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Cellular Phone Forum / Country Specific / Australian Group / May 2004Optus April coverage updates
April coverage updates out today, includes some upcoming goodies including Melbourne and now Sydney and Perth underground railways. Original: http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1004_23892-3_5461--View_205 ,00.html Full listing mirrored here: http://www.ausmobile.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=148&m ode=thread&order=0&thold=0 to avoid the ridiculously slow Optus website.  Signature--Jeremy Quirke http://www.ausmobile.com > April coverage updates out today, includes some upcoming goodies including > Melbourne and now Sydney and Perth underground railways. > > Original: http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1004_23892-3_5461--View_205 ,00.html > Full listing mirrored here: http://www.ausmobile.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=148&m ode=thread&order=0&thold=0 > to avoid the ridiculously slow Optus website. Cheers, the Optus site is not even loading tonight, probably 2 people trying to view it at once >April coverage updates out today, includes some upcoming goodies including >Melbourne and now Sydney and Perth underground railways. Railways are already covered... perhaps you shou;d've been a bit more specific and referred to the "tunnels".. the bits between the stations. > >April coverage updates out today, includes some upcoming goodies including > >Melbourne and now Sydney and Perth underground railways. > > Railways are already covered... perhaps you shou;d've been a bit more > specific and referred to the "tunnels".. the bits between the > stations. We already knew that though, everyone knows the stations are covered. >We already knew that though, everyone knows the stations are covered. Uhuh, tell that to a CDMA-only user and see what they say. > >We already knew that though, everyone knows the stations are covered. > > Uhuh, tell that to a CDMA-only user and see what they say. People use CDMA :P ? > > >We already knew that though, everyone knows the stations are covered. > > > > Uhuh, tell that to a CDMA-only user and see what they say. > > People use CDMA :P ? Yeah Optus resell it :P > >We already knew that though, everyone knows the stations are covered. > > Uhuh, tell that to a CDMA-only user and see what they say. Optus dont own a CDMA network, dickhead, thats why their coverage updates page is GSM only, duh >Optus dont own a CDMA network, dickhead, thats why their coverage updates >page is GSM only, duh Forget the subject line, you know all too well that it was a reference to coverage in general. Charlie Wong <willwasteyou@gmx.net> said >>Optus dont own a CDMA network, dickhead, thats why their coverage updates >>page is GSM only, duh > > Forget the subject line, you know all too well that it was a reference > to coverage in general. WTF are you on about? The whole thread is about Optus coverage. SignatureKwyj. (Remove your panties to reply by email) > >Optus dont own a CDMA network, dickhead, thats why their coverage updates > >page is GSM only, duh > > Forget the subject line, you know all too well that it was a reference > to coverage in general. No, you were just caught out being a stupid fish-breath. > >April coverage updates out today, includes some upcoming goodies including > >Melbourne and now Sydney and Perth underground railways. > > Railways are already covered... perhaps you shou;d've been a bit more > specific and referred to the "tunnels".. the bits between the > stations. hardly any goodies for melb. something like only 7 expansions were ACTUALLy completed in the last month, the "coming" list is a big longer > > >April coverage updates out today, includes some upcoming goodies > including [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > hardly any goodies for melb. something like only 7 expansions were ACTUALLy > completed in the last month, the "coming" list is a big longer Yes, but do you know how many sites are very close to be activated, alot have been built and just waiting to be "switched on", but yes agreed a very slow month with only 7 "swtiched on" The "coming" list is upto April 2005, so quite a while to wait for the ones that I want at Falls Creek and Mt Hotham :( they are due for early 2005 :( > > > >April coverage updates out today, includes some upcoming goodies > > including [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > have been built and just waiting to be "switched on", but yes agreed a very > slow month with only 7 "swtiched on" Big deal. I could post a list of 300 sites in the next 12 mths that are going to be turned on with Telstra, but its pointless if none of them are actually turned on at the moment! > > > > >April coverage updates out today, includes some upcoming goodies > > > including [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > going to be turned on with Telstra, but its pointless if none of them are > actually turned on at the moment! But I thought their coverage was so good anyway, so why do they need so many new sites ? I doubt they are putting up that many new towers > > > > > >April coverage updates out today, includes some upcoming goodies > including [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > going to be turned on with Telstra, but its pointless if none of them are > > actually turned on at the moment! They're probably all CDMA anyways... > But I thought their coverage was so good anyway, so why do they need so many > new sites ? Why, to increase their CDMA coverage of course :) > I doubt they are putting up that many new towers So do I - and I doubt many of them would be regional/rural sites that constitute new coverage footprints (ie not just increasing reception/call capcity in areas already covered). Jason <- Still waiting for telstra to revive the "coverage update" page or release new GSM coverage maps > > > > > > >April coverage updates out today, includes some upcoming goodies > > including [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > They're probably all CDMA anyways... Majority are, but its just over half, actually > > I doubt they are putting up that many new towers > > So do I - and I doubt many of them would be regional/rural sites that > constitute new coverage footprints (ie not just increasing > reception/call capcity in areas already covered). Most of the CDMA expansion *is* new coverage > Jason <- Still waiting for telstra to revive the "coverage update" > page or release new GSM coverage maps A new GSM map has been created (Issue 14?) and CDMA issue 5 is already created. Will be published sometime soon > > > I doubt they are putting up that many new towers > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Most of the CDMA expansion *is* new coverage Yeah sorry should've been clearer about that - i meant GSM. That's great for CDMA owners, but what about the other ~95% or so of mobile users? > > Jason <- Still waiting for telstra to revive the "coverage update" > > page or release new GSM coverage maps > > A new GSM map has been created (Issue 14?) and CDMA issue 5 is already > created. Will be published sometime soon I must admit i didn't go to the telstra until after posting that - but why have they done away with full coverage maps online - i couldn't find them - the only way i could find to get a map of SA for example was to lookup my suburb and keep zooming out to 1000kms. Couldn't see any planned GSM coverage. Must get a hold of the paper maps and have a look. Unless someone would be so kind as to tell me where the online versions are hidden? Jason > > > > I doubt they are putting up that many new towers > > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > great for CDMA owners, but what about the other ~95% or so of mobile > users? Telstra GSM has more GSM coverage than any other GSM network, you cant really do much better than that re: GSM, and still keep it economical to build. CDMA has twice the coverage as Telstra GSM > > > Jason <- Still waiting for telstra to revive the "coverage update" > > > page or release new GSM coverage maps [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I must admit i didn't go to the telstra until after posting that - but > why have they done away with full coverage maps online - i couldn't I didnt know they got rid of the old ones > find them - the only way i could find to get a map of SA for example > was to lookup my suburb and keep zooming out to 1000kms. Couldn't see > any planned GSM coverage. Must get a hold of the paper maps and have > a look. Yep yep > Telstra GSM has more GSM coverage than any other GSM network, you cant > really do much better than that re: GSM, and still keep it economical to > build. I would say Telstra's days of being the leading GSM carrier in Queensland are numbered, if they haven't already Optus will go zooming past quite soon. The amount of coverage they are deploying (especially in rural areas) is astounding up here, to add to the fact nobody has more GSM900 capacity in the Brisbane metropolitan area. Albinus. > > Telstra GSM has more GSM coverage than any other GSM network, you cant > > really do much better than that re: GSM, and still keep it economical to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > astounding up here, to add to the fact nobody has more GSM900 capacity in > the Brisbane metropolitan area. How have you measured the GSM900 capacity in Brisbane metro? What equipment have you used to make your comparison? > How have you measured the GSM900 capacity in Brisbane metro? What equipment > have you used to make your comparison? If you have three identical Nokia dual band phones with NetMon enabled, you will notice that Telstra has far more GSM1800 coverage in Brisbane than Optus - this is more than cancelled out by the fact Optus has more GSM900 sites, and more transceivers on those sites. In fact, the amount of Optus GSM1800 in QLD is sweet FA outside of the Brisbane and Gold Coast CBD's. A typical Telstra cell in Brisbane uses only 4 transceivers per sector, while most Optus sites use at least 8. Optus' network planning seems to be smarter as well, in many locations in Brisbane Optus GSM works fine in-building where there is limited or no Telstra GSM reception. The reverse hardly ever occurs. When I was with Telstra I was getting "Network Busy" messages every other day, I have only ever had the one with Optus (at 8:01PM - no surprise there). Vodafone... well their GSM900 capacity is lacking, no surprise given the smaller volume of calls on their network. Considering that 5110's are still quite popular in Brisbane, GSM900 capacity is still very important here. Albinus. > If you have three identical Nokia dual band phones with NetMon enabled How do you enable this? Signatureø thÆk · HßV pRBlMsí mRPH LvS WTH Mí > > If you have three identical Nokia dual band phones with NetMon enabled > > How do you enable this? Software and cable, although I've asked many people in this group on assistance to do this, no-one has had the equipment or smarts to do it, they have just heard of it. There's some money in it for you if you are in Melbourne and can do it > > How have you measured the GSM900 capacity in Brisbane metro? What > equipment [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > sites, and more transceivers on those sites. In fact, the amount of Optus > GSM1800 in QLD is sweet FA outside of the Brisbane and Gold Coast CBD's. Excellent work. Exactly what was asked for - technical data. However the fact that Optus has more GSM900 and less GSM1800 and Telstra is the other way around, is rather irrelevant for the user, unless they have a very old handset that doesnt do 1800. Would you agree with this? > However the fact that Optus has more GSM900 and less GSM1800 and Telstra is > the other way around, is rather irrelevant for the user, unless they have a > very old handset that doesnt do 1800. Read my post again - I stated that 5110's are still popular phones up here, hence the need for good GSM900 coverage. Hell - some people here keep forking out high rates to Telstra, renew their contract on a plan from 1995, and don't know they can get a new phone! (silly hicks) :) Other single band phones such as the Ericsson GA628 are still popular as well. The use of single band phones increases the further you get from Brisbane. Albinus. Albinus said.... > keep forking out high rates to Telstra, renew their contract on a plan > from 1995, and don't know they can get a new phone! (silly hicks) :) Actually, some of the older Telstra mobile plans are better value than what's available today. Certainly, the missus' plan, at $25 a month, has some good value features that I don't have with a later, $40 plan. > Other single band phones such as the Ericsson GA628 are still popular as I have one of these here in a box somewhere. Maybe I can flog it to someone on Ebay up there.... > Actually, some of the older Telstra mobile plans are better value than > what's available today. Certainly, the missus' plan, at $25 a month, has > some good value features that I don't have with a later, $40 plan. I'm aware of that - I was referring to the old plans which used to cost almost $2/min, so many people are still happy to pay that amount. Probably the best deals were when One.Tel was heavily discounting to get customers, all carriers were very competitive then. Albinus. > > Actually, some of the older Telstra mobile plans are better value than > > what's available today. Certainly, the missus' plan, at $25 a month, has [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the best deals were when One.Tel was heavily discounting to get customers, > all carriers were very competitive then. Telstra have never had a plan that costs anything like $2 / min Budget 10 even, was 57c / 30secs, 30c flagfall. Thats $1.14 a min > Telstra have never had a plan that costs anything like $2 / min Then why are so many people paying rates such as $1.50+ per minute? What were people paying for mobile calls in 1994/5/6? Albinus. > > Telstra have never had a plan that costs anything like $2 / min > > Then why are so many people paying rates such as $1.50+ per minute? What > were people paying for mobile calls in 1994/5/6? In MY day . . . When I started on Telstra on 10/4/96 I was on 020 which was 38c / 30 secs peak, 20c FF, 9.5c / 30 secs off pk, 5c FF. In the last few years especially, a lot of the $$$'s you pay goes to handset subsidies, so call rates havent changed that much, except for the low cost, $0 sim operations, such as iSIM, Dingo Blue, GSM Direct, Virgin etc etc Albinus said.... > Then why are so many people paying rates such as $1.50+ per minute? What > were people paying for mobile calls in 1994/5/6? f.cking heaps, as I recall. But back then, those prices that we paid are probably equivalent to 2 bux a minute in today's dollars.. > > However the fact that Optus has more GSM900 and less GSM1800 and Telstra > is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Read my post again - I stated that 5110's are still popular phones up here, > hence the need for good GSM900 coverage. Hell - some people here keep On the contrary. As the high majority of users have dual band phones, Telstra should not be trying to support 900 for 900's sakes. > forking out high rates to Telstra, renew their contract on a plan from 1995, > and don't know they can get a new phone! (silly hicks) :) Time to upgrade. Cant hold the rest of us back > Other single band phones such as the Ericsson GA628 are still popular as > well. The use of single band phones increases the further you get from > Brisbane. very doubtful \ > On the contrary. As the high majority of users have dual band phones, > Telstra should not be trying to support 900 for 900's sakes. *sighs* In Melbourne most people DO have dual band handsets, as is the case in Brisbane, but people with single band handsets make a much larger percentage here than down there. Especially considering most of the single-band handset users are Telstra customers, it would be in Telstra's best interests to keep supporting GSM900 (or inform those using 8-y.o. phones they can upgrade). > Time to upgrade. Cant hold the rest of us back Agreed - but many of these people are unaware that they can get a new handset if they renew their contract - if Telstra were a bit more proactive with their marketing (I know Optus are) then they may have a higher takeup of newer phones. > very doubtful Have you done much travelling around Queensland? Come back to me when you have - most of the rural hicks still use single band bricks. If you have an 8250 on your belt people in NQ are genuinely impressed, in Brisbane they ask where the camera is! Albinus. > > Time to upgrade. Cant hold the rest of us back > > Agreed - but many of these people are unaware that they can get a new > handset if they renew their contract - if Telstra were a bit more proactive Who doesnt ?! There would be very few of your 1995 connects who have never upgraded in 10 years! > with their marketing (I know Optus are) then they may have a higher takeup > of newer phones. Telstra have 49% market share for a reason, chump. They sell lots of new connects and upgrades > > very doubtful > > Have you done much travelling around Queensland? Come back to me when you > have - most of the rural hicks still use single band bricks. If you have an > 8250 on your belt people in NQ are genuinely impressed, in Brisbane they ask > where the camera is! > Who doesnt ?! Lots of people here - by the sounds of it bugger-all down south > There would be very few of your 1995 connects who have never upgraded in 10 > years! Depends on your definition of "very few". The amount of old bricks you see around Queensland is quite embarassing for the so called "Smart State". Tradesmen and farmers who don't use CDMA are particularly fond of them. > Telstra have 49% market share for a reason, chump. They sell lots of new > connects and upgrades They do sell lots of new connects and upgrades - all carriers do. It's just the size of the minority who don't upgrade is much higher up here. It only took me about 5 years to get my mother to stop using a Motorola d368. And AMPS didn't go without a fight in the hick state! Albinus. > > Who doesnt ?! > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > took me about 5 years to get my mother to stop using a Motorola d368. And > AMPS didn't go without a fight in the hick state! d368,, urgh I guess they still run around with Nok 2010's then? ;-) My very first phone :) > I guess they still run around with Nok 2010's then? ;-) My very first phone My RF Comms lecturer had one as his main phone strangely enough... but apart from that I haven't seen many 2010's recently. Albinus. > > I guess they still run around with Nok 2010's then? ;-) My very first > phone [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Albinus. I dont expect so, given that I bought mine new 8 years > I dont expect so, given that I bought mine new 8 years Up until about 2001 they were reasonably well represented up here, but since I haven't seen many at all. Wonder when the same will happen to 5110's? Albinus. > > I dont expect so, given that I bought mine new 8 years > > Up until about 2001 they were reasonably well represented up here, but since > I haven't seen many at all. Wonder when the same will happen to 5110's? Definately. Especially given that the 5110 was such a superb phone and was sold for a lot longer than the 2010 >> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote >>> I dont expect so, given that I bought mine new 8 years >> Up until about 2001 they were reasonably well represented up here, but >> since I haven't seen many at all. Wonder when the same will happen to 5110's? > Definately. Especially given that the 5110 was such a > superb phone and was sold for a lot longer than the 2010 Yeah, it will be interesting to watch how long it lasts. The only real downside is that its pretty bare on features, not even any phone memory at all and that can be a problem with so many operations only using the small 100 entry sims now. I stopped using it for anything more than a backup because I keep everything in the phone now, with lists faked up as dummy phone entrys with that handset and its just too limited and the physical cable connector is a pain compared with IR. Use the 6310i now. Much better for that stuff and thinner too. I dont care about the physical size otherwise, in fact I prefer a decent size for the bigger keypad. "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said >>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Yeah, it will be interesting to watch how long it lasts. I've still got my old 5110 as a backup. Most reliable and intuitive phone I've ever owned. > The only real downside is that its pretty bare on features, > not even any phone memory at all and that can be a problem [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > dummy phone entrys with that handset and its just too limited > and the physical cable connector is a pain compared with IR. BT kills IR :-) > Use the 6310i now. Much better for that stuff and thinner > too. I dont care about the physical size otherwise, in fact > I prefer a decent size for the bigger keypad. I agree with that. The only downside to my Siemens S55 is the tiny keys. It's just a tad smaller than what I would consider comfortable. SignatureKwyj. (Remove your panties to reply by email) Kwyjibo <KwyjiboYourPanties@ozdebate.com> wrote in message news:Xns94F8938D3DB20ssss@130.133.1.4... >> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote >>>> Michael <michael@yahoo.com> wrote > >>>> I dont expect so, given that I bought mine new 8 years > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > Yeah, it will be interesting to watch how long it lasts. > I've still got my old 5110 as a backup. Most > reliable and intuitive phone I've ever owned. Me too. The Alcatel One Touch View is also handy as a backup because it takes standard AA cells. Handy as a real emergency phone in the car etc. Hopeless user interface tho. >> The only real downside is that its pretty bare on features, >> not even any phone memory at all and that can be a problem >> with so many operations only using the small 100 entry sims now. >> I stopped using it for anything more than a backup because >> I keep everything in the phone now, with lists faked up as >> dummy phone entrys with that handset and its just too limited >> and the physical cable connector is a pain compared with IR. > BT kills IR :-) Nope, stupid ripoff. Its got that too. >> Use the 6310i now. Much better for that stuff and thinner >> too. I dont care about the physical size otherwise, in fact >> I prefer a decent size for the bigger keypad. > I agree with that. The only downside to my Siemens S55 is the tiny > keys. It's just a tad smaller than what I would consider comfortable. Yeah, and I havent got paws like a gorilla either. "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said > Kwyjibo <KwyjiboYourPanties@ozdebate.com> wrote in > message news:Xns94F8938D3DB20ssss@130.133.1.4... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > as a backup because it takes standard AA cells. > Handy as a real emergency phone in the car etc. Unless you've got no AA cells...... > Hopeless user interface tho. Yeah. Typical Alcatel. Even their exchange software was sh.t to use. >>> The only real downside is that its pretty bare on features, >>> not even any phone memory at all and that can be a problem [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Nope, stupid ripoff. Its got that too. I just like the idea of being able to sync the phone with the PC without even taking the phone of of my pocket. Don't have enough free hands when I'm downloading porn. >>> Use the 6310i now. Much better for that stuff and thinner >>> too. I dont care about the physical size otherwise, in fact [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yeah, and I havent got paws like a gorilla either. Just normal sized hands, numb from all that desparate w.nking?? SignatureKwyj. (Remove your panties to reply by email) > Yeah. Typical Alcatel. Even their exchange software was sh.t to use. Ditto their exchange hardware. Siemens' ASAMs seem to be performing far better than Alcatel's CMUXs ever did. Albinus. > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said > [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > > > > Yeah, and I havent got paws like a gorilla either. Youre thinking of Magilla instead > > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said > > [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > Youre thinking of Magilla instead Wrong. As always. > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> said > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > as a backup because it takes standard AA cells. > > Handy as a real emergency phone in the car etc. > Unless you've got no AA cells...... Anyone with a clue keeps a pack in the glovebox, stupid. No problem with self discharge like you get with the handset battery. >> Hopeless user interface tho. > Yeah. Typical Alcatel. Even their exchange software was sh.t to use. > >>> The only real downside is that its pretty bare on features, > >>> not even any phone memory at all and that can be a problem [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > Nope, stupid ripoff. Its got that too. > I just like the idea of being able to sync the phone with > the PC without even taking the phone of of my pocket. Sure, I'd certainly use it if it wasnt such a ripoff. > Don't have enough free hands when I'm downloading porn. Yeah, obviously essential in your case. >>>> Use the 6310i now. Much better for that stuff and thinner >>>> too. I dont care about the physical size otherwise, in fact >>>> I prefer a decent size for the bigger keypad. >>> I agree with that. The only downside to my Siemens S55 is the tiny >>> keys. It's just a tad smaller than what I would consider comfortable. >> Yeah, and I havent got paws like a gorilla either. > Just normal sized hands, numb from all that desparate w.nking?? You're the w.nker, child. > > Telstra GSM has more GSM coverage than any other GSM network, you cant > > really do much better than that re: GSM, and still keep it economical to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Albinus. Same situation in Victoria, particularly Melbourne. Optus are already the leading carrier here, in my extensive comparisons. > > > Telstra GSM has more GSM coverage than any other GSM network, you cant > > > really do much better than that re: GSM, and still keep it economical to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Same situation in Victoria, particularly Melbourne. Optus are already the > leading carrier here, in my extensive comparisons. In my extensive comparisons, I differ. Telstra is clearly superior. > > > > Telstra GSM has more GSM coverage than any other GSM network, you cant > > > > really do much better than that re: GSM, and still keep it economical [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > In my extensive comparisons, I differ. Telstra is clearly superior. And what is your extensive comparions ? 1998 data ? > > > > > Telstra GSM has more GSM coverage than any other GSM network, you > cant [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > And what is your extensive comparions ? 1998 data ? Extensive usage on both > > > > Telstra GSM has more GSM coverage than any other GSM network, you cant > > > > really do much better than that re: GSM, and still keep it economical [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > In my extensive comparisons, I differ. Telstra is clearly superior. and this from someone who cleans the dunnies. > > > > > >April coverage updates out today, includes some upcoming goodies > > > > including [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > But I thought their coverage was so good anyway, so why do they need so many > new sites ? Because Telstra constantly expand their coverage, both geographically and also in depth of coverage, and also add new base stations for capacity relief. > I doubt they are putting up that many new towers They always have, and always will The Optus maps are now also updated with coverage planned up to December 2004 & December 2005 Not yet available in large format, only in the "coverage locator" maps > April coverage updates out today, includes some upcoming goodies including > Melbourne and now Sydney and Perth underground railways. > > Original: http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1004_23892-3_5461--View_205 ,00.html > Full listing mirrored here: http://www.ausmobile.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=148&m ode=thread&order=0&thold=0 > to avoid the ridiculously slow Optus website. > The Optus maps are now also updated with coverage planned up to December > 2004 & December 2005 > > Not yet available in large format, only in the "coverage locator" maps Excellent. I wonder if they have my street in the locator. Ive only been living here for 18 months now > > The Optus maps are now also updated with coverage planned up to December > > 2004 & December 2005 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Excellent. I wonder if they have my street in the locator. Ive only been > living here for 18 months now They have all the new streets near me, i find the coverage maps to show better coverage than their actually is > > > The Optus maps are now also updated with coverage planned up to December > > > 2004 & December 2005 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > They have all the new streets near me, i find the coverage maps to show > better coverage than their actually is I had a look, I still don't exist :-) Maybe I dont have to pay the Optus bill then :-) > The Optus maps are now also updated with coverage planned up to December > 2004 & December 2005 > > Not yet available in large format, only in the "coverage locator" maps It is now - altho the legend hasn't been updated on every state's page, all the maps are updated right through to December 2005. (no updates coming for tassie, tho there's probably not much extra you could do down there - all the carriers have covered most of the island for some time) http://www.optus.com.au/Vign/ViewMgmt/display/0,2627,1038_34129-3_5461--View_354 ,00.html Jason > > The Optus maps are now also updated with coverage planned up to December > > 2004 & December 2005 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > could do down there - all the carriers have covered most of the island > for some time) Not at all. Telstra CDMA covers a large swatch of the island from Burnie to Queenstown. Also they cover in greater breadth, across the top to Smithton and slightly beyond > (no updates coming for tassie, tho there's probably not much extra you > could do down there - all the carriers have covered most of the island > for some time) You will find Telstra (both GSM and CDMA) actually have far greater geographical coverage in Tasmania - probably due to the fact Optus and Vodafone believe that it's uneconomical to deploy more base stations in a state where around 40% of the population is on welfare. Albinus. > > (no updates coming for tassie, tho there's probably not much extra you > > could do down there - all the carriers have covered most of the island [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Albinus. 40% ? Sheesh I know that some of the worst FreeTime congestion (old Telstra free call offer) was in Tasmania. > 40% ? Sheesh > I know that some of the worst FreeTime congestion (old Telstra free call > offer) was in Tasmania. That's according to Aurora Energy, the Tasmanian electricity retailer. Agreed on the figures - Optus especially was plagued with parasite time congestion in Tasmania. Albinus. > > 40% ? Sheesh > > I know that some of the worst FreeTime congestion (old Telstra free call > > offer) was in Tasmania. > > That's according to Aurora Energy, the Tasmanian electricity retailer. No, thats according to user experience. I think Gagebrook was pretty bad As a WEIRD co-incidence to this discussion, my very first Telstra number was recycled after disconnection and ended up with Aurora, which its been with since 1998 > Agreed on the figures - Optus especially was plagued with parasite time > congestion in Tasmania. Leeches > > (no updates coming for tassie, tho there's probably not much extra you > > could do down there - all the carriers have covered most of the island [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Albinus. <goes to telstra coverage map for hobart CBD and zooms out telstra tassie map to show whole island> OK, happy to admit when i'm wrong - comparing this (T, GSM) to the optus map you can really see a massive difference, especially Sth-West of burnie, and pretty much anything east of Launceston, and what looks like (altho might not be) little islands south east of hobart. But give Optus a chance - come December 2005, they'll only just be starting to catch up in Sth West WA, let alone the rest of that state - they've gotta finish doing the mainland before they can do tassie. But then again, if anyone saw last night's episode of Hot Property which featured tassie's cheap housing, they'd better hurry up!!! After that went to air in Melbourne, i'll bet tassie real estate agents have the phones running hot with rennovators & rat-race-escapees from melbourne. Jason > > > (no updates coming for tassie, tho there's probably not much extra you > > > could do down there - all the carriers have covered most of the island [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > <goes to telstra coverage map for hobart CBD and zooms out telstra > tassie map to show whole island> I went to this map to zoom out to show you how wrong you are :-) but the javascript would work on the zoo m out for some reason ... but I did post some comments on about how Telstra are much better across the top and down the west side > OK, happy to admit when i'm wrong - comparing this (T, GSM) to the > optus map you can really see a massive difference, especially Sth-West > of burnie, and pretty much anything east of Launceston, and what looks > like (altho might not be) little islands south east of hobart. Take a look at CDMA instead, it will knock your socks off > But give Optus a chance - come December 2005, they'll only just be Come December 2005 Telstra will have improved on their lead, so your comparison is really invalid. Especially with CDMA > starting to catch up in Sth West WA, let alone the rest of that state > - they've gotta finish doing the mainland before they can do tassie. Crapshit. You and I both know they dont do it "state-by-state". They expand everywhere its economical, no preference to one state over another > After that went to air in Melbourne, i'll bet tassie real estate > agents have the phones running hot with rennovators & > rat-race-escapees from melbourne. Hardly > Jason |
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