near future plans envisage a major capital spend nation-wide. If this all comes off and the pace of the rollout is maintained, Optus will unarguably offer Australia's best GSM coverage. Interestingly, the March entries for new "live" bases appear to be quite conservative. I know of several that came on line in a number of States during arch that have not been chronicled. Meanwhile: - Telstra's board is in turmoil mode while capex is frittered away on non-telecom investments and customers leave Telstra in droves; - Voda investment in AUS, in particular coverage expansion, remains in hiatus amidst speculation that Voda will quit AUS; - Hutchison cherry-picks inner-city custmers with its minimalist all-singing and dancing gizmo entry but shows no sign of expanding its coverage; and - Telstra CDMA remains an underutilised niche-market offer, a sop to the rural lobby. - Speculation about a price war, starting this winter, mounts - likely to be triggered by Telstra but with Optus best-placed to benefit due to its comprehensive coverage and very low costs. The long term mobile landscape is beginning to become clear. How will Optus' behaviour change when it dominates the market, say 2 or 3 years hence? You beat me to this I got an email from my optus mate saying it was updated today. Yes it's the new financial year's rollout planned for all the states around 300 NEW sites in total, not including re-builds/upgrades or 1800 rollouts These will be completed by April 2005. The March new sites which haven't been posted as completed will probably be posted in the April update Prepare for some new offers/plan/discoutns starting around June ..... > The Optus Network Enhancements website has just been updated, http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,3_5461--View_215,00.html > It looks like near future plans envisage a major capital spend nation-wide. > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > How will Optus' behaviour change when it dominates the market, say 2 or 3 > years hence? Those updates were posted a few days ago on the site. I had a dinner on in the sticks tonight. I had to drive along the Warburton Hwy in the very outer Eastern suburbs of Melbourne, which involved travelling through Wandin, Seville, Wori Yallock, etc. I had my Orange phone and my Optus GSM phone next to me to compare the coverage. Not surprisingly, Orange had great coverage most of the way and only roamed to Telstra on two occasions for brief periods. However, the Optus GSM coverage was fantastic. I had full signal the entire time, and there were 2-3 "New Coverage" messages on my handset. I noticed one base station mounted on a power tower. I loathed Optus when I used them as my main phone years ago, but this coverage was second to none. Graham. > Those updates were posted a few days ago on the site. Would have been wed lunch time > I had a dinner on in the sticks tonight. I had to drive along the > Warburton Hwy in the very outer Eastern suburbs of Melbourne, which [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Graham. > The Optus Network Enhancements website has just been updated, > http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,3_5461--View_215,00.html > It looks like near future plans envisage a major capital spend nation-wide. Yeah, but its distinctly arguable how much sense that makes, using GSM outside the main population centers. > If this all comes off and the pace of the rollout is maintained, > Optus will unarguably offer Australia's best GSM coverage. And anyone who needs the best coverage doesnt use GSM anyway. > Interestingly, the March entries for new "live" bases appear to > be quite conservative. I know of several that came on line in a > number of States during arch that have not been chronicled. > Meanwhile: > - Telstra's board is in turmoil mode Just an irrelevant fart in the bath as far as the market dominance is concerned. > while capex is frittered away on non-telecom investments With the profit they have, they can afford that, stupid. Optus' profit is pathetic in comparison. > and customers leave Telstra in droves; Lie. > - Voda investment in AUS, in particular coverage expansion, > remains in hiatus amidst speculation that Voda will quit AUS; There's been mindless speculation along those lines for years and years now. > - Hutchison cherry-picks inner-city custmers with its minimalist all-singing > and dancing gizmo entry but shows no sign of expanding its coverage; and And no sign of anything like a profit any time soon. Remains to be seen if they can avoid going bust too. > - Telstra CDMA remains an underutilised niche-market offer, Sure, but that doesnt matter a damn to those who use it. > a sop to the rural lobby. It was once, its a lot more than that now. > - Speculation about a price war, starting this winter, mounts - > likely to be triggered by Telstra but with Optus best-placed to > benefit due to its comprehensive coverage and very low costs. Mindless silly stuff. Telstra has just as low costs and much better coverage. It remains to be seen if Telstra can manage to get its act into gear policy wise on plans etc tho. > The long term mobile landscape is beginning to become clear. Bullshit. > How will Optus' behaviour change when it dominates the market, We'll see if it actually does dominate the mobile market. > say 2 or 3 years hence? Wanna bet ? >> The Optus Network Enhancements website has just been updated, > >> http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,3_5461--View_215,00.html (snip) >> - Telstra CDMA remains an underutilised niche-market offer, > >Sure, but that doesnt matter a damn to those who use it. It does - it means no GSM-style CONGESTION ;-) > It does - it means no GSM-style CONGESTION ;-) True - although a heavily loaded CDMA BSC will reduce quality in order to squash more calls through. Works well in Japan for that reason, however I don't see too many heavily utilised CDMA bases in Australia :-) Albinus. >> The Family <someone@somewhere.com> wrote >>> - Telstra CDMA remains an underutilised niche-market offer, >> Sure, but that doesnt matter a damn to those who use it. > It does - it means no GSM-style CONGESTION ;-) True. The main downside is the crappy choice of handsets and the lack of a sim. And the crappy choice of plan if you hardly ever call out, mostly receive calls. And the worse in building coverage in the capital citys. > True. The main downside is the crappy > choice of handsets and the lack of a sim. Try the Samsung N361 at an Orange shop. I'd say it's on par with the Nokia 6610. > And the crappy choice of plan if you > hardly ever call out, mostly receive calls. Maybe with Telstra or Optus CDMA, but Orange's JustGo plan is $10 per month, with 18 cents per 30 seconds call rates. These call rates are cheaper than Vodafone No Plans. Graham. >> True. The main downside is the crappy >> choice of handsets and the lack of a sim. > Try the Samsung N361 at an Orange shop. No thanks, its just one handset. > I'd say it's on par with the Nokia 6610. Maybe, but there are a hell of a lot of GSM handsets that are too. >> And the crappy choice of plan if you >> hardly ever call out, mostly receive calls. > Maybe with Telstra or Optus CDMA, With everyone. > but Orange's JustGo plan is $10 per month, Pity about the GSM $0 per month plans. > with 18 cents per 30 seconds call rates. > These call rates are cheaper than Vodafone No Plans. Pity that the call rates dont matter if you make hardly any calls and mostly just receive them. And Unison is the same price, WITH a $5.50 per month credit if you have email billing and automatic balance debits, which covers quite a few calls short calls at that rate. Nothing like that with CDMA, as I said. >> Try the Samsung N361 at an Orange shop. > > No thanks, its just one handset. How many do you need? ;) > Pity about the GSM $0 per month plans. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Nothing like that with CDMA, as I said. You pay $10 to Orange per month and get $10 of credits to go towards calls and SMSs. You can also choose to pay $15 a month and get 11 cent SMSs. Who are Unison? Graham. > >> Try the Samsung N361 at an Orange shop. > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Graham. Keep in mind ,Graham , that to quote Charlie Wong, Orange is not available in his hick town. Frank > > >> Try the Samsung N361 at an Orange shop. > > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Keep in mind ,Graham , that to quote Charlie Wong, Orange is not available > in his hick town. Or in most places where people choose CDMA for the better coverage. >>> Try the Samsung N361 at an Orange shop. >> No thanks, its just one handset. > How many do you need? ;) I want to choose from more than just one decent handset. > > Pity about the GSM $0 per month plans. > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > > Nothing like that with CDMA, as I said. > You pay $10 to Orange per month I want to pay $0 per month. Thats the main downside with CDMA, no $0 per month. > and get $10 of credits to go towards calls and SMSs. With Unison you pay $0 per month and get $5.50 to go towards any charges. > You can also choose to pay $15 a month and get 11 cent SMSs. I hardly send any at all. > Who are Unison? No idea. http://www.unisonmobile.com.au > I want to pay $0 per month. Thats the main > downside with CDMA, no $0 per month. Get a Telstra CDMA prepay. Hard to find these days, though the smaller DSEs have a few. There are several for sale on ebay. >> I want to pay $0 per month. Thats the main >> downside with CDMA, no $0 per month. > Get a Telstra CDMA prepay. No thanks, no guarantee that it will stay $0/month for long since it has always had a credit expiry officially. > Hard to find these days, though the smaller DSEs > have a few. There are several for sale on ebay. And have the expiry enforced once you buy it. No thanks. > >> I want to pay $0 per month. Thats the main > >> downside with CDMA, no $0 per month. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > And have the expiry enforced once you buy it. No thanks. Hasnt been implemented yet, Rod > > >> I want to pay $0 per month. Thats the main > > >> downside with CDMA, no $0 per month. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Hasnt been implemented yet, Rod Not interested in bending over for that sort of shafting thanks. > > >> I want to pay $0 per month. Thats the main > > >> downside with CDMA, no $0 per month. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Hasnt been implemented yet, Rod And unlikely for a very long time, if ever. > > > >> I want to pay $0 per month. Thats the main > > > >> downside with CDMA, no $0 per month. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > And unlikely for a very long time, if ever. You have absolutely no way of knowing that. > > > > >> I want to pay $0 per month. Thats the main > > > > >> downside with CDMA, no $0 per month. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > You have absolutely no way of knowing that. If you understood the business case as to why this was implemented in the first place, you'd also understand why a change is highly unlikely. Let's just say that implementing a timed expiry date would result in litigation that Telstra just doesn't need. Farmers have some power on this one. "The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> said > just say that implementing a timed expiry date would result in litigation > that Telstra just doesn't need. WTF are you on about? If Telstra did activate it and were taken to court for doing so, they would win the case hands down. They have always said it has an expiry date. The fact that they haven't excercised their right to expire it is irrelevant. > Farmers have some power on this one. Bullshit. Not if they have signed up for a deal that quite clearly states it has an expiry date.  SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) You were not privy, so clearly inderstand, the deals that were done when CDMA was rolled out. > "The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> said > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Bullshit. Not if they have signed up for a deal that quite clearly states it > has an expiry date. > You were not privy, so clearly inderstand, the > deals that were done when CDMA was rolled out. Neither were you. There were no such 'deals' on that particular question. And they are completely irrelevant to whether Telstra can start enforcing the expiry thats been explictly stated with prepaid kits for YEARS now, anyway. > > "The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> said > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > it > > has an expiry date. > > You were not privy, so clearly inderstand, the > > deals that were done when CDMA was rolled out. > > Neither were you. There were no such 'deals' on that particular question. You can't claim that if you weren't an insider. ijut. > > > You were not privy, so clearly inderstand, the > > > deals that were done when CDMA was rolled out. > > > > Neither were you. There were no such 'deals' on that particular question. > You can't claim that if you weren't an insider. ijut. Wrong. As always, fuckwit. > > > You were not privy, so clearly inderstand, the > > > deals that were done when CDMA was rolled out. > > > > Neither were you. There were no such 'deals' on that particular question. > > You can't claim that if you weren't an insider. ijut. You overheard two Telstra guys talking on the train. You arent an insider > You were not privy, so clearly inderstand, the deals that were done when > CDMA was rolled out. Load of crap sh.t TopUp has had an expiry date for years. Its in the SFOA and therefore legally enforceable on customers Kwyjibo. said.... >> just say that implementing a timed expiry date would result in >> litigation that Telstra just doesn't need. > WTF are you on about? If Telstra did activate it and were taken to court > for doing so, they would win the case hands down. They have always said > it has an expiry date. The fact that they haven't excercised their right > to expire it is irrelevant. I'm coming into this thread late and so I've missed previous posts. I take it that you're talking about pre-paids and expiry dates? I'm not sure who's arguing what, but yesterday while browsing Dick Smith, the shop had a number of pre-paid mobiles under $100 that all had 6 month time limits. ie: you get X amount of credits and you lose them if not used after 6 months. This was for both CDMA and GSM. > Kwyjibo. said.... > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > 6 month time limits. ie: you get X amount of credits and you lose them > if not used after 6 months. This was for both CDMA and GSM. Wota terminal fuckwit. Telstra Prepaid Plus, Virgin Mobile and god knows who else all offer such deals. Nothing unique about the DSE "offer." > Kwyjibo. said.... > I'm not sure who's arguing what, but yesterday while browsing Dick > Smith, the shop had a number of pre-paid mobiles under $100 that all had > 6 month time limits. ie: you get X amount of credits and you lose them > if not used after 6 months. This was for both CDMA and GSM. > > "The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message > news:40895aab$1@duster.adelaide.on.net... [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > > > You have absolutely no way of knowing that. > If you understood the business case as to > why this was implemented in the first place, No such animal on that question of no expiry. > you'd also understand why a change is highly unlikely. Complete pig ignorant drivel. > Let's just say that implementing a timed expiry date > would result in litigation that Telstra just doesn't need. Complete pig ignorant drivel with kits that have been flogged with that expiry explicitly stated, just not implemented. > Farmers have some power on this one. Pigs arse they do when the kits been flogged for years now with that expiry explicitly stated. > > > "The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message > > news:40895aab$1@duster.adelaide.on.net... [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > Pigs arse they do when the kits been flogged > for years now with that expiry explicitly stated. The only instance where I have *not* seen the expiry date in terms and conditions was in the first TopUp, which had the $10 per month access fee. So if they want the expiry date removed, I'm sure telstra would be happy to backdate the $10 per month access fee and wipe out your credit completely > > "The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message > news:40895aab$1@duster.adelaide.on.net... [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > just say that implementing a timed expiry date would result in litigation > that Telstra just doesn't need. Farmers have some power on this one. You're an idiot. The expiry date is already in the SFOA, so its legal. The implementation of it is already scheduled in the TPP closure schedule. > > I want to pay $0 per month. Thats the main > > downside with CDMA, no $0 per month. > > Get a Telstra CDMA prepay. Hard to find these days, though the smaller DSEs > have a few. There are several for sale on ebay. Just get a Telstra CDMA used phone and connect it up. Pity that Unison uses that crappy limited-coverage Vodafone network. > >> Try the Samsung N361 at an Orange shop. > > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Graham. >Pity that Unison uses that crappy limited-coverage Vodafone network. Yeah, Voda is bad even in Sydney City. >>> The Family <someone@somewhere.com> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >True. The main downside is the crappy >choice of handsets and the lack of a sim. Agreed. >And the crappy choice of plan if you >hardly ever call out, mostly receive calls. which is why I use the Optarse $5/mo plan. It's as near to a true glovebox plan as I could find. >And the worse in building coverage in the capital citys. Interestingly, a mate is a defence contractor who spends time in all sorts of bases and places on the planet. In a bunker at Tindal his Moto CDMA was chirping happily away and all the defence goons could say was "shite, nothing's supposed to work in here". The only reason it's shite in capcities is that Telstra don't give a rats about it being an all-over solution. If they did, there'd be a few more city bases. Let's face it, the building penetration capabilities - as a function of frequency - aren't going to differ materially from GSM. > >>> The Family <someone@somewhere.com> wrote > > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > chirping happily away and all the defence goons could say was "shite, nothing's > supposed to work in here". > The only reason it's shite in capcities is that Telstra don't give a rats about > it being an all-over solution. Its not that so much as they have a high density of GSM bases because of the way that GSM works channels per base and that high density produces a decent result inside big buildings. And some microcells in some buildings too. Cant be justified with CDMA, because almost everyone uses GSM. > If they did, there'd be a few more city bases. Yes, but a few more isnt going to fix that. > Let's face it, the building penetration capabilities - as a function > of frequency - aren't going to differ materially from GSM. Sure, but the base density and the use of microcells does. > The Optus Network Enhancements website has just been updated, http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,3_5461--View_215,00.html Yes I posted this on Ausmobile a couple of days ago. The full details are there too, if you are having trouble accessing the hopelessly slow Optus website. http://www.ausmobile.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=117&m ode=thread&order=0&thold=0 Some locations are appended with "FSR" - what does that mean? Maybe a mini-base station? > > The Optus Network Enhancements website has just been updated, http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,3_5461--View_215,00.html > Yes I posted this on Ausmobile a couple of days ago. The full details are > there too, if you are having trouble accessing the hopelessly slow Optus > website. http://www.ausmobile.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=117&m ode=thread&order=0&thold=0 > Some locations are appended with "FSR" - what does that mean? Maybe a > mini-base station? That's essentially a repeater - useful for providing niche coverage where a full BTS is unwarranted/uneconomical. Albinus. The Optus website works fine for me. Maybe you need to complain to your ISP? Do a tracert first... > Yes I posted this on Ausmobile a couple of days ago. The full details are > there too, if you are having trouble accessing the hopelessly slow Optus > website. > The Optus website works fine for me. Maybe you need to complain to your > ISP? Do a tracert first... I think Jeremy was referring to the fact that Optus haven't had a site change in a long time, and that it *can* be variable in terms of loading speed. For example, when you click on the new updates, the browser sits there for around 15 seconds before doing anything. Albinus. > The Optus website works fine for me. Maybe you need to complain to your > ISP? Do a tracert first... Nothing to do with my ISP thanks. Have fun explaining why it does that on about 10 different ISPs I have tried it from, including ADSL/Cable/Dialup. Ahhhh, so it's not just me either, Optus web sites have always been slow, Cable/ADSL and of course dial up. | > The Optus website works fine for me. Maybe you need to complain to your | > ISP? Do a tracert first... | | Nothing to do with my ISP thanks. Have fun explaining why it does that on | about 10 different ISPs I have tried it from, including ADSL/Cable/Dialup. > > The Optus website works fine for me. Maybe you need to complain to your > > ISP? Do a tracert first... > > Nothing to do with my ISP thanks. Have fun explaining why it does that on > about 10 different ISPs I have tried it from, including ADSL/Cable/Dialup. I use Optus cable and the Optus mobile website would have to be the slowest I've seen. Frank > > > The Optus website works fine for me. Maybe you need to complain to your > > > ISP? Do a tracert first... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Frank Yes it really is an extremely poor effort and what surprises me most is how long its been like that - it hasn't been a recent issue - it's been like that for at least a year, and obviously the person in charge of it is asleep at the wheel. I think it's your ISP. The Optus coverage update website always loads fast for me. > > The Optus website works fine for me. Maybe you need to complain to your > > ISP? Do a tracert first... > > Nothing to do with my ISP thanks. Have fun explaining why it does that on > about 10 different ISPs I have tried it from, including ADSL/Cable/Dialup. > I think it's your ISP. The Optus coverage > update website always loads fast for me. Which url precisely ? http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,3_5461--View_215,00.html certainly loads about as fast as any on iinet 256Kb adsl, at this time of day, anyway. > > > The Optus website works fine for me. Maybe you need to complain to your > > > ISP? Do a tracert first... > > > > Nothing to do with my ISP thanks. Have fun explaining why it does that on > > about 10 different ISPs I have tried it from, including ADSL/Cable/Dialup. I bookmarked the VIC updates page, and it's always been incredibly slow to load with all the broadband providers I've had. Graham. > I bookmarked the VIC updates page, Which one EXACTLY ? The speed varys quite a bit. Do you mean http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1004_16045-3_5461--View_205 ,00.html > and it's always been incredibly slow to load > with all the broadband providers I've had. That one is nothing like 'incredibly slow' for me. > > I bookmarked the VIC updates page, > > Which one EXACTLY ? The speed varys quite a bit. Do you mean http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1004_16045-3_5461--View_205 ,00.html > > and it's always been incredibly slow to load > > with all the broadband providers I've had. > > That one is nothing like 'incredibly slow' for me. This one is very slow for myself, both on Optus dial-up, Telstra Cable & Iprimus adsl. > > I bookmarked the VIC updates page, > > Which one EXACTLY ? The speed varys quite a bit. Do you mean http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1004_16045-3_5461--View_205 ,00.html Yes, that one. It (can be) EXTREMELY slow - slow like nothing you'll ever see, on Optus Cable, Telstra Cable, iPrimus dialup, iiNet 1.5MBit ADSL, and numerous other ISPs - slow to the point the browser sits there for up to several minutes before displaying. And sometimes, it loads instantly. > > and it's always been incredibly slow to load > > with all the broadband providers I've had. > > That one is nothing like 'incredibly slow' for me. >> Graham <support@microsoft.com> wrote >>> I bookmarked the VIC updates page, >> Which one EXACTLY ? The speed varys quite a bit. Do you mean >> http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1004_16045-3_5461--View_205 ,00.html > Yes, that one. It (can be) EXTREMELY slow - slow like nothing you'll ever > see, on Optus Cable, Telstra Cable, iPrimus dialup, iiNet 1.5MBit ADSL, > and numerous other ISPs - slow to the point the browser sits there for > up to several minutes before displaying. And sometimes, it loads instantly. OK, never seen anything more than a pause of a few seconds at most. Admittedly I havent used it much too. >>> and it's always been incredibly slow to load >>> with all the broadband providers I've had. >> That one is nothing like 'incredibly slow' for me. > > "Graham" <support@microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:pan.2004.04.18.21.46.28.187513@microsoft.com... > > > > > I bookmarked the VIC updates page, > > > > Which one EXACTLY ? The speed varys quite a bit. Do you mean http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1004_16045-3_5461--View_205 ,00.html > Yes, that one. It (can be) EXTREMELY slow - slow like nothing you'll ever > see, on Optus Cable, Telstra Cable, iPrimus dialup, iiNet 1.5MBit ADSL, and > numerous other ISPs - slow to the point the browser sits there for up to > several minutes before displaying. And sometimes, it loads instantly. Tonight it sat there for 60 seconds, doing nothing, then it came up instantly > Which one EXACTLY ? The speed varys quite a bit. Do you mean > http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1004_16045-3_5461--View_205 ,00.html Yeah, that one (as Jeremy pointed out). I just cleared my cache and tried it then, and it took about 15 seconds, which is the fastest ever. It's been slow with Netspace, iiNet and Westnet. Graham. >> Which one EXACTLY ? The speed varys quite a bit. Do you mean >> http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1004_16045-3_5461--View_205 ,00.html > Yeah, that one (as Jeremy pointed out). I just cleared my cache and > tried it then, and it took about 15 seconds, which is the fastest ever. Yeah, I've been refreshing it all day, whenever I remember. Its certainly got a few seconds pause before you get the data, all in one burst, but certainly not minutes with iinet adsl. > It's been slow with Netspace, iiNet and Westnet. Yeah, there certainly is a pause for few seconds that you dont see with most web sites. Presumably they have to whip the cockroaches into action to go and get the data or sumfin. I'm talking about http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1004_23892-3_5461--View_205 ,00.html Always loads fine with my ISP. Perhaps a 2 second delay max, usually faster. I use 512/128 DSL. > > I bookmarked the VIC updates page, > > Which one EXACTLY ? The speed varys quite a bit. Do you mean http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1004_16045-3_5461--View_205 ,00.html > > and it's always been incredibly slow to load > > with all the broadband providers I've had. > > That one is nothing like 'incredibly slow' for me. > I'm talking about > http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1004_23892-3_5461--View_205 ,00.html About the same result as the one below here. > Always loads fine with my ISP. Perhaps a 2 second delay max, I get a bit more than that, it can be 4-5 secs or more. > usually faster. I dont get that either. > I use 512/128 DSL. Mine is 256, but its got nothing to do with the speed, it does nothing for that time and then it all shows up in a single burst. > > "Graham" <support@microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:pan.2004.04.18.21.46.28.187513@microsoft.com... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > > That one is nothing like 'incredibly slow' for me. > > I'm talking about http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1004_23892-3_5461--View_205 ,00.html > About the same result as the one below here. its the same one > > > I'm talking about > > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > its the same one Wrong. As always. > http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1004_16045-3_5461--View_205 ,00.html > I think it's your ISP. The Optus coverage update website always loads fast > for me. Nothing to do with my ISP thanks. Have fun explaining why it does that on a handful of widely different ISPs using widely different technology, on numerous different PCs. And I'm clearly not the only one here who is having trouble. Well, I'm not having difficulty. I get a page-load within 2 sec, usually less. This demonstrates that the Optus end is not necessarily optarse-up and leads me to think the problem is further downstream. The performance you're getting could well be ISP-related. If you don't want to accept this possibility, I can't help further. > > I think it's your ISP. The Optus coverage update website always loads > fast [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > And I'm clearly not the only one here who is having trouble. Loads in 30 seconds for me, using explorer on TPG at 45000 bps > > I think it's your ISP. The Optus coverage update website always loads > fast [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > And I'm clearly not the only one here who is having trouble. >If this all comes off and the pace of the rollout is maintained, Optus will >unarguably offer Australia's best GSM coverage. Michael Ellis will again be forced to eat his words. > Michael Ellis will again be forced to eat his words. Does he ever stop eating his own words? ;-) > The Optus Network Enhancements website has just been updated, And big applause to Optus for putting the Melbourne Underground tunnels back on the agenda. One puzzling thing, though: they list these as upcoming: Melbourne Tunnel 2 Melbourne Tunnel 3 Melbourne Tunnel 4 Anyone want to take bets on which set of rail lines misses out on coverage? :-) - Anthony Clue: The one that involves the biggest mobile phone theft? > Anyone want to take bets on which set of rail lines misses out on coverage? > :-) > > The Optus Network Enhancements website has just been updated, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Anyone want to take bets on which set of rail lines misses out on coverage? > :-) If the naming convention corresponds to the naming of the platforms, then the Clifton Hill loop misses out. But Optus have been talking about the city loop being covered for a very long time now. I'll believe it when I see it. > - Anthony |
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