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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / April 2004News: Telstra/Orange takeover talks
Telstra's itch unscratched By Michael Sainsbury and Robert Clow April 20, 2004 TELSTRA'S appetite for acquisitions appears unsated by last week's boardroom bloodletting, with the company in talks with rival Hutchison Telecommunications to buy its Orange mobile phone business for about $250 million. The two companies are also in detailed discussions on the possibility of sharing infrastructure for third generation, or 3G, mobile services, which allow always-on data and internet services, video calling and low cost/high quality voice services. Full story at http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,9334689%255E462,00.html > Telstra's itch unscratched > By Michael Sainsbury and Robert Clow Those two fools again. > April 20, 2004 > TELSTRA'S appetite for acquisitions appears unsated > by last week's boardroom bloodletting, with the company > in talks with rival Hutchison Telecommunications to buy > its Orange mobile phone business for about $250 million. Wanna bet what the ACCC will think of that ? > The two companies are also in detailed discussions on the > possibility of sharing infrastructure for third generation, or > 3G, mobile services, which allow always-on data and internet > services, video calling and low cost/high quality voice services. > Full story at > http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,9334689%255E462,00.html This isn't going to happen, is it? It'd just be my luck after signing up with Orange last week...it would be a nightmare to end up back with Telstra after paying $336 for the phone up front! Graham. >Telstra's itch unscratched >By Michael Sainsbury and Robert Clow [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Full story at >http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,9334689%255E462,00.html > This isn't going to happen, is it? It'd just be my luck after signing > up with Orange last week...it would be a nightmare to end up back with > Telstra after paying $336 for the phone up front! Well, it might! Even if it did though, acquiring companies can deal with the overtaken company's existing customer base in different ways. Optus, for example, migrated (or offered to migrate) old Orange GSM subscribers to Optus plans when Orange exited its Australian GSM business. On the other hand, when Optus acquired RSL Com's mobile business, it kept the RSL Com Mobile brand. Hutchison might stipulate as a condition of sale that the Orange brand remain (eg to keep a presence in the region), in which case you might not be a Telstra customer, so much as a customer of Telstra-owned Orange. All depends on how far-removed you want to be from Telstra, I guess >Optus, for example, migrated (or offered to migrate) old Orange GSM >subscribers to Optus plans when Orange exited its Australian GSM business. Wrong, Optus developed a special set of "O" branded plans for migrating customers. See Optus Standard Form of Agreement documents for details. I had my 1 Orange GSM service cancelled as I could not use the included calls across the bill on Orange CDMA services after the forced switch to Optus. There was no early termination penalty and I was not required to pay out the 1 remaining year in access fees. All one had to do was ask. > >Optus, for example, migrated (or offered to migrate) old Orange GSM > >subscribers to Optus plans when Orange exited its Australian GSM business. > Optus developed a special set of "O" branded plans for > migrating customers. Yes, and they were Optus plans, weren't they? >Yes, and they were Optus plans, weren't they? They were / are _special_ Optus_ plans developed for Orange migrating customers. They made the plans as close as possible as what Orange offered. Forget the system they reside on, we're talking about the rate plan here! > They were / are _special_ Optus_ plans developed for Orange migrating > customers. They made the plans as close as possible as what Orange > offered. Forget the system they reside on, we're talking about the > rate plan here! Hmm, most of the Orange migration plans listed on the SFOA look like re-badged Optus plans. A few small differences like cancellation fees, but that's all. BUSINESS BYO TRANSFER PLANS (16, 33, 66, 99) look like the BUSINESS BYO PLANS (16, 33, 66, 99) ENTERPRISE MAXI O10 PLAN looks like the ENTERPRISE MAXI 10-00 PLAN BYO TRANSFER PLANS (9, 16, 22, 33, 44, 66, 99) look like the YES' BYO PLANS The one exception I could find was the 'YES' BUSINESS O10 PLAN - is that what you're talking about? >> They were / are _special_ Optus_ plans developed for Orange migrating >> customers. They made the plans as close as possible as what Orange [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >The one exception I could find was the 'YES' BUSINESS O10 PLAN - is >that what you're talking about? Look at the detail. > >The one exception I could find was the 'YES' BUSINESS O10 PLAN - is > >that what you're talking about? > Look at the detail. What are you talking about, specifically? There's tons of detail! Well if the Orange plans were no longer available, I'd probably go to Optus CDMA rather than Telstra CDMA. Optus have got a $5 plan for new customers with a CDMA phone. You pay about 30 cents per 30 seconds, so that's as cheap as you'd get on CDMA (if Orange wasn't around). Graham. In other potential industry consolidation news, The Australian says that Voda had some discussions with Telstra about sharing 3G infrastructure but that those talks are now dead. In today's AFR, Voda says that it is very close (1-2 weeks) to signing its 3G technology supplier. AFR speculates that this is Nokia. Voda's 3G investment in Australia will be about $1B and in New Zealand about half the Aussie investment. > Telstra's itch unscratched > By Michael Sainsbury and Robert Clow [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Full story at http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,9334689%255E462,00.html |
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