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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / May 2004OK the tower is built Woohoo!!!
Yo All, the tower is built and the array is hanging from the sky, its one big mutha... 35 meters high, high on the mountains west of Caboolture... No i'm not trying to make poetry thats for sure just pleased to be getting reliable mobile phone service...soon so how long does Optus take to turn em on... got some good pix of the sky hook they used.. Tim if U r interested in a couple of pix of the opposition lemme know.. Gerry **************************************************************** > Yo All, the tower is built and the array is hanging from the sky, > its one big mutha... 35 meters high, > high on the mountains west of Caboolture... Where abouts exactly mate? And is it Optus? (You're the one on Mt Mee with an unreliable service IIRC) Albinus. >> Yo All, the tower is built and the array is hanging from the sky, >> its one big mutha... 35 meters high, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Albinus. Hi Albinus It's at Oceanview, west of Caboolture, it was 2nd on the 'to do' list at Optus last month.. whether that meant anything at all, and yep that be me....Mt Mee..... (I am not offering either) :-)) Gerry > It's at Oceanview, west of Caboolture, it was 2nd on the 'to do' list at > Optus last month.. whether that meant anything at all Usually not, they aren't in any particular order, even towers that haven't been on the "To Do" list have been constructed ahead of those on the list. Albinus. Ok on that, I went past a short while ago and they are feeding the co-ax and connecting to the arrays, so I guess it shouldnt be too long now.. Gerry > Yo All, the tower is built and the array is hanging from the sky, > its one big mutha... 35 meters high, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > so how long does Optus take to turn em on... Generally about 2-4 weeks from completion of the "structure" > got some good pix of the sky hook they used.. > Tim if U r interested in a couple of pix of the opposition lemme know.. > > Gerry > > **************************************************************** > > Yo All, the tower is built and the array is hanging from the sky, > > its one big mutha... 35 meters high, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Generally about 2-4 weeks from completion of the "structure" Hardly, varies wildly on other factors such as council approval "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said >> Generally about 2-4 weeks from completion of the "structure" > > Hardly, varies wildly on other factors such as council approval It's already up, fuckwit, which would tend to indicate that council approval has already been granted.  SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) > "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > It's already up, fuckwit, which would tend to indicate that council approval > has already been granted. Incorrect. There have been many towers built and ready to go, that have stalled because council approval hasnt been gived, has been revoked, or is under review. > > "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > stalled because council approval hasnt been gived, has been revoked, or is > under review. Yeah, riight. "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said >> "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > stalled because council approval hasnt been gived, has been revoked, or is > under review. Where? Please provide some examples. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) > "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Where? Please provide some examples. Here's one example for you. http://www.warringah.nsw.gov.au/pdf/2004021041.pdf. > > "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > http://www.warringah.nsw.gov.au/pdf/2004021041.pdf. Completely irrelevant to the one being discussed which is nowhere near any residential housing. > > > "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said > > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Completely irrelevant to the one being discussed > which is nowhere near any residential housing. The gentleman poster was asking for an example of where a tower had been built and then stalled because of council approval issues. I provided one such example. The locality has nothing to do with it - as it was merely an example. English isn't your first language is it Roddles? > > > > "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said > > > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Completely irrelevant to the one being discussed > > which is nowhere near any residential housing. > The gentleman poster Thats no gentleman, fool. > was asking for an example of where a tower had been > built and then stalled because of council approval issues. And was obviously asking for one relevant to the tower being discussed, fuckwit. Reams of terminally silly sh.t you'd expect from a rotting corpse flushed where it belongs. "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said >> The gentleman poster > > Thats no gentleman, fool. You dare to question my honor, good sir? <slaps Rods whithered face with a silk glove> I challenge you to a dual. Pistols at dawn. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) Drink til midnight, piss til dawn.... is that what you meant?? :-) SignatureGerry > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > <slaps Rods whithered face with a silk glove> > I challenge you to a dual. Pistols at dawn. Dual wot, you scum peon ? "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said >> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Dual wot, A dual duel. I'll shoot you once, perform CPR, then kill you again. > you scum peon ? Hah! Peasant. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > > Dual wot, > A dual duel. I'll shoot you once, perform CPR, then kill you again. Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, child. >> you scum peon ? > Hah! Peasant. You wont be laughing, pheasant. "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said >> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, child. Ok. No CPR then. I'll just shoot you twice and be done with it. >>> you scum peon ? > >> Hah! Peasant. > > You wont be laughing, pheasant. Be sure to bring your flintlock. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) > A dual duel. I'll shoot you once, perform CPR, then kill you again. > > > you scum peon ? > > Hah! Peasant. he's an unpleasant peasant > > > > > "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Thats no gentleman, fool. And you are what, a bush pig? Learn some manners, grumpy old f.ck > > was asking for an example of where a tower had been > > built and then stalled because of council approval issues. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Reams of terminally silly sh.t you'd expect from > a rotting corpse flushed where it belongs. w.nker "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said >> > > Incorrect. There have been many towers built and ready to go, that >> > > have stalled because council approval hasnt been gived, has been [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Completely irrelevant to the one being discussed > which is nowhere near any residential housing. Not to mention the fact that we are talking about towers that have already been built. That paticular stupid f.cking troll can't even get the basics right. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > been built. > That paticular stupid f.cking troll can't even get the basics right. It looks like I've made you go to a lot of trouble by downloading and reading that document and you are now feeling humiliated and hence the anger you have just expressed. But don't fret newbie, you'll learn to read proper one day. > > > >> It's already up, fuckwit, which would tend to indicate that council > > > > approval [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Completely irrelevant to the one being discussed > which is nowhere near any residential housing. Your attempt to get off track is indeed irrelevant. Statement was : "There have been many towers built and ready to go, that have stalled because council approval hasnt been gived, has been revoked, or is under review." Question was "Where? Please provide some examples" And the answer was "http://www.warringah.nsw.gov.au/pdf/2004021041.pdf. " If you are not asking the question or providing the answer, you get NO SAY on how irrelevant the answer was, fuckwit "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said > Question was "Where? Please provide some examples" > > And the answer was "http://www.warringah.nsw.gov.au/pdf/2004021041.pdf. > " And that answer is incorrect. The tower being discussed there had not been built. > If you are not asking the question or providing the answer, you get NO SAY > on how irrelevant the answer was, fuckwit I think you'd better learn how usenet works. Anyone is free to reply to any post. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) > Here's one example for you. > > http://www.warringah.nsw.gov.au/pdf/2004021041.pdf. Completly irrelevent - it had not been approved (by Warringah's Administrator) it was refered for further assessment. > "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Where? Please provide some examples. Commercial-in-confidence > > "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Commercial-in-confidence HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA doubtful, if you searched enough you would find it, but this is just another one of your pathetic cover up attempts "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said >> Where? Please provide some examples. > > Commercial-in-confidence Bullshit. Minutes of all council sessions are available to the public. You have two options. Either provide examples or admit you are full of sh.t. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) > Bullshit. Minutes of all council sessions are available to the public. ...If the session is classed as 'open' Thomas 'bacco|007' Baxter <bacco007@bacco007.com> said >> Bullshit. Minutes of all council sessions are available to the public. > > ...If the session is classed as 'open' Correct, but for an item to be passed to a closed session it must first be raised in an open session where it is minuted as an item. Any item, whether it's finally dealt with in a closed session or not, is initially available for public viewing. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) > Correct, but for an item to be passed to a closed session it must first be > raised in an open session where it is minuted as an item. > > Any item, whether it's finally dealt with in a closed session or not, is > initially available for public viewing. Not entirly (at least in NSW) - items in an open session can be refered to the closed session if required at the perogative of counsellors/mayor An item is considered to be 'confidential' where it meets one of the requirements in Section 10A(2) of the Local Government Act. In which case no discussion is usually entered into during an open session, however an 'abstract title' could be mentioned in the council's business paper and minutes (which are freely available to the public) Thomas 'bacco|007' Baxter <bacco007@bacco007.com> said >> Correct, but for an item to be passed to a closed session it must first >> be raised in an open session where it is minuted as an item. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Not entirly (at least in NSW) - items in an open session can be refered > to the closed session if required at the perogative of counsellors/mayor Correct, but it's initially mentioned and minuted (but not discussed in any detail) at the open session where it is then referred to the closed session. > An item is considered to be 'confidential' where it meets one of the > requirements in Section 10A(2) of the Local Government Act. In which > case no discussion is usually entered into during an open session, > however an 'abstract title' could be mentioned in the council's business > paper and minutes (which are freely available to the public) The title is not even very abstract. Here's an example http://tinyurl.com/2f2a8 section 10. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) > The title is not even very abstract. Some are some arnt - I suppose its up to the individual council to what they put as the title. > "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You have two options. Either provide examples or admit you are full of sh.t. commercial-in-confidence, from the carrier side, nothing to do with council meetings council discussions with carriers about towers and permits arent held in a council chamber, fuckwit "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said >> "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > commercial-in-confidence, from the carrier side, nothing to do with > council meetings Then all you have to do is provide a link to the council minutes for these cases. Anything that a council forms a decision on (even if that decision is to have a closed session) is documented. > council discussions with carriers about towers and permits arent held in > a council chamber, fuckwit Yes they are, fuckwit, and for a very good reason. The councilors are only there to represent their residents. The residents have a legal right to view proceedings that relate to developments within their city/shire. The only time this does not apply is where personal information or commercially sensitive information is to be discussed, in which case it is moved to a closed session after first being raised in an open session where it is minuted. Put up or shut up. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) > >> >> Where? Please provide some examples. > >> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > cases. Anything that a council forms a decision on (even if that decision > is to have a closed session) is documented. Decisions arent commonly made in council meetings, dick. If you go to the council and ask for permission to piss in their fountain, they are going to tell you to rack off without holding a meeting. "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said > Decisions arent commonly made in council meetings, dick. Wrong. > If you go to the > council and ask for permission to piss in their fountain, they are going > to tell you to rack off without holding a meeting. Because that's already covered by other laws (and nothing to do with by-laws), fuckwit. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) > "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Because that's already covered by other laws (and nothing to do with > by-laws), fuckwit. crapshit. you seem to think that for a council to make a decision it needs to be in a council meeting and be minuted. crap. > crapshit. you seem to think that for a council to make a decision it needs > to be in a council meeting and be minuted. crap. I can just see it now...Jim and John from the shire are having a coffee at 11am. "Jim, Optus want to put up a tower on Smith St. What do you reckon?" "Yeah, why not!?" "Shouldn't we hold a meeting to ask the others and to have a record of the decision?" "Nah, no need!" Yeah, right. Minutes are taken for even the most pointless meetings. They can't make a decision about a mobile phone tower and not have minutes, especially since such decisions are often met with opposition from the public. Graham. >> crapshit. you seem to think that for a council to make a decision >> it needs to be in a council meeting and be minuted. crap. > I can just see it now...Jim and John from the shire are having a coffee > at 11am. "Jim, Optus want to put up a tower on Smith St. What do > you reckon?" "Yeah, why not!?" "Shouldn't we hold a meeting to > ask the others and to have a record of the decision?" "Nah, no need!" > Yeah, right. Minutes are taken for even the most pointless meetings. There doesnt need to be any meeting at all, just a written application and approval given etc. > They can't make a decision about a mobile > phone tower and not have minutes, Bullshit. > especially since such decisions are often > met with opposition from the public. Doesnt mean that there has to be a meeting at all. "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said >>> crapshit. you seem to think that for a council to make a decision >>> it needs to be in a council meeting and be minuted. crap. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > There doesnt need to be any meeting at all, > just a written application and approval given etc. Correct. >> They can't make a decision about a mobile >> phone tower and not have minutes, > > Bullshit. Correct. >> especially since such decisions are often >> met with opposition from the public. > > Doesnt mean that there has to be a meeting at all. Correct again, but if the approved plan is later disputed by residents and results in that approval being revoked it does result in a council meeting, where it is minuted. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said >> "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > crapshit. you seem to think that for a council to make a decision it > needs to be in a council meeting and be minuted. crap. In the cases you are talking about where planning approval is granted, then taken away that's exactly what happens. The initial approval can be given by an employee (as long as the proposed structure meets relevant planning laws) but if there is a public objection lodged that results in the planning approval being revoked (which is what you claimed happened) it is discussed at a council session were it is minuted. You still haven't provided any evidence to back up your claim that towers have been built without approval so I'll take your post to be the usual bullshit that pours from you. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) > "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > crapshit. you seem to think that for a council to make a decision it > > needs to be in a council meeting and be minuted. crap. > In the cases you are talking about where planning approval is granted, > then taken away that's exactly what happens. The initial approval can > be given by an employee (as long as the proposed structure meets > relevant planning laws) but if there is a public objection lodged that > results in the planning approval being revoked (which is what you claimed > happened) it is discussed at a council session were it is minuted. Not necessarily. "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said >> In the cases you are talking about where planning approval is granted, >> then taken away that's exactly what happens. The initial approval can [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Not necessarily. I can't think of a case where it's happened any differently. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) Kwyjibo <KwyjiboYourPanties@ozdebate.com> wrote in message news:Xns94DBD04301EE5ssss@130.133.1.4... > Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said >> Kwyjibo <KwyjiboYourPanties@ozdebate.com> wrote >>> In the cases you are talking about where planning approval >>> is granted, then taken away that's exactly what happens. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>> planning approval being revoked (which is what you claimed >>> happened) it is discussed at a council session were it is minuted. >> Not necessarily. > I can't think of a case where it's happened any differently. You wont be aware of the vast bulk of the cases, so that proves absolutely nothing. "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said > Kwyjibo <KwyjiboYourPanties@ozdebate.com> wrote in > message news:Xns94DBD04301EE5ssss@130.133.1.4... [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > You wont be aware of the vast bulk of the > cases, so that proves absolutely nothing. So do you have a link? Surely if residents were succesful in beating a large company such as Telstra or Optus it would at least make a story in the local papers. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > You wont be aware of the vast bulk of the > > cases, so that proves absolutely nothing. > So do you have a link? Nope, fraid not. > Surely if residents were succesful in beating a large company such > as Telstra or Optus it would at least make a story in the local papers. Sure, but thats an entirely separate issue to whether it actually gets to a council meeting. "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said >> Surely if residents were succesful in beating a large company such >> as Telstra or Optus it would at least make a story in the local papers. > > Sure, but thats an entirely separate issue to > whether it actually gets to a council meeting. The earlier argument is about whether or not a tower has been approved, built, then had approval revoked as Michael earlier claimed. I'll take his claim as bullshit. SignatureKwyj. "War is God's way of teaching Americans geography." -- Ambrose Bierce (Remove your panties to reply by email) > > "Michael" <michael@yahoo.com> said > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > stalled because council approval hasnt been gived, has been revoked, or is > under review. Names ? and out of the 10,000 + base stations how many of these would there be ? I said generally once the tower is built (pole stuck in the ground in this case, be better up your arse though) it's around 2-4 weeks. However in Flowerdale Victoria there was a tower put up in June 2003, equipment installed in July 2003, and was activated in April 2004. However, in this case they were waiting to install Kinglake to run the MWI > > > Yo All, the tower is built and the array is hanging from the sky, > > > its one big mutha... 35 meters high, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Hardly, varies wildly on other factors such as council approval Not a f.cking clue. The council approval would have been obtained before construction started, cretin. > > > Yo All, the tower is built and the array is hanging from the sky, > > > its one big mutha... 35 meters high, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Hardly, varies wildly on other factors such as council approval What an idiot you are dunny boy. > > > Yo All, the tower is built and the array is hanging from the sky, > > > its one big mutha... 35 meters high, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Hardly, varies wildly on other factors such as council approval Council approval is done well before they build the tower ??? > Yo All, the tower is built and the array is hanging from the sky, > its one big mutha... 35 meters high, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > got some good pix of the sky hook they used.. > Tim if U r interested in a couple of pix of the opposition lemme know.. Can someone host the pics ? > Gerry > > **************************************************************** Thanks to all who replied. J. Doe I posted small 320 x 240 pics to alt.binaries.pictures (originals are 300k+ each) if you want a look....or anyone else for that matter, taken from the safety of the local park, so as not to get in anyones way. SignatureGerry > Thanks to all who replied. > > J. Doe I posted small 320 x 240 pics to alt.binaries.pictures (originals are > 300k+ each) if you want a look....or anyone else for that matter, > > taken from the safety of the local park, so as not to get in anyones way. You sure it's just an Optus tower? Those other antennas look like long range Telstra or Vodafone antennas. There's no link dish either (that I can see). You might have a while to wait yet! Graham. G'day Graham, yep, it is Optus, they put the original application sign on the property fenceline months ago, and I was talking to the install contractors a couple of days ago, and they install for Optus Voda & Hutch, they were saying the large wire frame array (they thought it was receive only) but I guess as it is pretty remote to the north west and north they would be a form of High gain antenna.. I can only see cables to the south side small unit at present, they said they were building another tower at Mt Samson, (South of Dayboro) for those who dont know. and I guess they are dividing the time between both, so we will wait, and wait and w...... shame the pix look like crap when I reduced them.... the full size ones have good definition. I guess you get that eh. SignatureGerry > > Thanks to all who replied. > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > range Telstra or Vodafone antennas. There's no link dish either (that I > can see). You might have a while to wait yet! Yes it does appear to be Voda or Telstra long range antennas, but the tower looks to be an "optus tower" the comms hut will tell all > Graham. > Yo All, the tower is built and the array is hanging from the sky, > its one big mutha... 35 meters high, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > got some good pix of the sky hook they used.. > Tim if U r interested in a couple of pix of the opposition lemme know.. I presume you are talking to me ?? :-) I`m not bias agenst tower pics :-) I though Voda had coverage there anyway.. But been a while since i was up that way ;-) Tim SignatureTim Merrell *NEW* E-Mail: timm@mrvfone.com.au Webmaster / Editor Tim's Unofficial VodaFone Australia GSM Web Page *NEW ADDRESS* http://www.mrvfone.com.au Tim's Mini Sega System Tech Site http://www.mrvfone.com.au/sega/ Yes Tim I was, Voda has coverage but on the same site as Optus & Telstra (Wildhorse) which is a long way away, and then it hops around all over the place too.... therefore the calls drop out or you run around like a ckookless head trying to find the signal ;-) SignatureGerry > Yes Tim I was, > Voda has coverage but on the same site as Optus & Telstra (Wildhorse) which > is a long way away, and then it hops around all over the place too.... > therefore the calls drop out or you run around like a ckookless head trying > to find the signal ;-) LOL. A chookless head, or a headless chook? > LOL. A chookless head, or a headless chook? Probably both, LOL. SignatureGerry |
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