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Cheap Call Rate and also Making 15K USD in just a few weeks of time

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INVESTMENT - 23 Apr 2004 15:19 GMT
Actually I'm not a consultant of 1CellNet. I'm just a person which
just end my 18 months of contract with Telstra and now I'm free for
looking for a cheaper plan + no contract require also cheaper call
rate.

I did some research and here is my result in last month.
(I'm a really high usage mobile phone user due to my job needs also
higher end user can get a cheaper call rate and flag fall)

I found a good website that display all the plan and cost
http://www.phonechoice.com/

Under that list I found the cheapest call rate is 16 cents but with a
very expensive monthly plan for 18c but locking down with expensive
plan or dead lock with long terms of contract.

Then someone told me that I should join 3 Mobile plan with the call
cap for 99 dollars but it's expensive in the flag fall and the mobile
just like a stone.

Suddenly one of my friend introduce me some product.

for a call rate of about
7 cents per 30 secs from moblie to landline
7 cents per 30 secs for STD call
15 cents per 30 secs for mobile to mobile call

What i'm impress was the call cost only about 15 cents per 30 second
all hours and no plan need to be join also the good news is NO FLAG
FALL.

This is a great deal for people with family overseas, so they can call
home
for cheap rates.  Because our rates work on destination, meaning that
whatever the rate is for the country that you are calling will be the
rate
that you will pay, using your mobile or landline.  So you could call a
friend in the USA on their mobile or landline for only US 5c for
30sec, or a
family member overseas could you hear in Australia for just 7.5c AUD
for
30sec.

Other great features about 1CellNet include unlimited time to use your
call
credits and unlike most carriers, after the first 30 seconds, 1CellNet
only
charges in 6sec increments.
It can save you heaps off your home phone bill too.  If you use STD
calls
throughout the day on your home phone, you would also save by using
1CellNet
instead, making savings of about 50% when compared to Telstra homline
rates.
Even comparing to Telstra's economy time after 7PM, if you make the
call for
10mins or less, you would actually pay less if you use 1CellNet phone
time.

The other thing I need to tell you was I just made almost a $1000 in
no time coz of finding my frind to joining the plan just like I did.

If your interested in becoming a customer and saving money on your
phone
calls or becoming a 1cellnet consultant to earn some extra cash, you
can
join up at:

www.1cellnet.com/CalvinC

or contact me via:
email: sath13@hotmail.com
streetwise - 23 Apr 2004 15:36 GMT
yeah,  likely story,  piss off!

| Actually I'm not a consultant of 1CellNet. I'm just a person which
| just end my 18 months of contract with Telstra and now I'm free for
[quoted text clipped - 68 lines]
| or contact me via:
| email: sath13@hotmail.com
John Phillips - 23 Apr 2004 17:51 GMT
> Actually I'm not a consultant of 1CellNet. I'm just a person which
> just end my 18 months of contract with Telstra and now I'm free for
> looking for a cheaper plan + no contract require also cheaper call
> rate.

I had a look at the "calling instructions".

Not very well explained to say the least.

I remember some time ago "Satellite Cowboys" in Sydney (looking at their web
page they seem to be just Orange CDMA dealers now) had a deal whereby you
dialled a number here first on your mobile, which was transferred to a USA
exchange, then you dialled your wanted number with the international prefix
first.

Bit like the way the prepaid calling cards work.

Only trouble was that often Australian calls (which I had as preset numbers,
so no actual dialling needed) ended up in Indonesia (Indonesia is +62, Oz
+61).

Bye bye Satellite Cowboys!

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INVESTMENT - 24 Apr 2004 01:41 GMT
Give you More Clear Detail

http://www.geocities.com/newedition112/1CellGlobalEngPDFVers01.pdf

1. Write sms text message
2. Send it to Gateway
3. Wait for them to call you
4. Done.

Simple
Michael - 24 Apr 2004 05:52 GMT
> Give you More Clear Detail
>
> http://www.geocities.com/newedition112/1CellGlobalEngPDFVers01.pdf
>
> 1. Write sms text message

waste of time

> 2. Send it to Gateway

thus costing an sms

> 3. Wait for them to call you

if it ever happens

> 4. Done.

blargh
John Phillips - 24 Apr 2004 09:50 GMT
> 1. Write sms text message
> 2. Send it to Gateway
> 3. Wait for them to call you
> 4. Done.

What a pain to make a 'phone call!

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Michael - 24 Apr 2004 13:35 GMT
> > 1. Write sms text message
> > 2. Send it to Gateway
> > 3. Wait for them to call you
> > 4. Done.
>
> What a pain to make a 'phone call!

Sounds like the old days, almost like ringing a manual operator to book a
long distance call
INVESTMENT - 24 Apr 2004 21:31 GMT
> > On Saturday, April 24, 2004 at 10:41:00 Saturday, 24 April 2004 (where I
>  live), "INVESTMENT" wrote:
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> Sounds like the old days, almost like ringing a manual operator to book a
> long distance call

but look at the call rate.
you can get this information from http://www.phonechoice.com
i calculate for each 67 second per call the cheapest rate compare to
all network

SAME NETWORK
OFF PEAK Vodafone Starter Plan = 24c
PEAK Virgin Blue Ming Mong Pack = 53.5c

DIFFERENT NETWORK
OFF PEAK Vodafone Starter = 51c
PEAK AAPT PREPAY = 54.7c

MOBILE TO LAND
off peak VODAFONE Starter Plan = 47c
peak and off peak AAPT Prepay = 54.7c

Remember vodafone starter pack requires to buy a mobile and contracted
therefore AAPT is the cheapest compare to all due to no flagfall
charges

MOBILE TO MOBILE
1Cellnet 0.2640 USD(SHOW IN MY PHONE BILL) exchange rate of 0.74 = 35c
+ flag fall of 25c for SMS = 60c

MOBILE TO LAND LINE
1Cellnet 0.15c USD exchange of 0.74 = 0.22c + flag fall of 25c = 47c.

for sure the much longer you talk 1cellnet will be cheaper cos of the
after the first 30secs of 0.15AUD 6sec per block of 0.03USD. it's the
cheapest of all. To me i need to talk on the phone for more then 2 or
3 mins each time. but avg person just talk about a mins or two. if you
talk for a second or two and hangs up for sure 1cellnet is the most
expensive. it's really depends on ur usages like to be.

But what I did is join optus prepay or vodaphone prepay for minimal
amount for SMS for getting the benefits for same network discount,
free 60 SMS or Yes Time to do same network calling and to othernetork
and I just use 1cellnet specially for all landline call.

Even til this point i didn't talk about the benefits for STD and
international call yet.

I don't care if you guys want to join directly under 1cellnet.com
without referral but what you miss out is the gainning profit to pay
your phone bill when ur upper level buy a recharge credit to pay back
all ur phone cost.
you better read it yourself  
http://www.geocities.com/newedition112/1CellGlobalEngPDFVers01.pdf

Yep you are right like ringing a manual operator to book a call. It's
pain in the arse. took another 10 second to make a call and need to
type the damn message everytime you call. but hay don't have to pay
the damn 150 dollars phone bill why not.
Also it's a australia registered company with ABN number. If they
misleading go to fairtrading then.
John Phillips - 24 Apr 2004 22:37 GMT
> I don't care if you guys want to join directly under 1cellnet.com
> without referral but what you miss out is the gainning profit to pay
> your phone bill when ur upper level buy a recharge credit to pay back
> all ur phone cost.
> you better read it yourself  
> http://www.geocities.com/newedition112/1CellGlobalEngPDFVers01.pdf

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> Yep you are right like ringing a manual operator to book a call. It's
> pain in the arse. took another 10 second to make a call and need to
> type the damn message everytime you call.

So can you send your message to them as a template (previously stored in the
'phone) or do you need a separate message for each number you want; i.e. do
they dial for you, or they give you a USA line and then you dial?

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INVESTMENT - 25 Apr 2004 10:23 GMT
> > I don't care if you guys want to join directly under 1cellnet.com
> > without referral but what you miss out is the gainning profit to pay
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> 'phone) or do you need a separate message for each number you want; i.e. do
> they dial for you, or they give you a USA line and then you dial?

Yep Send them as a template
e.g. they got a online phonebook directory for you and you can store
all your number for you

so each time you dail to your friend such as Brad Pitt +1 123456789
so u store the phonenumber 1123456789 (without the plus) and put their
name in such as Brad Pitt or initial it to BP

so in ur sms template you type "C BP" then send to their gateway
afterwards in 10 second they will call you back and you just pick up
the phone. (Connection done)

If you know how's the thing work is just like calling a operator by
sms to ask them to make the connection for you.
John Phillips - 25 Apr 2004 11:26 GMT
> so in ur sms template you type "C BP" then send to their gateway
> afterwards in 10 second they will call you back and you just pick up
> the phone. (Connection done)

Does the dialling off then other number start as soon as you pick up your
phone?

What happens if the other number does not connect?

What happens if your phone is engaged when they call you back?

How do you pay for all of this?

What is the quality of the line like? (On some of the pre-paid cards I have
used very scratchy quality).

Is this service available to all countries from Oz?

If I am outside of Oz, how does it work i.e. do I pay Tel$tra to forward
their call to me overseas and thus pay big bikkies?

etc. etc.

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INVESTMENT - 25 Apr 2004 16:20 GMT
> > so in ur sms template you type "C BP" then send to their gateway
> > afterwards in 10 second they will call you back and you just pick up
> > the phone. (Connection done)
>
> Does the dialling off then other number start as soon as you pick up your
> phone?
YES

> What happens if the other number does not connect?
NO CALL MAKE

> What happens if your phone is engaged when they call you back?
NO CALL MAKE (CALL WAITING not included)

> How do you pay for all of this?
CREDIT CARD

> What is the quality of the line like? (On some of the pre-paid cards I have
> used very scratchy quality).
SAME AS NORMAL NETWORK NOTHING DIFFERENCE

> Is this service available to all countries from Oz?
YES ALL AROUND THE WORLD

> If I am outside of Oz, how does it work i.e. do I pay Tel$tra to forward
> their call to me overseas and thus pay big bikkies?

NOPE THEY PROVIDE YOU A GATEWAY NUMBER DEPENDS WHERE YOU ARE LOCATED
THEY GOT DIFFERENT GATEWAY FOR YOU BUT MY FRIEND TOLD ME THAT THERE IS
A UNIVERSAL NUMBER BUT I STILL CAN'T FIND IT WHERE IT SAID SO.

YOU CAN LIST ALL THE GATEWAY AROUND THE WORLD IN THIS WEBPAGE
https://www.1cellnet.com/emails/1cell-19-03-04.html
THIS STAGE CAN ONLY COVER HALF OF THE WORLD BUT BY THE ENO OF THE YEAR
CAN COVER THE ENTIRE WORLD.

there is more information in the http://www.1cellnet.com/CalvinC on
how to connect ur call and call rate

> etc. etc.
John Phillips - 28 Apr 2004 10:44 GMT
> YOU CAN LIST ALL THE GATEWAY AROUND THE WORLD IN THIS WEBPAGE
> https://www.1cellnet.com/emails/1cell-19-03-04.html
> THIS STAGE CAN ONLY COVER HALF OF THE WORLD BUT BY THE ENO OF THE YEAR
> CAN COVER THE ENTIRE WORLD.

Want to bet?

Countries with highly regulated State monopoly phone systems will not allow
this.

For instance, even in Thailand Voice over Internet is supposedly illegal.
(and that became possible some time ago - nothing new)

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Calvin - 28 Apr 2004 15:01 GMT
> > YOU CAN LIST ALL THE GATEWAY AROUND THE WORLD IN THIS WEBPAGE
> > https://www.1cellnet.com/emails/1cell-19-03-04.html
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> For instance, even in Thailand Voice over Internet is supposedly illegal.
> (and that became possible some time ago - nothing new)

Yep you are correct. For sure that this will be regulated since the gov are
making money out of the telecommunication license. But what the hack I'm
paying lower mobile phone cost already.
INVESTMENT - 25 Apr 2004 20:24 GMT
> > so in ur sms template you type "C BP" then send to their gateway
> > afterwards in 10 second they will call you back and you just pick up
> > the phone. (Connection done)
>
> Does the dialling off then other number start as soon as you pick up your
> phone?
100% YES

> What happens if the other number does not connect?
What do you mean by doesnt connect? you mean engage then no cost
if you type in the wrong number for sure they still charge you.
but i think (not 100%) will not charge when the call less then 3
second

> What happens if your phone is engaged when they call you back?
will not be happen because they will call you back within 5-10 second.
unless you drop your mobile phone but if you dont' pick it up then no
cost
also the other party will hang up the phone when no one answering
right?

> How do you pay for all of this?
You buy call credit through credit card on the website provided

> What is the quality of the line like? (On some of the pre-paid cards I have
> used very scratchy quality).
Just like 100% same as normal connection and provider given to you.
Also i tried the international call to SE asia to test the network

> Is this service available to all countries from Oz?
Yes all around the world hopefully within 1 year but it's already
support most of the country such as NZ, UK, US, Europe etc you better
read the webpage of
www.1cellnet.com/CalvinC
or
https://www.1cellnet.com/emails/1cell-19-03-04.html

> If I am outside of Oz, how does it work i.e. do I pay Tel$tra to forward
> their call to me overseas and thus pay big bikkies?
NOPE no cost to other provider at all. the only cost is the SMS
message.
but if you can get into the internet you can just use the call
connection through the website provide (even can save up the SMS
message cost) i think only limited to the aff. account only. Read the
support they put details on the differences on the account and service
provide.

> etc. etc.
Michael - 28 Apr 2004 02:56 GMT
> > > I don't care if you guys want to join directly under 1cellnet.com
> > > without referral but what you miss out is the gainning profit to pay
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> If you know how's the thing work is just like calling a operator by
> sms to ask them to make the connection for you.

We got rid of manual operator-assisted mobile dialling in the 1950's
INVESTMENT - 24 Apr 2004 05:24 GMT
> > Actually I'm not a consultant of 1CellNet. I'm just a person which
> > just end my 18 months of contract with Telstra and now I'm free for
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Bye bye Satellite Cowboys!

THis is how i work for mine.
join vodaphone prepay plan for sms message.
then join 1cellnet

therefore i don't have a contract to hlod me up and also i am having
the cheapest call rate even better then orange cdma
Michael - 24 Apr 2004 05:52 GMT
> Actually I'm not a consultant of 1CellNet.

So why is your referral URL at the end of the email, stupid turd?
Thirteen-Day-Old-Meat - 24 Apr 2004 06:01 GMT
> > Actually I'm not a consultant of 1CellNet.
>
> So why is your referral URL at the end of the email, stupid turd?

You seem to have a sick fascination with turds, dunny-boy.
Michael - 24 Apr 2004 13:35 GMT
> > > Actually I'm not a consultant of 1CellNet.
> >
> > So why is your referral URL at the end of the email, stupid turd?
>
> You seem to have a sick fascination with turds, dunny-boy.

Sort of subliminal, just read a post by Turd-caud previously, as Rod is fond
of calling him
 
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