>Also, Optus toyed with 'unlimited' local call plans (for calls made from
>their HFC cable) in 2000 for $35 extra in 2000. They were forced to
>withdraw the offer for new customers after the ACCC stepped in, as the offer
>was only deemed 'reasonable use' for up to 500 calls.
>http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1031_29552-3_31346--View_30
3,00.html
Orange offered truly unlimited local calls from one of its suite of
plans where the plan amount was $100 or greater. Plan was
grandfathered as is Orange practice when new plans are introduced.
Michael - 22 Apr 2004 10:27 GMT
> Orange offered truly unlimited local calls from one of its suite of
> plans where the plan amount was $100 or greater. Plan was
> grandfathered as is Orange practice when new plans are introduced.
As is pretty much any carrier/SPs arrangements
> > > And apparently they pay $40/month fixed-line rental (about A$35), and
> > > get unlimited 'local' calls.
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>
> Thanks for the Inzid insight, Ken.
> The interesting thing from the Australian perspective
> is that A$35 for line rental is already a reality
Not for residential lines it aint.
> - in fact it's cheap for SME line rental.
Irrelevant.
> High-value residential lines have the option for rental around this amount,
Bullshit.
> and basic access lines will hover around this level mid-next year.
Bullshit. And if you care about the line rent, its quite a bit cheaper than that.
> Also, Optus toyed with 'unlimited' local call plans (for calls made from
> their HFC cable) in 2000 for $35 extra in 2000. They were forced to
> withdraw the offer for new customers after the ACCC stepped in, as
> the offer was only deemed 'reasonable use' for up to 500 calls.
Bullshit, they changed that themselves. The only thing that the ACCC
forced was that customers who had signed up for that unlimited local
calls offer who had that ripped from under them BY OPTUS, got to
decide if they wanted to get out of their contract with Optus when
the rugged was ripped from under them so obscenely.
> http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1031_29552-3_31346--View_30
3,00.html
Giles - 19 Apr 2004 23:24 GMT
> > High-value residential lines have the option for rental around this amount,
>> Bullshit.
Telstra HomeLine Advanced charges $33
Optus 15c local call plan charges $33.50
> > and basic access lines will hover around this level mid-next year.
> Bullshit.
Why not? If Telstra has the mandate to do it, why wouldn't it?
> And if you care about the line rent, its quite a bit cheaper than that.
No question that there's a cheaper offer. But the fact is, the majority of
subscribers have never heard of communic8 Pre-Paid Home.
> > Also, Optus toyed with 'unlimited' local call plans (for calls made from
> > their HFC cable) in 2000 for $35 extra in 2000. They were forced to
> > withdraw the offer ...
> Bullshit, they changed that themselves.
Sorry, you're right - Optus introduced their 'Fair Go local' policy 2 months
after launch. It admitted claiming 'unlimited calls' was misleading. Six
months after launch, the 'unlimited calls' offer expired, but customers had
been made to sign 12-month contracts. So Optus agreed with the ACCC to
extend the offer to existing customers for another year.
The whole point was to show that Optus considered 'unlimited local calls' to
be unsustainable.
Rod Speed - 20 Apr 2004 01:22 GMT
>>> High-value residential lines have the option for rental around this amount,
>>> Bullshit.
> Telstra HomeLine Advanced charges $33
Utterly bogus. HomeLine Complete is only $23.50
> Optus 15c local call plan charges $33.50
Utterly bogus. Thats not a line rent.
>>> and basic access lines will hover around this level mid-next year.
>> Bullshit.
> Why not? If Telstra has the mandate to do it,
It doesnt.
> why wouldn't it?
Because the ACCC wont allow it.
>> And if you care about the line rent, its quite a bit cheaper than that.
> No question that there's a cheaper offer.
MUCH cheaper than that stupid $33 figure. Try $17.50, HALF the price.
> But the fact is, the majority of subscribers
> have never heard of communic8 Pre-Paid Home.
I wasnt even including that.